IDK, it seems "obvious" the other half of the cycle will be printed in MH2. I guess by doing it this way we get 6/10 now instead of just 5/10 and it serves as a warning shot to those owning horizon canopy that it will not hold it's current price long term as a reprint will be coming in a very few years.
IDK, it seems "obvious" the other half of the cycle will be printed in MH2. I guess by doing it this way we get 6/10 now instead of just 5/10 and it serves as a warning shot to those owning horizon canopy that it will not hold it's current price long term as a reprint will be coming in a very few years.
To me it seems more likely that the full 5 ally cycle (a reprint of the original and its four new ally brothers) is in a coming standard set, and mh2 will debut Burnwillows’ enemy sisters.
They never want a draft set to have an imbalance of a land cycle. To only put 4 in a set would be that. And if mh is defined as having no modern reprints other than basic land they wont do all 5 in an mh set.
I'll never understand why they will never print the full 10-card cycle of duels in one set.
Because having constructed fixer lands show up in the rare slot of 20/121 draft and sealed packs is unpleasant. “Yay, I helped my wallet; but I’ll lose today to people who opened things that’ll directly help them wintoday while I cracked incremental convenience”
Quite frankly, if 1 out of every 6 packs contained a "Canopy Land", I'd pony up for an entire case.
IDK, it seems "obvious" the other half of the cycle will be printed in MH2. I guess by doing it this way we get 6/10 now instead of just 5/10 and it serves as a warning shot to those owning horizon canopy that it will not hold it's current price long term as a reprint will be coming in a very few years.
Pretty sure the "obvious" choice for MH2 is going to be a Grove of the Burnwillows cycle, and not a rehash of the same thing MH1 is doing. And even that would be ignoring a dozen other possibilities that all might have credence (imagine an Urborg cycle? )
This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
I think this is huge. Notably, I like the boost it gives to burn. Not only will these cards see play in tons of aggro and combo decks in some number, like storm (which immediately replaces shivan reef in the fetchless versions), infect and gb elves, but that additional damage from manabases helps burn. Oh, and of course burn gets what I believe to be the only type of card it really needed: help when it runs out of gas that doesn't take away from its redundancy.
I think there is a typo. They all say "Pay 1 life" instead of "Pay $10".
I wish that pay $10 was the case. Horizion canopy is currently $65 was printed in a standard set and reprinted in the past 12 or so months, and is in one of the weaker colour combinations. I'm terrified of what the U/R one could end up costing.
Well, it shouldn't surprise you. Modern cannot handle no-drawback duals and anyone with ABUR duals would be pissed off for basically breaking the reserved list.
I think this is huge. Notably, I like the boost it gives to burn. Not only will these cards see play in tons of aggro and combo decks in some number, like storm (which immediately replaces shivan reef in the fetchless versions), infect and gb elves, but that additional damage from manabases helps burn. Oh, and of course burn gets what I believe to be the only type of card it really needed: help when it runs out of gas that doesn't take away from its redundancy.
This is a fantastic point, on Burn. It lets that deck get an extra tick of power in their mid-late game, instead of just drawing into a Sacred Foundry or Arid Mesa. Even other low-to-the-ground strategies will love these. Just a great cycle to have in print.
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I think there is a typo. They all say "Pay 1 life" instead of "Pay $10".
I wish that pay $10 was the case. Horizion canopy is currently $65 was printed in a standard set and reprinted in the past 12 or so months, and is in one of the weaker colour combinations. I'm terrified of what the U/R one could end up costing.
Snow duals could be uncommon-level ETB tapped lands, allied colors, no biggie.
Horizon Canopy isn't really good for the "it was in a standard set" argument. Time Spiral block cards in general are rare, because on the heels of the absolutely broken and miserable eras that were Mirrodin and Kamigawa the game was at one of its lowest points in the twenty-first century. There was a fraction of the print run compared to an Ixalan or anything really from the past five years.
I thought I was all set with all the allied/enemy Fetchlands and Shocklands, didn’t think I needed anything more, with a five color Modern casual deck I had lined up to build. These lands actually take me back to the drawing board.
I'll never understand why they will never print the full 10-card cycle of duels in one set.
That being said, my favorite color pairs are here, so I am content.
Because lands hold a lot of value and boxes have to line up the EV with the cost so they'd not want to give away so much value. Imagine a set of all 10 fetches, all 10 shocks etc, that's just crazy town. Also lands are nice for value but do nothing for drafting. Taking up 20% or so of the rare slots with a land limits their space for other stuff.
I assume these lands are going to see heavy modern play and be pretty pricey. I would imagine for example burn swaps out the 4 inspiring vantages for 4 of these new ones. The 1 life lost is surely irrelevant vs being able to swap it for a card later on. All those unfair decks running botanical sanctum (whir prison, lantern, amulet titan, neoform) can swap out for that waterlogged one. Phoenix probably wants some of that izzet one, maybe GDS as well (1 life every turn vs 2 life shocking once might be worth it to help lower life and also cycle later). Yeah the more I think about this the more I can see these going everywhere. I'm just glad we didn't get a RG one to make dredge even better.
These are cool though, it'll be interesting to see how other color combinations start fitting these into their lists.
If you meant enemy colored snow lands that etB tapped, the ally ones were uncommon in Coldsnap, so could be an uncommon cycle here.
If you were talking about Snow-Taiga duals, those are close enough to violating the reserved list that they won't happen, based on WotC's stance on other cards.
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To me it seems more likely that the full 5 ally cycle (a reprint of the original and its four new ally brothers) is in a coming standard set, and mh2 will debut Burnwillows’ enemy sisters.
They never want a draft set to have an imbalance of a land cycle. To only put 4 in a set would be that. And if mh is defined as having no modern reprints other than basic land they wont do all 5 in an mh set.
Pretty sure the "obvious" choice for MH2 is going to be a Grove of the Burnwillows cycle, and not a rehash of the same thing MH1 is doing. And even that would be ignoring a dozen other possibilities that all might have credence (imagine an Urborg cycle? )
not really the iceage painlands had there use in Eldrazi decks as you could pay colorless, but otherwise these are better.
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Well, it shouldn't surprise you. Modern cannot handle no-drawback duals and anyone with ABUR duals would be pissed off for basically breaking the reserved list.
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This is a fantastic point, on Burn. It lets that deck get an extra tick of power in their mid-late game, instead of just drawing into a Sacred Foundry or Arid Mesa. Even other low-to-the-ground strategies will love these. Just a great cycle to have in print.
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Canopy was printed in a Masters set.
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UW Miracle Control
Me as well Horizon lands just makes so much sense...
However that really rules out enemy colored Snow duals.
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Horizon Canopy isn't really good for the "it was in a standard set" argument. Time Spiral block cards in general are rare, because on the heels of the absolutely broken and miserable eras that were Mirrodin and Kamigawa the game was at one of its lowest points in the twenty-first century. There was a fraction of the print run compared to an Ixalan or anything really from the past five years.
The uncommon slot could still hold the enemy snow taplands.
Because lands hold a lot of value and boxes have to line up the EV with the cost so they'd not want to give away so much value. Imagine a set of all 10 fetches, all 10 shocks etc, that's just crazy town. Also lands are nice for value but do nothing for drafting. Taking up 20% or so of the rare slots with a land limits their space for other stuff.
I assume these lands are going to see heavy modern play and be pretty pricey. I would imagine for example burn swaps out the 4 inspiring vantages for 4 of these new ones. The 1 life lost is surely irrelevant vs being able to swap it for a card later on. All those unfair decks running botanical sanctum (whir prison, lantern, amulet titan, neoform) can swap out for that waterlogged one. Phoenix probably wants some of that izzet one, maybe GDS as well (1 life every turn vs 2 life shocking once might be worth it to help lower life and also cycle later). Yeah the more I think about this the more I can see these going everywhere. I'm just glad we didn't get a RG one to make dredge even better.
If you meant enemy colored snow lands that etB tapped, the ally ones were uncommon in Coldsnap, so could be an uncommon cycle here.
If you were talking about Snow-Taiga duals, those are close enough to violating the reserved list that they won't happen, based on WotC's stance on other cards.