Once per game, any time you could cast a sorcery (during your main phase when the stack is empty), you can pay 3 generic mana to put your companion from your sideboard into your hand. This is a special action, not an activated ability.
Basically no more casting from sideboard and you need to pay 3 to put into your hand and when there's absolutely nothing on the stack
Well, It might have seen some play after the ban if you could do it at instand speed. But at sorcery speed it just killed the mechanic, though maybe that's not a bad thing.
Well companions will still see play and at least now you run the risk of possibly getting them discarded and not used. It's still an extra card in your hand, but at least it'll either take two extra turns to get going or wait far longer to do it.
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just go and unban Lurrus from vintage already..... hahaha
what a weird way to fix the issue.
How about Lutri, the Spellchaser for edh is he still to bad for it since it always meets the criteria and now you can’t cast from sideboard and you have to pay 3 to your hand
I like the companion change. This way it's card advantage and consistency at the cost of minor deck building restrictions and tempo loss.
The bans seem good as well. Fires should have never been printed and Agent had to go. I'm probably a minority in thinking Teferi should stay, it keeps Wilderness Reclamation in check (though that should be banned as well) and keeps flash decks from being prominent in a time when they have really good options.
So weird to have multiple bannings and even functional power level errata this early in the release. I mean, did they even test these?
I think the new ability is fair. Call it the companion tax. Still playable if the opportunity cost is low. It’s just so bad now compared to what it was before.
I wonder how the players would have reacted if this was the ability to begin with. We’ll never know.
just go and unban Lurrus from vintage already..... hahaha
what a weird way to fix the issue.
How about Lutri, the Spellchaser for edh is he still to bad for it since it always meets the criteria and now you can’t cast from sideboard and you have to pay 3 to your hand
He might not be too bad (still means that you have to play him but 6 mana even over two turns for that effect but not too ground breaking), but it is hard to get off the banned list once on it, so I imagine he will stay
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Whenever two or more creatures attack you or a planeswalker you control, draw a card
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you can play lands from the top of your library
If you pay four generic mana, one red and one green, she gets +1/+1 for each land you control
Yeah, except for Yorion control. Which is the current problem in Standard and creeping into other formats as well. At least you cant use untapped Fires Mana for the put to hand clause
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Companion change is so weird, especially on the 3 mana companions. They are now impossible to cast on-curve.
Personally, I was in favor of, "If you reveal a companion, also reveal your starting hand. An opponent chooses a nonland card from your hand. You discard that card."
Gets rid of the advantage of having an extra card, and letting the opponent choose which card gets discarded makes up for getting to choose a card which starts in your "hand" every game.
Necessary changes, however; we as a community, we as consumers, we as players, need to vocally demand a change in approach regarding design.
There is a clear disconnect. Design itself needs to run free and be creative, but cards need to be tested with feedback listened to before cards are printed. There have been far too many bannings recently and something has to give. The game can not continue to exist while repeatedly becoming so unhealthy.
The addiction is hard to break. If you wont speak with your wallet, contact wotc. Explain the issue, demand change, offer alternatives.
Im so sick of this ***** from them every set lately. Balance is hard, but ignoring reprints and printing format breaking cards that have to be banned every single recent set is totally unacceptable and needs to change.
Necessary changes, however; we as a community, we as consumers, we as players, need to vocally demand a change in approach regarding design.
There is a clear disconnect. Design itself needs to run free and be creative, but cards need to be tested with feedback listened to before cards are printed. There have been far too many bannings recently and something has to give. The game can not continue to exist while repeatedly becoming so unhealthy.
The addiction is hard to break. If you wont speak with your wallet, contact wotc. Explain the issue, demand change, offer alternatives.
Im so sick of this ***** from them every set lately. Balance is hard, but ignoring reprints and printing format breaking cards that have to be banned every single recent set is totally unacceptable and needs to change.
At this point they could just select a random bunch of people and let them look at the "version 0.9" version of a sets design of cards and let people look over the cards.
If you let say 100 or even 1000 people look over the lists of cards, somebody might notice a problem or just give them proper feedback of what they didnt think of.
It costs them nothing as people will do that for no cost, its just customer feedback.
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Yea sure, some cards will get spoiled ahead of time, but thats a problem they have anyway, so eat the apple and get customer feedback as early as possible to fix problems before the cards go to print.
Necessary changes, however; we as a community, we as consumers, we as players, need to vocally demand a change in approach regarding design.
There is a clear disconnect. Design itself needs to run free and be creative, but cards need to be tested with feedback listened to before cards are printed. There have been far too many bannings recently and something has to give. The game can not continue to exist while repeatedly becoming so unhealthy.
The addiction is hard to break. If you wont speak with your wallet, contact wotc. Explain the issue, demand change, offer alternatives.
Im so sick of this ***** from them every set lately. Balance is hard, but ignoring reprints and printing format breaking cards that have to be banned every single recent set is totally unacceptable and needs to change.
At this point they could just select a random bunch of people and let them look at the "version 0.9" version of a sets design of cards and let people look over the cards.
If you let say 100 or even 1000 people look over the lists of cards, somebody might notice a problem or just give them proper feedback of what they didnt think of.
It costs them nothing as people will do that for no cost, its just customer feedback.
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Yea sure, some cards will get spoiled ahead of time, but thats a problem they have anyway, so eat the apple and get customer feedback as early as possible to fix problems before the cards go to print.
Essentially spoiling every full set nearly a year before they come out doesn't sound like a good idea regardless of it would actually fix the problem. If it would fix the problem is debatable with a strong argument for no considering few people discovered any of the problematic cards just from looking at them. Also this fallacy of it having no cost is ridiculous. It might be low cost but it could also be unreasonably expensive.
Essentially spoiling every full set nearly a year before they come out doesn't sound like a good idea regardless of it would actually fix the problem. If it would fix the problem is debatable with a strong argument for no considering few people discovered any of the problematic cards just from looking at them. Also this fallacy of it having no cost is ridiculous. It might be low cost but it could also be unreasonably expensive.
Cost is people know about a set in advance, which is the entire point to spoil stuff early to FIX them before its too late.
It doesnt change anything, if you release all cards early, as you do it for all and every set, the entire time just moves.
and if you want to somewhat prevent spoilers going public, you can put the people under some confidential contract ; but no matter what, even movies do it and show the stuff earlier to a test-audience , get feedback early to fix your product before it ships.
At this point they fix the product AFTER they sold it, which is just the worst kind possible, so whatever else they do, it can only be better.
So weird to have multiple bannings and even functional power level errata this early in the release. I mean, did they even test these?
This is something I've been wondering. Seems like their new playtest group started strong, but in the past two years there have been more bannings than ever. To companion's credit only two or three are a real issue that could have been solved by different CMC, stats, or prerequisites (to be a companion) on the card(s).
If I had to put this on the storm scale I'd be putting this at around a (maybe a 6) 7 or 8, considering how hard it is to balance, but as we see it is possible to make companions that aren't overly oppressive.
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agent of treachery and fires of invention banned in standard and suspended in historic
And the companion new text is this
Basically no more casting from sideboard and you need to pay 3 to put into your hand and when there's absolutely nothing on the stack
At sorcery speed
just go and unban Lurrus from vintage already..... hahaha
what a weird way to fix the issue.
Agree on the Standard bans
The "new rules" for companion basically kills them, ....I think...
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How about Lutri, the Spellchaser for edh is he still to bad for it since it always meets the criteria and now you can’t cast from sideboard and you have to pay 3 to your hand
The bans seem good as well. Fires should have never been printed and Agent had to go. I'm probably a minority in thinking Teferi should stay, it keeps Wilderness Reclamation in check (though that should be banned as well) and keeps flash decks from being prominent in a time when they have really good options.
I think the new ability is fair. Call it the companion tax. Still playable if the opportunity cost is low. It’s just so bad now compared to what it was before.
I wonder how the players would have reacted if this was the ability to begin with. We’ll never know.
He might not be too bad (still means that you have to play him but 6 mana even over two turns for that effect but not too ground breaking), but it is hard to get off the banned list once on it, so I imagine he will stay
1b instant
Destroy target creature or planeswalker with converted mana cost of three or less
1u instant
You draw a card, then you draw a card for each copy of this card in the graveyard
Mangara, of Time Spiral fame
3w
Legendary Human Wizard
2/4 Lifelink
Whenever two or more creatures attack you or a planeswalker you control, draw a card
Whenever an opponent casts a second spell in the same turn, draw a card
Radha
1rg
Legendary Elf Warrior
Radha has first strike on your turn
you can play lands from the top of your library
If you pay four generic mana, one red and one green, she gets +1/+1 for each land you control
Leak Source, it also predicted the Fires of Invention ban
It also got he companion change right
(XYZ = if there are no spells on the stack)
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There's nothing different there still sticking with June 22th for the update so no word on lutri yet I there is
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Personally, I was in favor of, "If you reveal a companion, also reveal your starting hand. An opponent chooses a nonland card from your hand. You discard that card."
Gets rid of the advantage of having an extra card, and letting the opponent choose which card gets discarded makes up for getting to choose a card which starts in your "hand" every game.
There is a clear disconnect. Design itself needs to run free and be creative, but cards need to be tested with feedback listened to before cards are printed. There have been far too many bannings recently and something has to give. The game can not continue to exist while repeatedly becoming so unhealthy.
The addiction is hard to break. If you wont speak with your wallet, contact wotc. Explain the issue, demand change, offer alternatives.
Im so sick of this ***** from them every set lately. Balance is hard, but ignoring reprints and printing format breaking cards that have to be banned every single recent set is totally unacceptable and needs to change.
At this point they could just select a random bunch of people and let them look at the "version 0.9" version of a sets design of cards and let people look over the cards.
If you let say 100 or even 1000 people look over the lists of cards, somebody might notice a problem or just give them proper feedback of what they didnt think of.
It costs them nothing as people will do that for no cost, its just customer feedback.
----
Yea sure, some cards will get spoiled ahead of time, but thats a problem they have anyway, so eat the apple and get customer feedback as early as possible to fix problems before the cards go to print.
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Cost is people know about a set in advance, which is the entire point to spoil stuff early to FIX them before its too late.
It doesnt change anything, if you release all cards early, as you do it for all and every set, the entire time just moves.
and if you want to somewhat prevent spoilers going public, you can put the people under some confidential contract ; but no matter what, even movies do it and show the stuff earlier to a test-audience , get feedback early to fix your product before it ships.
At this point they fix the product AFTER they sold it, which is just the worst kind possible, so whatever else they do, it can only be better.
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This is something I've been wondering. Seems like their new playtest group started strong, but in the past two years there have been more bannings than ever. To companion's credit only two or three are a real issue that could have been solved by different CMC, stats, or prerequisites (to be a companion) on the card(s).
If I had to put this on the storm scale I'd be putting this at around a (maybe a 6) 7 or 8, considering how hard it is to balance, but as we see it is possible to make companions that aren't overly oppressive.