Hey! They figured out better formatting than "Add RRRRRRR" - I swear it was always a pain counting out individual symbols on stuff like Geosurge and Aethertorch Renegade.
4 Boros Signet
4 Azorius Signet
4 Izzet Signet
3 Gruul Signet
1 Spreading Seas
2 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Boros Garrison
4 Ancestral Vision
1 Remand
4 Rune Snag
4 Force of Negation
2 Detention Sphere
2 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
3 Serum Visions
3 Ghost Quarter
4 Irencrag Feat
3 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
2 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
If Amulet Bloom could work with those kinds of 1-to-1 dependencies, needing them EARLIER, this shell could also work. You get annihilator or card draw instead of multispam but that's pretty much scary in an over the top way that you get to anti-Tron while setting it up.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Hmmm can you still cast the one more if you copy this spell somehow?
Because that’s massive mana if so that can be huge
I say dragon storm is the best thing to do with it
My gut says yes, copies of this spell work fine. The one spell limitation doesn't take affect until the spell resolves, and by time the first(last?) copy resolves all the other copies are already on the stack, you've already cast them, so they shouldn't count against your 1 more spell.
First Dragon Storm-Grab Lathliss, Dragon Queen
Second Dragon Storm-Grab Scourge of Valkas, both Scourge and lathliss Trigger, put lathliss trigger second. 3 dmg from scouge.
Third Dragon Storm- Grab Scourge, token enters first again, 2 scourge triggers 5 dmg each. Total 17 damage so far.
This version needs more than 3 storm counters to win.
Scourge + Scourge + Bogardan Hellkite is 21 damage with 3 storm (without combat phase).
Bogardan Hellkite+ Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund is 17 dmg with 2 storm (and with 3 storm is gg).
Also Rite of Flame and Gitaxian probe are banned in modern and probe is banned in Legacy and even restricted in Vintage.
If you don't care about what format this deck is legal to play with, you can add 4 Lotus Petal for extra speed.
Could maybe use this in standard to power out captive audience on turn 5... not that great. On the other hand this combos with sundering stroke pretty neatly, basically a 2 for 3 on turn 4 (or kill 2 things and send 7 at your Opponent). Can also maybe power out a Colossus Hammer equip turn 5 or even earlier if you have a mana dork or a second ritual in hand.
Hmmm can you still cast the one more if you copy this spell somehow?
Because that’s massive mana if so that can be huge
I say dragon storm is the best thing to do with it
My gut says yes, copies of this spell work fine. The one spell limitation doesn't take affect until the spell resolves, and by time the first(last?) copy resolves all the other copies are already on the stack, you've already cast them, so they shouldn't count against your 1 more spell.
Copy isn't cast so there's just no rules interaction at all
In all seriousness tho, they don't have to all have different names or anything. Can't we just do it with 4x Bogardan Hellkite like we used to? Like yes your first point is great as a lethal combination with no storm count leading up to the Feat, but in practice I think a deck with Dragonstorm as its win condition won't ever have to worry about getting something like Dromoka involved.
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Spoiler EditorSorry folks, no Infinite Bladeworks-esque Equipment shenanigans here. So what can you do with an extra RRR and one spell left for the turn?
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Nope, because Finale requires you to cast the spell it targets. Likewise, Rule of Law also stops the card from working.
This card is probably going to see standard play, if only because a turn 4 Drakuseth, Maw of Flames is a terrifying prospect.
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4 Boros Signet
4 Azorius Signet
4 Izzet Signet
3 Gruul Signet
1 Spreading Seas
2 Izzet Boilerworks
1 Boros Garrison
4 Ancestral Vision
1 Remand
4 Rune Snag
4 Force of Negation
2 Detention Sphere
2 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
3 Serum Visions
3 Ghost Quarter
4 Irencrag Feat
3 Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
2 Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger
If Amulet Bloom could work with those kinds of 1-to-1 dependencies, needing them EARLIER, this shell could also work. You get annihilator or card draw instead of multispam but that's pretty much scary in an over the top way that you get to anti-Tron while setting it up.
Electrodominance it is then.
edit: Oh dang that one says cast too. bring back banefire
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Because that’s massive mana if so that can be huge
I say dragon storm is the best thing to do with it
Add Manamorphose for card draw and higher storm count. Also add Street Wraith and Gitaxian Probe for free card draw.
1 Lathliss, Dragon Queen
4 Scourge of Valkas
Rituals
4 Rite of Flame
4 Manamorphose
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Seething Song
4 Irencrag Feat
4 Dragonstorm
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Street Wraith
Land
23 Mountain
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Hmm...Simian Spirit Guide?
1 Lathliss, Dragon Queen
4 Scourge of Valkas
Rituals
4 Rite of Flame
4 Simian Spirit Guide
4 Manamorphose
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Seething Song
4 Irencrag Feat
4 Dragonstorm
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Street Wraith
Land
19 Mountain
Really, the deck doesn't need more than one Scourge to end the game, so long as you have Lathliss and at least one other Dragon in your deck.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
My gut says yes, copies of this spell work fine. The one spell limitation doesn't take affect until the spell resolves, and by time the first(last?) copy resolves all the other copies are already on the stack, you've already cast them, so they shouldn't count against your 1 more spell.
First Dragon Storm-Grab Lathliss, Dragon Queen
Second Dragon Storm-Grab Scourge of Valkas, both Scourge and lathliss Trigger, put lathliss trigger second. 3 dmg from scouge.
Third Dragon Storm- Grab Scourge, token enters first again, 2 scourge triggers 5 dmg each. Total 17 damage so far.
This version needs more than 3 storm counters to win.
Scourge + Scourge + Bogardan Hellkite is 21 damage with 3 storm (without combat phase).
Bogardan Hellkite+ Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund is 17 dmg with 2 storm (and with 3 storm is gg).
Also Rite of Flame and Gitaxian probe are banned in modern and probe is banned in Legacy and even restricted in Vintage.
If you don't care about what format this deck is legal to play with, you can add 4 Lotus Petal for extra speed.
Copy isn't cast so there's just no rules interaction at all
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In all seriousness tho, they don't have to all have different names or anything. Can't we just do it with 4x Bogardan Hellkite like we used to? Like yes your first point is great as a lethal combination with no storm count leading up to the Feat, but in practice I think a deck with Dragonstorm as its win condition won't ever have to worry about getting something like Dromoka involved.