I hope they do. We've been trying it in our playgroup so far and it's much better to use than the current mulligan rules. Then again we don't have cards to take too much advantage of this like Grenzo, etc.
I hope they do. We've been trying it in our playgroup so far and it's much better to use than the current mulligan rules. Then again we don't have cards to take too much advantage of this like Grenzo, etc.
My group has been using it as well. I like it more than the current mulligan system.
I hope they do. We've been trying it in our playgroup so far and it's much better to use than the current mulligan rules. Then again we don't have cards to take too much advantage of this like Grenzo, etc.
Grenzo's my worry. I luv Grenzo. I don't wanna see him banned because of a mulligan change.
I hope they do. We've been trying it in our playgroup so far and it's much better to use than the current mulligan rules. Then again we don't have cards to take too much advantage of this like Grenzo, etc.
Grenzo's my worry. I luv Grenzo. I don't wanna see him banned because of a mulligan change.
The mulligan basically lets you seed one or two cards onto the bottom of your library at the cost of starting with 5 or 6 cards in hand. It is a good effect but it is not like Grenzo decks were not going to start manipulating the bottom of the decks from the word go anyway. It is a buff, for sure, but I do not think it will make Grenzo ban worthy.
If Grenzo or some unknown future card that cares about what’s on the bottom of a player’s library warps the game too much, the simplest solution is for them to change the mulligan rule so players shuffle their cards away rather than tucking once they decide to keep their hand.
If Grenzo or some unknown future card that cares about what’s on the bottom of a player’s library warps the game too much, the simplest solution is for them to change the mulligan rule so players shuffle their cards away rather than tucking once they decide to keep their hand.
Or just ban the offending card in the format it is warping
If Grenzo or some unknown future card that cares about what’s on the bottom of a player’s library warps the game too much, the simplest solution is for them to change the mulligan rule so players shuffle their cards away rather than tucking once they decide to keep their hand.
Or just ban the offending card in the format it is warping
Well lets put fire in the ban hammer, there are other 3 formats outside of commander with plent of silly combos this new rule allows to be more consistent
If Grenzo or some unknown future card that cares about what’s on the bottom of a player’s library warps the game too much, the simplest solution is for them to change the mulligan rule so players shuffle their cards away rather than tucking once they decide to keep their hand.
Or just ban the offending card in the format it is warping
If you have to ban cards because of a mulligan rule, it's not the cards that are broken.
Loved the trial on MTGO and have been playing London Mulligan casually as well. Can't wait.
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The mulligan is great for limited to find at least the needed 3 lands to get anything going.
Scry mulligan is stupid for that, as you have to keep a hand with 1 land just to "hopefully" hit something with the scry, and if you dont you are screwd.
So for limited, its a total plus, good for everyone and nobody in their right mind would mulligan a good hand, unless you have a bomb that is so much better than anything else and cheap to cast too (busted crap like Pack Rat, which are insanely stupid for limited anyway).
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Standard its pretty fine too, nothing really depends on it and the decks are reasonable slow that they really just need to hit lands if they mulligan.
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Modern / Legacy / Vintage the mulligan is completely busted, simply for the existence of INSANE hate cards to mulligan to, Leylines that depend on being in the starting hand, putting the big creature for your Oath of Druids / Tinker away and all the kind of stuff.
So its almost guaranteed they will ban some cards with that Mulligan in these formats and they are willing to do that (as they can just print some replacement cards with similar effects in case of the Leylines etc.).
WotC cares most for Standard and Limited, to nobodies surprise.
My LGS has been running events using the London Mulligan (apparently Wizards sent out an email telling LGS to use it before the "official release" date). I've only tried it in Standard so far, but I will say even in the few games I played it made a big difference. I play a Feather deck, which is a high mulligan deck for standard, and mulliganing to six or five cards just felt so much better. I know for a fact I won one game on a mulligan to six solely because I could see seven cards instead of six (the seventh card was a land which made the hand an auto-keep instead of an auto-mulligan). While not overpowered in standard I do feel a lot better playing high-mulligan decks and mulliganing more aggressively. I am pretty sure that the London mulligan probably added a few percentage points to the Feather deck in every match-up.
I am sort of afraid to go to my LGS's modern tournaments now though since it was already between 50%-66% Tron (depending on the night) before the London Mulligan. And a few of the players there are die-hard Tron players (one has a foiled out Tron deck with masterpieces and everything), so they know how to play the deck inside and out (and were already aggressive mulliganers).
The London Mulligan rule is being implemented with the arrival of Core Set 2020 in July
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My group has been using it as well. I like it more than the current mulligan system.
Grenzo's my worry. I luv Grenzo. I don't wanna see him banned because of a mulligan change.
The mulligan basically lets you seed one or two cards onto the bottom of your library at the cost of starting with 5 or 6 cards in hand. It is a good effect but it is not like Grenzo decks were not going to start manipulating the bottom of the decks from the word go anyway. It is a buff, for sure, but I do not think it will make Grenzo ban worthy.
Or just ban the offending card in the format it is warping
Well lets put fire in the ban hammer, there are other 3 formats outside of commander with plent of silly combos this new rule allows to be more consistent
If you have to ban cards because of a mulligan rule, it's not the cards that are broken.
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Other formats exist outside of those? News to me. Anyway, i playtested the new mull on mtgo and i hated it. Much prefer the scry.
Scry mulligan is stupid for that, as you have to keep a hand with 1 land just to "hopefully" hit something with the scry, and if you dont you are screwd.
So for limited, its a total plus, good for everyone and nobody in their right mind would mulligan a good hand, unless you have a bomb that is so much better than anything else and cheap to cast too (busted crap like Pack Rat, which are insanely stupid for limited anyway).
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Standard its pretty fine too, nothing really depends on it and the decks are reasonable slow that they really just need to hit lands if they mulligan.
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Modern / Legacy / Vintage the mulligan is completely busted, simply for the existence of INSANE hate cards to mulligan to, Leylines that depend on being in the starting hand, putting the big creature for your Oath of Druids / Tinker away and all the kind of stuff.
So its almost guaranteed they will ban some cards with that Mulligan in these formats and they are willing to do that (as they can just print some replacement cards with similar effects in case of the Leylines etc.).
WotC cares most for Standard and Limited, to nobodies surprise.
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Commander committee is allowing the London mulligan
And it will join the party with the other formats of when it hits
(When core 2020 hits)
I am sort of afraid to go to my LGS's modern tournaments now though since it was already between 50%-66% Tron (depending on the night) before the London Mulligan. And a few of the players there are die-hard Tron players (one has a foiled out Tron deck with masterpieces and everything), so they know how to play the deck inside and out (and were already aggressive mulliganers).