Okay, so I was looking into it and I'm thinking "the return of four mana symbols that have each only ever been used on two cards before" has to be the twobrid/monocolor hybrid mana. There are four monocolor hybrid cards- Advice from the Fae, Beseech the Queen, Flame Javelin, and Tower Above, plus Reaper King. That means each of those four different coloured twobrid symbols has been used on one of the four cards and on Reaper King, hence each used on two cards. I looked into high numbers of generic mana as well to see if there were four numbers that had only been used on two cards, but I could only come up with 15 on Emrakul, the Aeons Torn and Mox Lotus and that's counting Un-cards (13 appears only on Emrakul, the Promised End and 16 only on Draco), so I'm almost 100% sure twobrid will be in ZNR.
EDIT: Ok, so for some reason Spectral Procession doesn't have its reminder text for twobrid included in its oracle text on gatherer, and so it doesn't show up when you search for the twobrid reminder text. I actually have a sinking suspicion MaRo has made the same mistake, because other than this fact monocolor hybrid fits so perfectly to this hint and I can't think of literally any other possibility than twobrid. It could also be that only four colours get twobrid cards in Zendikar Rising (hence only four of the symbols return), but that seems unlikely.
On another note: white creature that kill an opponent when attacking...that's interesting
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On another note: white creature that kill an opponent when attacking...that's interesting
Could also be a new card for the cowards effect. Even multiple, perhaps including Boldwyr Intimidator. But Boldwyr Intimidator does seem likely.
Given this and the new Nahiri warrior filtering effect, it seems like there will be a bit of a warrior tribal theme in this set. Perhaps the +2/+2 tribal effect is for warriors? Though none of the warriors in Alpha were originally printed with the warrior type, but that might not be relevant.
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To be fair, we're had a lot of mono-white Wizards, so it's not saying much. Then again, Angels never have class subtypes outside those two Alliesin BFZ. Maybe it's the Angel with the bismuth swords from the SDCC presentation.
I'm guessing Omnath has something to do with “don’t lose unspent red mana.”
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Why would Omnanth care specifically about red mana like that though? Seems odd.
He's been red in both of his previous 2 incarnations, and holding on to mana through different phases is kind of his shtick. Perhaps there's a story reason for him leaning harder into red?
Finally ben waiting for this let's see what I can guess (big post)
general teasers
1. Not sure how that work but it's probably a really obnoxious condition to untap the creature since all you have to do is attack to insta-kill a player for me let's see if it will make it into my alt win tribal deck
6. Huge restriction will apply of coarse or vannila creatures
7. There's only one mana symbol that fits that description And that’s this (2/U)(2/B)(2/R)(2/G) aka what you can find on 4 cards plus reaper king so I think these symbols are going on all the 4-color legends
Why is everyone so sure of Boldwyr Intimidator? Isn't "Boldwyr" a Lorwyn-specific term?
Also, "4 mana symbols that have only appeared on 2 cards" probably isn't colorless hybrid mana, it's WURG. Has appeared on Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis, Ink-Treader Nephilim and now on new Omnath.
I hope that first one is the almost-nonexistent good white control finisher, like a better (not strictly better) Baneslayer Angel.
Expect it with weird requirement before attacking, staying in play or casting. I don't think it would be just a creature you cast or stay in play ordinarily
I have a bad feeling that "A red/white creature with a line of rules text that starts with “Whenever” and ends with “draw a card”" will have text along the lines of "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card."
I also get the feeling Maro isn't being entirely honest here. Both "A white creature that can make an opponent lose the game simply by attacking them no matter how much life they have" and "Targeted enchantment removal in black" could very well be multicoloured cards that are both white and black.
Also, for "a 6/6 artifact creature that costs 3 and a 7/5 artifact creature that can cost 3", the 6/6 could be Lupine Prototype 2.0, while the 7/5 probably comes with a nifty cost reducer.
At least “equal to 20 minus” kinda sounds like it could be text on Death's Shadow 2.0.
I also get the nagging feeling that the Shapeshifter Rogue is a Shapeshifter Rogue Ally.
Those rules snippets are so vague as to be completely useless outside of confirming leaks.
As for the other things, I only have a couple of ideas:
The white insta-win creature probably has to attack with 10 other creatures, or with one creature with flying, one with vigilance, etc.
The thing that can steal permanents out of opponents’ graveyards *could* be the dream commander I’ve wanted for *years*,
if it has a repeatable Reanimate effect.
1.) The white creature that can kill your opponent potentially no matter their life total could be something like "when this creature deals combat damage to a player, if that player has less life than you, that player loses the game." Probably on some unreasonably costed mythic (in terms of competitivs play).
2.) It's basically 100% that this set is a DFC set, because talking about creatures that have 5 types, the only way I think that logically works is for a DFC, as unless they're all like "cat, dog, bird, snake, etc." they will run out of room on the type line.
Finally, the mama symbols that have only been done twice should be all the WUBRG combinations minus one Mana symbol, as they have only printed two cards with any of those costs before...the Nephilim in Ravnica and the commander deck legends. So I expect in addition to an Omnath costing WURG, there are other legends to complete the cycle for the rest of the combos.
I think that the Mana Symbol thing will be (2/W)(2/U)(2/R)(2/G) for Omnath, as all those symbols have only been used twice and makes sense for Omnath to be a bit splashy for Limited. Also I would believe that the 'red mana does not empty' may be Omnath, though it could be a red herring tbh.
Also the multi coloured card could be something like: 'sacrifice a creature you don't own and return target creature from an opponents graveyard with converted mana cost of X plus one, where X is the sacrificed creatures converted mana cost'
I think that the 3 activated copies will be something similar to Riku. T,RR: copy instant/sorcery. T,GG: create a token copy of target token/creature. T,2: create a token copy of target artefact.
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We already know that the new Nahiri has 'twice the number of equipment' on it. Let's see what else we can figure out/narrow down/wildly guess
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|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
EDIT: Ok, so for some reason Spectral Procession doesn't have its reminder text for twobrid included in its oracle text on gatherer, and so it doesn't show up when you search for the twobrid reminder text. I actually have a sinking suspicion MaRo has made the same mistake, because other than this fact monocolor hybrid fits so perfectly to this hint and I can't think of literally any other possibility than twobrid. It could also be that only four colours get twobrid cards in Zendikar Rising (hence only four of the symbols return), but that seems unlikely.
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On another note: white creature that kill an opponent when attacking...that's interesting
Standard: XDon't play.X
Legacy: BUReanimatorUB
Vintage: URBWGDBRU
Could also be a new card for the cowards effect. Even multiple, perhaps including Boldwyr Intimidator. But Boldwyr Intimidator does seem likely.
Given this and the new Nahiri warrior filtering effect, it seems like there will be a bit of a warrior tribal theme in this set. Perhaps the +2/+2 tribal effect is for warriors? Though none of the warriors in Alpha were originally printed with the warrior type, but that might not be relevant.
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Also the lands part make the spoiler about double faced lands sound more true.
It would seem odd to me to only bring twobrid back for one card.
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Why would Omnanth care specifically about red mana like that though? Seems odd.
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He's been red in both of his previous 2 incarnations, and holding on to mana through different phases is kind of his shtick. Perhaps there's a story reason for him leaning harder into red?
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Legendary creature - Kor Human
Merfork Elf Ally (2 lines of card type and subtypes)
Best guesses:
Wall of Brambles (Plant)
Sengir Vampire
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This is just hinting that we can see Angel Warrior, Angel Cleric and Angel Soldier in the future something like Aven's years ago.
Rhox and Loxodon had been like that
general teasers
1. Not sure how that work but it's probably a really obnoxious condition to untap the creature since all you have to do is attack to insta-kill a player for me let's see if it will make it into my alt win tribal deck
2. It might be Wrexial, the Risen Deep 2.0
3. Let me put it this way with the 3 creatures with 5-creature types not only I think they are legendary I think I may have...CALLED IT!
https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/speculation/818391-4-color-legends-in-zendikar-rising
omnath and yarok I believe are the other 2
4. Right there confirms the class tribal speculation
5. Here's the nopes https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=edhrec&q=mana:X&unique=cards what ever is not done before is the answer
6. Huge restriction will apply of coarse or vannila creatures
7. There's only one mana symbol that fits that description And that’s this (2/U)(2/B)(2/R)(2/G) aka what you can find on 4 cards plus reaper king so I think these symbols are going on all the 4-color legends
8. That’s this https://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/speculation/818659-leak-possible-df-land-mechanics
9. Black enchantment removal number 3 Here we come
10. If it’s legendary then Congradulations it's boros legend number 2 that’s not combat focused (unless it requires attacking for the draw)
11. Sweet I’m working on a activated ability tribal deck this sounds like a perfect fit for it
Rules text cards
1. No clue
2. Probably the X teaser
3. Either life, creatures or cards in hand for that one
4. Boldwyr Intimidator Reprint plane and simple
5. Don’t do that alena is already nuts
6. Nahiri, Heir of the Ancients
7. I smell draw or if it’s really Really difficult alt win
Creature types
1. Token or non-token that is the question
2. That should make tiro giddy who knows what this will do
3. With class tribal I think rogue tribal wait comes to a end at long last
4. I think.....It’s time (Could be wrong)
5.-7. Three horrors are we getting horror tribal?
8. Lookingupupanddown probably nailed the picture of this one
Also, "4 mana symbols that have only appeared on 2 cards" probably isn't colorless hybrid mana, it's WURG. Has appeared on Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis, Ink-Treader Nephilim and now on new Omnath.
Expect it with weird requirement before attacking, staying in play or casting. I don't think it would be just a creature you cast or stay in play ordinarily
I also get the feeling Maro isn't being entirely honest here. Both "A white creature that can make an opponent lose the game simply by attacking them no matter how much life they have" and "Targeted enchantment removal in black" could very well be multicoloured cards that are both white and black.
Also, for "a 6/6 artifact creature that costs 3 and a 7/5 artifact creature that can cost 3", the 6/6 could be Lupine Prototype 2.0, while the 7/5 probably comes with a nifty cost reducer.
At least “equal to 20 minus” kinda sounds like it could be text on Death's Shadow 2.0.
I also get the nagging feeling that the Shapeshifter Rogue is a Shapeshifter Rogue Ally.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
As for the other things, I only have a couple of ideas:
The white insta-win creature probably has to attack with 10 other creatures, or with one creature with flying, one with vigilance, etc.
The thing that can steal permanents out of opponents’ graveyards *could* be the dream commander I’ve wanted for *years*,
if it has a repeatable Reanimate effect.
1.) The white creature that can kill your opponent potentially no matter their life total could be something like "when this creature deals combat damage to a player, if that player has less life than you, that player loses the game." Probably on some unreasonably costed mythic (in terms of competitivs play).
2.) It's basically 100% that this set is a DFC set, because talking about creatures that have 5 types, the only way I think that logically works is for a DFC, as unless they're all like "cat, dog, bird, snake, etc." they will run out of room on the type line.
Finally, the mama symbols that have only been done twice should be all the WUBRG combinations minus one Mana symbol, as they have only printed two cards with any of those costs before...the Nephilim in Ravnica and the commander deck legends. So I expect in addition to an Omnath costing WURG, there are other legends to complete the cycle for the rest of the combos.
Also the multi coloured card could be something like: 'sacrifice a creature you don't own and return target creature from an opponents graveyard with converted mana cost of X plus one, where X is the sacrificed creatures converted mana cost'
I think that the 3 activated copies will be something similar to Riku.
T,RR: copy instant/sorcery.
T,GG: create a token copy of target token/creature.
T,2: create a token copy of target artefact.
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