Jace, Mirror Mage 1UU
Legendary Planeswalker — Jace (Mythic Rare)
Kicker 2
When Jace, Mirror Mage enters the battlefield, if Jace was kicked, create a token that's a copy of Jace, Mirror Mage, except it's not legendary and its starting loyalty is 1.
+ 1: Scry 2.
0: Draw a card and reveal it. Remove a number of loyalty counters Equal to that card's converted mana cost from Jace, Mirror Mage.
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Kicker Jace, because scrying 2 twice is... useful, I guess. At least he combos with himself, and does an interesting Dark Confidant impression.
but this is the most underwhelming Jace I have ever seen should of had a “add loyalty equal to “blank”” like Gideon, Champion of Justice but then again it’s essetionally a dark confidant But to himself instead of you
I get that the 0 ability is harsh, but it’s like Jace is “Bob”-ing himself. So I think it’s a neat idea.
Plus if he's grabbing lands off the top of your library, he takes no damage. This seems great. We still have Castle Vantress in Standard with it, as well. It also says `draw` and not just put it into your hand or anything, so it triggers Teferi's Ageless Insight and Teferi's Tutelage.
I don't like this card at all, but it's certainly an interesting design. I like that you can get into a cycle of scrying and drawing into lands, since that'll likely be useful in Zendikar.
Did we know kicker was coming back? Will they bring it back and landfall?
if you have a card draw doubler in play, what happens with the 0 ability? Reveal both cards, get hit twice?
Seems good on turn 3 or turn 5, honestly. You are probably going to tick up more often than not, and use the 0 probably when you know what's on top (or in a very lean deck).
Really cool design. 1UU lets him make a decent Jace Beleren impression by drawing you a few cards and then probably dying, while 3UU gives you a good card advantage engine via the Scrying+Draw that'll probably give you a steady supply of land drops... which is good but wouldn't be that impressive in any other plane not called Zendikar.
Overall, it's probably not going to shake the world (pun intended) but as with any card with kicker, you're trading off raw power for versatility. Also, uh, that showcase art? Not a fan.
I like the concept but the card seems bad. I would really like it if it was CMC 2 and thinking of it if it was CMC 2 with starting loyalty 3 it would be goodish but not broken as W&6 but just slight better than Tibalt.
I like to see Kicker and Landfall (i guess we can guess the leaked Nissa is real) on Walkers. Hope we see maybe Deathtouch (for maybe Vraska) and Spectacle (for maybe Tibalt). Soo much design space.
I think this card is already underestimated. 3 Mana 6 Lyalality & rapidly growin by a Scry 2, which can grant you huge advantage over the course of the game. You will from there on mostly draw good cards for as long as Jace is around.
Idk. This +2 & his 0 remind me of Sensei's divining top.
Seems like another bad Jace, which probably means it'll be broken. :/
I agree that while I'm also disinterested in the individual effects, it is very interesting design space. The tempo scales from early to mid-game, how you balance two different loyalty abilities is a test of your ability to read the board (and your library), and if nothing else you can just pay 2 to draw an extra card - or maybe hit a land and keep clone Jace around an extra turn. I would never purposely craft a deck around giving my opponent extra options, but forcing hard decisions ('do I go face or attack two planeswalkers?') can sometimes add incidental value.
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I think this card is already underestimated. 3 Mana 6 Lyalality & rapidly growin by a Scry 2, which can grant you huge advantage over the course of the game. You will from there on mostly draw good cards for as long as Jace is around.
Idk. This +2 & his 0 remind me of Sensei's divining top.
I’m realizing that actually
Heck with both you scry with one and 0 with the other
Outside of Jace and his Stand「ANOTHER JACE」, we have exploring-a-cave Jace, being-chased-by-scaly-beasts Jace, walking Jace, looking-over-a-cliff Jace, and superhero landing Jace.
but this is the most underwhelming Jace I have ever seen should of had a “add loyalty equal to “blank”” like Gideon, Champion of Justice but then again it’s essetionally a dark confidant But to himself instead of you
and the showcase art it’s like he’s evil lol
Makes sense. It plays into their original Zendikar feeling type thing. So I guess that means Landfall and Kicker are the returning mechanics officially*
I like how they're giving PWs keywords outside of their loyalty abilities. It opens up space for design. I hope they do more of that. But onto Jace itself: A 3 mana 4 loyalty card that can rearrange your library on an incremental basis and draw cards? Sign me up.
EDIT: I'd like to know what those three-eyed wurm things he's fighting are. I hope they're in this set.
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but this is the most underwhelming Jace I have ever seen should of had a “add loyalty equal to “blank”” like Gideon, Champion of Justice but then again it’s essetionally a dark confidant But to himself instead of you
and the showcase art it’s like he’s evil lol
Makes sense. It plays into their original Zendikar feeling type thing. So I guess that means Landfall and Kicker are the returning mechanics officially*
I like how they're giving PWs keywords outside of their loyalty abilities. It opens up space for design. I hope they do more of that. But onto Jace itself: A 3 mana 4 loyalty card that can rearrange your library on an incremental basis and draw cards? Sign me up.
EDIT: I'd like to know what those three-eyed wurm things he's fighting are. I hope they're in this set.
if you have a card draw doubler in play, what happens with the 0 ability? Reveal both cards, get hit twice?
Seems good on turn 3 or turn 5, honestly. You are probably going to tick up more often than not, and use the 0 probably when you know what's on top (or in a very lean deck).
As the card draw doubler, lets say for example Teferi's Ageless Insight, is a replacement effect, I'm fairly certain the second card is just drawn. I'm not even 100% sure that the first card drawn hurts Jace, but replacement effects always have weird rules interactions. Can our resident rules guru chime in on this?
but this is the most underwhelming Jace I have ever seen should of had a “add loyalty equal to “blank”” like Gideon, Champion of Justice but then again it’s essetionally a dark confidant But to himself instead of you
and the showcase art it’s like he’s evil lol
Makes sense. It plays into their original Zendikar feeling type thing. So I guess that means Landfall and Kicker are the returning mechanics officially*
I like how they're giving PWs keywords outside of their loyalty abilities. It opens up space for design. I hope they do more of that. But onto Jace itself: A 3 mana 4 loyalty card that can rearrange your library on an incremental basis and draw cards? Sign me up.
EDIT: I'd like to know what those three-eyed wurm things he's fighting are. I hope they're in this set.
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There was one a few weeks ago that showed her with Golgari colours and featuring landfall as a way to up her loyalty or something. Let's see if I can find it.
but this is the most underwhelming Jace I have ever seen should of had a “add loyalty equal to “blank”” like Gideon, Champion of Justice but then again it’s essetionally a dark confidant But to himself instead of you
and the showcase art it’s like he’s evil lol
Makes sense. It plays into their original Zendikar feeling type thing. So I guess that means Landfall and Kicker are the returning mechanics officially*
I like how they're giving PWs keywords outside of their loyalty abilities. It opens up space for design. I hope they do more of that. But onto Jace itself: A 3 mana 4 loyalty card that can rearrange your library on an incremental basis and draw cards? Sign me up.
EDIT: I'd like to know what those three-eyed wurm things he's fighting are. I hope they're in this set.
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There was one a few weeks ago that showed her with Golgari colours and featuring landfall as a way to up her loyalty or something. Let's see if I can find it.
Jace, Mirror Mage 1UU
Legendary Planeswalker — Jace (Mythic Rare)
Kicker 2
When Jace, Mirror Mage enters the battlefield, if Jace was kicked, create a token that's a copy of Jace, Mirror Mage, except it's not legendary and its starting loyalty is 1.
+ 1: Scry 2.
0: Draw a card and reveal it. Remove a number of loyalty counters Equal to that card's converted mana cost from Jace, Mirror Mage.
4
Kicker Jace, because scrying 2 twice is... useful, I guess. At least he combos with himself, and does an interesting Dark Confidant impression.
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but this is the most underwhelming Jace I have ever seen should of had a “add loyalty equal to “blank”” like Gideon, Champion of Justice but then again it’s essetionally a dark confidant But to himself instead of you
and the showcase art it’s like he’s evil lol
Plus if he's grabbing lands off the top of your library, he takes no damage. This seems great. We still have Castle Vantress in Standard with it, as well. It also says `draw` and not just put it into your hand or anything, so it triggers Teferi's Ageless Insight and Teferi's Tutelage.
Did we know kicker was coming back? Will they bring it back and landfall?
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Seems good on turn 3 or turn 5, honestly. You are probably going to tick up more often than not, and use the 0 probably when you know what's on top (or in a very lean deck).
This would be a lot of fun with doubling season
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Overall, it's probably not going to shake the world (pun intended) but as with any card with kicker, you're trading off raw power for versatility. Also, uh, that showcase art? Not a fan.
I like to see Kicker and Landfall (i guess we can guess the leaked Nissa is real) on Walkers. Hope we see maybe Deathtouch (for maybe Vraska) and Spectacle (for maybe Tibalt). Soo much design space.
Idk. This +2 & his 0 remind me of Sensei's divining top.
I agree that while I'm also disinterested in the individual effects, it is very interesting design space. The tempo scales from early to mid-game, how you balance two different loyalty abilities is a test of your ability to read the board (and your library), and if nothing else you can just pay 2 to draw an extra card - or maybe hit a land and keep clone Jace around an extra turn. I would never purposely craft a deck around giving my opponent extra options, but forcing hard decisions ('do I go face or attack two planeswalkers?') can sometimes add incidental value.
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Its interesting as a card... but i also dont think itll see much play honestly
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Heck with both you scry with one and 0 with the other
Outside of Jace and his Stand「ANOTHER JACE」, we have exploring-a-cave Jace, being-chased-by-scaly-beasts Jace, walking Jace, looking-over-a-cliff Jace, and superhero landing Jace.
now where's Tiro
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Makes sense. It plays into their original Zendikar feeling type thing. So I guess that means Landfall and Kicker are the returning mechanics officially*
I like how they're giving PWs keywords outside of their loyalty abilities. It opens up space for design. I hope they do more of that. But onto Jace itself: A 3 mana 4 loyalty card that can rearrange your library on an incremental basis and draw cards? Sign me up.
EDIT: I'd like to know what those three-eyed wurm things he's fighting are. I hope they're in this set.
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As the card draw doubler, lets say for example Teferi's Ageless Insight, is a replacement effect, I'm fairly certain the second card is just drawn. I'm not even 100% sure that the first card drawn hurts Jace, but replacement effects always have weird rules interactions. Can our resident rules guru chime in on this?
There was one a few weeks ago that showed her with Golgari colours and featuring landfall as a way to up her loyalty or something. Let's see if I can find it.
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/speculation/818110-leak-potential-nissa-zendikar-rising-pw-card (posted right here in MTGSally)
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