Because WotC has to print chaff/filler cards to flush out a set.
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Hey, this is a Golem with a decent-ish body that curves into Master Splicer, so I guess at least one person building Golem Tribal is happy about this, right...?
Because WotC has to print chaff/filler cards to flush out a set.
The only way that could possibly work is if it were base 0/0, which is much less flexible.
I believe he means it starts as a base 2/2 THEN gets 3 +1/+1 counters. Which still wouldn't be all that powerful, even at common. As the card stands, its chaff for 99% of constructed decks.
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Because WotC has to print chaff/filler cards to flush out a set.
The only way that could possibly work is if it were base 0/0, which is much less flexible.
I believe he means it starts as a base 2/2 THEN gets 3 +1/+1 counters. Which still wouldn't be all that powerful, even at common. As the card stands, its chaff for 99% of constructed decks.
You're asking for a colorless 5/5 for 3. Good luck getting that at common.
Because WotC has to print chaff/filler cards to flush out a set.
The only way that could possibly work is if it were base 0/0, which is much less flexible.
I believe he means it starts as a base 2/2 THEN gets 3 +1/+1 counters. Which still wouldn't be all that powerful, even at common. As the card stands, its chaff for 99% of constructed decks.
You're asking for a colorless 5/5 for 3. Good luck getting that at common.
You can get a 5/5 creature for one mana at common. Gurmag Angler
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Because WotC has to print chaff/filler cards to flush out a set.
The only way that could possibly work is if it were base 0/0, which is much less flexible.
I believe he means it starts as a base 2/2 THEN gets 3 +1/+1 counters. Which still wouldn't be all that powerful, even at common. As the card stands, its chaff for 99% of constructed decks.
You're asking for a colorless 5/5 for 3. Good luck getting that at common.
You can get a 5/5 creature for one mana at common. Gurmag Angler
The delve on that was damn near prohibitive in limited though, and it was B, NOT 1, which is a huge difference
Because WotC has to print chaff/filler cards to flush out a set.
The only way that could possibly work is if it were base 0/0, which is much less flexible.
I believe he means it starts as a base 2/2 THEN gets 3 +1/+1 counters. Which still wouldn't be all that powerful, even at common. As the card stands, its chaff for 99% of constructed decks.
You're asking for a colorless 5/5 for 3. Good luck getting that at common.
You can get a 5/5 creature for one mana at common. Gurmag Angler
Sure, let's ignore the fact that you still have to delve for 6 and each delve makes the next one harder 5/5 for CCC at common will not happen anytime soon.
With that said, I think a 3/3 is not really a good payoff for going mono-color. But I guess either the 2/3 or 3/2 would already be too much for common. Maybe they should have thrown some trinket text or a weaker keyword like vigilance ? 3/3 Vigilance looks like a fair payoff at common and 3 2/2 vigilance still is pretty bad.
The only way that could possibly work is if it were base 0/0, which is much less flexible.
I believe he means it starts as a base 2/2 THEN gets 3 +1/+1 counters. Which still wouldn't be all that powerful, even at common. As the card stands, its chaff for 99% of constructed decks.
You're asking for a colorless 5/5 for 3. Good luck getting that at common.
You can get a 5/5 creature for one mana at common. Gurmag Angler
Sure, let's ignore the fact that you still have to delve for 6 and each delve makes the next one harder 5/5 for CCC at common will not happen anytime soon.
With that said, I think a 3/3 is not really a good payoff for going mono-color. But I guess either the 2/3 or 3/2 would already be too much for common. Maybe they should have thrown some trinket text or a weaker keyword like vigilance ? 3/3 Vigilance looks like a fair payoff at common and 3 2/2 vigilance still is pretty bad.
This feels intentionally mediocre so it will go late and only get picked up by that person struggling to draft mono color.
In monoblue this actually feels above rate (and probably also have cards that care about controlling artifacts).
You never want a Gray Ogre. And a Hill Giant or Battle Hurda are regularly surpassed these days. At that point, you really need a 3/3 to matter vs your opponent's creatures in games 2 and 3.
The delve on that was damn near prohibitive in limited though, and it was B, NOT 1, which is a huge difference
When did I ever say for limited?
Read my posts, I said for constructed. (Post #9 of the thread, last line)
Its draft chaff, I couldn't care less about limited.
Sure, let's ignore the fact that you still have to delve for 6 and each delve makes the next one harder Rolleyes 5/5 for CCC at common will not happen anytime soon.
You are forgetting Pauper is now a sanctioned & supported format. It will happen sooner than you think. Don't settle for crap commons, it lets WotC off the hook.
Playing since 1994: Currently MAGS (HomeBrew),Standard & Pauper (Pioneer and Modern are degenerate trash formats)
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
You are forgetting Pauper is now a sanctioned & supported format. It will happen sooner than you think. Don't settle for crap commons, it lets WotC off the hook.
Pauper being a sanctioned format does not mean every single common will be designed with that format in mind. Commons are designed with limited in mind as well as being filler cards for kitchen table. If all commons are amazing it's unlikely that acquiring a few extra cards will improve your deck.
Again, I find it strange that a payoff common is the place they decided to go safe but them I had not considered blue/white in general has artifacts matters theme. Making this generally too good would hurt that archetype.
MaRo said drafting monocolor is possible in this format, so this is an above rate 3-drop for non green decks. That's more than enough for a common.
And specifically, it's a card that's intentionally unplayable anywhere else so that those mono-color drafters don't have to struggle to find cards to fill their decks out.
The design is well crafted to solve that problem.
When you realize this card exists for that reason alone, it feels good to let go of the anxious feelings that it feels mediocre in other settings.
MaRo said drafting monocolor is possible in this format, so this is an above rate 3-drop for non green decks. That's more than enough for a common.
And specifically, it's a card that's intentionally unplayable anywhere else so that those mono-color drafters don't have to struggle to find cards to fill their decks out.
The design is well crafted to solve that problem.
When you realize this card exists for that reason alone, it feels good to let go of the anxious feelings that it feels mediocre in other settings.
Good point. The more I think about it, the more I realize that this is a very good design. Multicolor decks won't care about this. At the same time though, any monocolor deck will happily pick this up, sometimes even after wheeling it.
Cards which move up and down in value like this are great for the depth and replayability of a limited format.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
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Why couldn’t it be three +1\+1 counters
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Because WotC has to print chaff/filler cards to flush out a set.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
The only way that could possibly work is if it were base 0/0, which is much less flexible.
I believe he means it starts as a base 2/2 THEN gets 3 +1/+1 counters. Which still wouldn't be all that powerful, even at common. As the card stands, its chaff for 99% of constructed decks.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
You're asking for a colorless 5/5 for 3. Good luck getting that at common.
You can get a 5/5 creature for one mana at common. Gurmag Angler
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
The delve on that was damn near prohibitive in limited though, and it was B, NOT 1, which is a huge difference
Sure, let's ignore the fact that you still have to delve for 6 and each delve makes the next one harder 5/5 for CCC at common will not happen anytime soon.
With that said, I think a 3/3 is not really a good payoff for going mono-color. But I guess either the 2/3 or 3/2 would already be too much for common. Maybe they should have thrown some trinket text or a weaker keyword like vigilance ? 3/3 Vigilance looks like a fair payoff at common and 3 2/2 vigilance still is pretty bad.
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BG Auras
I actually really like that.
In monoblue this actually feels above rate (and probably also have cards that care about controlling artifacts).
You never want a Gray Ogre. And a Hill Giant or Battle Hurda are regularly surpassed these days. At that point, you really need a 3/3 to matter vs your opponent's creatures in games 2 and 3.
Older Magic as a Board Game: Panglacial Wurm , Mill
When did I ever say for limited?
Read my posts, I said for constructed. (Post #9 of the thread, last line)
Its draft chaff, I couldn't care less about limited.
You are forgetting Pauper is now a sanctioned & supported format. It will happen sooner than you think. Don't settle for crap commons, it lets WotC off the hook.
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Pauper being a sanctioned format does not mean every single common will be designed with that format in mind. Commons are designed with limited in mind as well as being filler cards for kitchen table. If all commons are amazing it's unlikely that acquiring a few extra cards will improve your deck.
Again, I find it strange that a payoff common is the place they decided to go safe but them I had not considered blue/white in general has artifacts matters theme. Making this generally too good would hurt that archetype.
BGU Control
R Aggro
Standard - For Fun
BG Auras
The design is well crafted to solve that problem.
When you realize this card exists for that reason alone, it feels good to let go of the anxious feelings that it feels mediocre in other settings.
Older Magic as a Board Game: Panglacial Wurm , Mill
Cards which move up and down in value like this are great for the depth and replayability of a limited format.
Because a 3 mana 5/5 at common would be absurd in monocolored draft decks?