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"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I’d rather have DACK over freaking nobody Loser Estrid
Serra got her card you can get over it now.
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I’d rather have DACK over freaking nobody Loser Estrid
Serra got her card you can get over it now.
I feel its kind of a missed opportunity, especially with 5 years of development time to work on it. Dack was going to the underworld, Elspeth is already in the underworld, Ashiok is an antagonist to both. As a lot of Greeco-Roman myths are about guile and misdirection, and Dack would fit perfectly as the type of hero who would help save someone from the underworld even if that wasn't his original mission. As helping Elspeth out of the underworld from Erebos would be akin to the greatest theft in the multiverse.
I’d rather have DACK over freaking nobody Loser Estrid
Serra got her card you can get over it now.
I feel its kind of a missed opportunity, especially with 5 years of development time to work on it. Dack was going to the underworld, Elspeth is already in the underworld, Ashiok is an antagonist to both. As a lot of Greeco-Roman myths are about guile and misdirection, and Dack would fit perfectly as the type of hero who would help save someone from the underworld even if that wasn't his original mission. As helping Elspeth out of the underworld from Erebos would be akin to the greatest theft in the multiverse.
Oh I'm very much still thinking and hoping for Dack being here, agree it would work better and might be a reason he wasn't originally in War and give him one last card hurrah.
The Estrid commit was thinking that if we didn't get Dack Estrid would make sense as she is the enchantress walker and we finally get some lore on her besides her mask magic and being older in age.
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I’d rather have DACK over freaking nobody Loser Estrid
Serra got her card you can get over it now.
I feel its kind of a missed opportunity, especially with 5 years of development time to work on it. Dack was going to the underworld, Elspeth is already in the underworld, Ashiok is an antagonist to both. As a lot of Greeco-Roman myths are about guile and misdirection, and Dack would fit perfectly as the type of hero who would help save someone from the underworld even if that wasn't his original mission. As helping Elspeth out of the underworld from Erebos would be akin to the greatest theft in the multiverse.
Oh I'm very much still thinking and hoping for Dack being here, agree it would work better and might be a reason he wasn't originally in War and give him one last card hurrah.
The Estrid commit was thinking that if we didn't get Dack Estrid would make sense as she is the enchantress walker and we finally get some lore on her besides her mask magic and being older in age.
I guess the most we might get is a cameo?
And its already known they haven't announced any brawl decks for Theros, so Dack being a commander in one of them seems out the window as well. Plus they haven't announced any novel or comics for Theros Beyond Death which seems odd.
I’d rather have DACK over freaking nobody Loser Estrid
Serra got her card you can get over it now.
I feel its kind of a missed opportunity, especially with 5 years of development time to work on it. Dack was going to the underworld, Elspeth is already in the underworld, Ashiok is an antagonist to both. As a lot of Greeco-Roman myths are about guile and misdirection, and Dack would fit perfectly as the type of hero who would help save someone from the underworld even if that wasn't his original mission. As helping Elspeth out of the underworld from Erebos would be akin to the greatest theft in the multiverse.
Oh I'm very much still thinking and hoping for Dack being here, agree it would work better and might be a reason he wasn't originally in War and give him one last card hurrah.
The Estrid commit was thinking that if we didn't get Dack Estrid would make sense as she is the enchantress walker and we finally get some lore on her besides her mask magic and being older in age.
I guess the most we might get is a cameo?
And its already known they haven't announced any brawl decks for Theros, so Dack being a commander in one of them seems out the window as well. Plus they haven't announced any novel or comics for Theros Beyond Death which seems odd.
peteyvonwho asked: You're probably not allowed to tell us this yet, but the third Planeswalker in Theros Beyond Death, are they a new character or someone we've seen before?
A: Yes. : )
The Yes. : ) could mean yes Maro can't talk about it yes OR yes its a new character OR yes its a character we have seen before. Dack, Estrid, someone new are still possible.
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"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Edit: Oh. I could still be Ajani. Strange question/answer
Might be a damage control answer and/or an answer to maintain hype.
Its literally a non-answer. He does this to maintain hype. He chooses a question that is so poorly worded that "Yes" could mean anything. Which makes this thread title super misleading. Could someone fix or remove it?
Edit: Oh. I could still be Ajani. Strange question/answer
Might be a damage control answer and/or an answer to maintain hype.
Its literally a non-answer. He does this to maintain hype. He chooses a question that is so poorly worded that "Yes" could mean anything. Which makes this thread title super misleading. Could someone fix or remove it?
Well some say IDW has the rights for the character (Dack Fayden) and thats why we don't have another version of the character in cards neither why he wasn't in a standard set since he first started to take the spotlight.
It would be nice to have hin on a new card but idk. They clearly didn't showed the third walker mostly because Elspeth and Ashiok would have the "VS" focus on arena and in the Trailer, soo the other walker could be a new one or a returning one that it would not matter much.
Well some say IDW has the rights for the character (Dack Fayden) and thats why we don't have another version of the character in cards neither why he wasn't in a standard set since he first started to take the spotlight.
People say that but never have the receipts
It would be nice to have hin on a new card but idk. They clearly didn't showed the third walker mostly because Elspeth and Ashiok would have the "VS" focus on arena and in the Trailer, soo the other walker could be a new one or a returning one that it would not matter much.
Eldraine trailer didn't have Oko or the twins and the gingerbread stuff isn't canon, but the trailer was made with what they wanted people to take away from the set. The scene from the trailer could similar in that the event don't happen right off just showing us Elspeth and Ashiok are in conflict in the underworld. Similar to war it might be a scene from the story that they give a few creative twists to for the trailer.
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Why did I think Dack died during War of the Spark? I could have swore Dack was killed along with Domri.... I gotta get my Stories straight
The answer seems to me like a non answer...could be old, could be new...it’s like someone saying “do you want steak or fish?” and you respond, “yes”. :). Unfortunately I don’t think it confirms anything (that sneaky Maro!)
Why did I think Dack died during War of the Spark? I could have swore Dack was killed along with Domri.... I gotta get my Stories straight
He did, but at the end of the foresaken novel they had a scene where the Wanderer show off a golden mask she is wearing. From that I'm thinking Theros 2 might before the events of War, with Elspeth really being the Wanderer. It would also explain why Dack was originally not used for War since they knew he show up in Theros similar with Garruk and Eldraine.
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Why did I think Dack died during War of the Spark? I could have swore Dack was killed along with Domri.... I gotta get my Stories straight
He did, but at the end of the foresaken novel they had a scene where the Wanderer show off a golden mask she is wearing. From that I'm thinking Theros 2 might before the events of War.
How cool! They could always say he “faked it”, stole something that saved him, went to the afterlife and got out, etc...this is fantasy...no one has to stay dead
I mean, Dack isn’t the only walker who hasn’t had a Standard card. And if we start going a bit broader such as “been in more than one set in a noteworthy way” then it starts becoming an even larger pool. He also doesn’t really have much to do with Theros, and no, a plot line of him in Theros isn’t a compelling enough reason. Hoping it’s someone new or someone who feels a bit more like they’re from Theros as that’s currently an empty slot (and I would argue Gideon didn’t feel too strongly from there so empty since inception really).
I mean, Dack isn’t the only walker who hasn’t had a Standard card. And if we start going a bit broader such as “been in more than one set in a noteworthy way” then it starts becoming an even larger pool. He also doesn’t really have much to do with Theros, and no, a plot line of him in Theros isn’t a compelling enough reason. Hoping it’s someone new or someone who feels a bit more like they’re from Theros as that’s currently an empty slot (and I would argue Gideon didn’t feel too strongly from there so empty since inception really).
I dunno that one plot point is actually kind of releveant.
Ashiok is causing nightmares to the denizens of Theros. Then harvesting thsese nightmares which they then tried to use to make a god named Cacophany, which was a warped version of a God of Polis. The newly born god was stopped by Ephara, the current God of Polis. But the thing about Ashiok is that they are invisible to all gods except Phenax who granted them their invisibility. All the while Ashiok is still harvesting nightmares on the denizens, mostly by causing the ones with magical aptitude to sleepwalk and cast destructive spells at fake enemies that the sleepwalker sees in their nightmare.
Dack wanted to stop this ^ and wanted to go to the underworld to do so to confront Ashiok. The comic ends on a cliff hanger as hes about to step into the underworld.
That whole storyline alone is enough fuel for a Torment version of Theros where there are nightmares, zombies, and other ghoulies running rampant. a Greeco-Roman Horror set if you would.
Sure, but that hardly requires Dack specifically. It doesn’t even necessarily require a Walker, though due to the nature of the story it would have to be. It seems Elspeth, if they go with that storyline (though given Ashiok was in War they could just have abandoned it) it would look like Elspeth is handling it.
Sure, but that hardly requires Dack specifically. It doesn’t even necessarily require a Walker, though due to the nature of the story it would have to be. It seems Elspeth, if they go with that storyline (though given Ashiok was in War they could just have abandoned it) it would look like Elspeth is handling it.
Defintely seems that way. Especially with how hard they are pushing the Elspeth vs Ashiok angle.
The third walker is a new one
EDIT: on topic if my theory is wrong and we aren't getting Dack, I'm guessing Estrid will be in.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Serra got her card you can get over it now.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Oh I'm very much still thinking and hoping for Dack being here, agree it would work better and might be a reason he wasn't originally in War and give him one last card hurrah.
The Estrid commit was thinking that if we didn't get Dack Estrid would make sense as she is the enchantress walker and we finally get some lore on her besides her mask magic and being older in age.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
And its already known they haven't announced any brawl decks for Theros, so Dack being a commander in one of them seems out the window as well. Plus they haven't announced any novel or comics for Theros Beyond Death which seems odd.
I prefer the Dack stealing from Death idea
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
The Yes. : ) could mean yes Maro can't talk about it yes OR yes its a new character OR yes its a character we have seen before. Dack, Estrid, someone new are still possible.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Edit: Oh. I could still be Ajani. Strange question/answer
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
It would be nice to have hin on a new card but idk. They clearly didn't showed the third walker mostly because Elspeth and Ashiok would have the "VS" focus on arena and in the Trailer, soo the other walker could be a new one or a returning one that it would not matter much.
People say that but never have the receipts
Eldraine trailer didn't have Oko or the twins and the gingerbread stuff isn't canon, but the trailer was made with what they wanted people to take away from the set. The scene from the trailer could similar in that the event don't happen right off just showing us Elspeth and Ashiok are in conflict in the underworld. Similar to war it might be a scene from the story that they give a few creative twists to for the trailer.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
The answer seems to me like a non answer...could be old, could be new...it’s like someone saying “do you want steak or fish?” and you respond, “yes”. :). Unfortunately I don’t think it confirms anything (that sneaky Maro!)
He did, but at the end of the foresaken novel they had a scene where the Wanderer show off a golden mask she is wearing. From that I'm thinking Theros 2 might before the events of War, with Elspeth really being the Wanderer. It would also explain why Dack was originally not used for War since they knew he show up in Theros similar with Garruk and Eldraine.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
How cool! They could always say he “faked it”, stole something that saved him, went to the afterlife and got out, etc...this is fantasy...no one has to stay dead
Thanks for the info. That’s cool.
Ashiok is causing nightmares to the denizens of Theros. Then harvesting thsese nightmares which they then tried to use to make a god named Cacophany, which was a warped version of a God of Polis. The newly born god was stopped by Ephara, the current God of Polis. But the thing about Ashiok is that they are invisible to all gods except Phenax who granted them their invisibility. All the while Ashiok is still harvesting nightmares on the denizens, mostly by causing the ones with magical aptitude to sleepwalk and cast destructive spells at fake enemies that the sleepwalker sees in their nightmare.
Dack wanted to stop this ^ and wanted to go to the underworld to do so to confront Ashiok. The comic ends on a cliff hanger as hes about to step into the underworld.
That whole storyline alone is enough fuel for a Torment version of Theros where there are nightmares, zombies, and other ghoulies running rampant. a Greeco-Roman Horror set if you would.
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