OK, I've seen the video now and I can see what you're talking about. I don't play competitive so I can't say for sure, but it seems to whiff a bit too often, not counting occasional mana screw and your opponents trying to interfere. Also, you don't have anything to deal with what your opponent is doing. That seems incredibly glass-cannony and not very stable. I like the idea but I don't know how far this deck can go (also it might get boring real quick).
EDIT: It also reinforces the argument that a simple "Counter target spell you don't control" would have achieved a better result with way less text on the card.
OK, I've seen the video now and I can see what you're talking about. I don't play competitive so I can't say for sure, but it seems to whiff a bit too often, not counting occasional mana screw and your opponents trying to interfere. Also, you don't have anything to deal with what your opponent is doing. That seems incredibly glass-cannony and not very stable. I like the idea but I don't know how far this deck can go (also it might get boring real quick).
EDIT: It also reinforces the argument that a simple "Counter target spell you don't control" would have achieved a better result with way less text on the card.
But it's a polymorph spell. You're supposed to point this at yourself more than anyone else.
After a little bit more reflection, Tibalt's Trickery would actually work best in your favor in RW if you have some sort of Archon of Emeria/Eidolon of Rhetoric/Rule of Law effect in play. At that point, it is literally Counterspell. Your opponent still mills some cards then exiles some more cards, but nothing else happens before they put all the exiled cards back on the bottom of the library.
OK, I've seen the video now and I can see what you're talking about. I don't play competitive so I can't say for sure, but it seems to whiff a bit too often, not counting occasional mana screw and your opponents trying to interfere. Also, you don't have anything to deal with what your opponent is doing. That seems incredibly glass-cannony and not very stable. I like the idea but I don't know how far this deck can go (also it might get boring real quick).
EDIT: It also reinforces the argument that a simple "Counter target spell you don't control" would have achieved a better result with way less text on the card.
But it's a polymorph spell. You're supposed to point this at yourself more than anyone else.
Do you count Chaos Warp as a polymorph spell? Also, Blessed Reincarnation is a card
I'm just still angry at the useless random milling part that accomplishes nothing
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Sorry for my possible english mistakes, I'm not a native speaker.
OK, I've seen the video now and I can see what you're talking about. I don't play competitive so I can't say for sure, but it seems to whiff a bit too often, not counting occasional mana screw and your opponents trying to interfere. Also, you don't have anything to deal with what your opponent is doing. That seems incredibly glass-cannony and not very stable. I like the idea but I don't know how far this deck can go (also it might get boring real quick).
EDIT: It also reinforces the argument that a simple "Counter target spell you don't control" would have achieved a better result with way less text on the card.
But it's a polymorph spell. You're supposed to point this at yourself more than anyone else.
Do you count Chaos Warp as a polymorph spell? Also, Blessed Reincarnation is a card
I'm just still angry at the useless random milling part that accomplishes nothing
I don't count Chaos Warp as a polymorph spell, because sometimes it whiffs and the opponent gets nothing back. The milling part is there so you don't stack your deck and stick an Emrakul somewhere in the top 3 cards of your library. Of course, you're supposed to have Emmy buried somewhere in your deck as the sole creature like every polymorph deck in the past ten years.
I'm just still angry at the useless random milling part that accomplishes nothing
Turn 2 Taigam's Scheming to arrange the top 5 cards of your library in just the right order.
Turn 3 won't even need a land drop--any 0-cmc or 1-cmc spell will do, Tibalt's Trickery your own spell, then mill/exile down to the Ulamog you tucked away, exile your opponent's two lands, then accept their scoop.
The mill/exile is probably to prevent abuse like this, but you know someone somewhere will find a way to manage to abuse it.
OK, I've seen the video now and I can see what you're talking about. I don't play competitive so I can't say for sure, but it seems to whiff a bit too often, not counting occasional mana screw and your opponents trying to interfere. Also, you don't have anything to deal with what your opponent is doing. That seems incredibly glass-cannony and not very stable. I like the idea but I don't know how far this deck can go (also it might get boring real quick).
EDIT: It also reinforces the argument that a simple "Counter target spell you don't control" would have achieved a better result with way less text on the card.
But it's a polymorph spell. You're supposed to point this at yourself more than anyone else.
Do you count Chaos Warp as a polymorph spell? Also, Blessed Reincarnation is a card
I'm just still angry at the useless random milling part that accomplishes nothing
I don't count Chaos Warp as a polymorph spell, because sometimes it whiffs and the opponent gets nothing back. The milling part is there so you don't stack your deck and stick an Emrakul somewhere in the top 3 cards of your library. Of course, you're supposed to have Emmy buried somewhere in your deck as the sole creature like every polymorph deck in the past ten years.
I'm just still angry at the useless random milling part that accomplishes nothing
Turn 2 Taigam's Scheming to arrange the top 5 cards of your library in just the right order.
Turn 3 won't even need a land drop--any 0-cmc or 1-cmc spell will do, Tibalt's Trickery your own spell, then mill/exile down to the Ulamog you tucked away, exile your opponent's two lands, then accept their scoop.
The mill/exile is probably to prevent abuse like this, but you know someone somewhere will find a way to manage to abuse it.
Sure, I know why they did that, but it's still a bad way to do it IMO. Just either shuffle or restrict it to opponent's spells only. They did it this way to prevent abuse and it appears that it can still be abused, which makes it even worse because now the card feels complicated for no reason.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Sorry for my possible english mistakes, I'm not a native speaker.
Sure, I know why they did that, but it's still a bad way to do it IMO. Just either shuffle or restrict it to opponent's spells only. They did it this way to prevent abuse and it appears that it can still be abused, which makes it even worse because now the card feels complicated for no reason.
I hear you. At least this card isn't Felidar Guardian broken or how Hostage Taker could have been broken if you read its original text at face value--if you read the card literally it can target itself.
Sure, I know why they did that, but it's still a bad way to do it IMO. Just either shuffle or restrict it to opponent's spells only. They did it this way to prevent abuse and it appears that it can still be abused, which makes it even worse because now the card feels complicated for no reason.
I hear you. At least this card isn't Felidar Guardian broken or how Hostage Taker could have been broken if you read its original text at face value--if you read the card literally it can target itself.
Agreed. Shuffling the spell in would have shortened the text, made it simpler, and removed the "counter target spell" part everyone's fixating on. If they wanted less shuffling, remove it from some other spell.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
EDIT: It also reinforces the argument that a simple "Counter target spell you don't control" would have achieved a better result with way less text on the card.
This will replace the Pyro blast.
Do you count Chaos Warp as a polymorph spell? Also, Blessed Reincarnation is a card
I'm just still angry at the useless random milling part that accomplishes nothing
Turn 2 Taigam's Scheming to arrange the top 5 cards of your library in just the right order.
Turn 3 won't even need a land drop--any 0-cmc or 1-cmc spell will do, Tibalt's Trickery your own spell, then mill/exile down to the Ulamog you tucked away, exile your opponent's two lands, then accept their scoop.
The mill/exile is probably to prevent abuse like this, but you know someone somewhere will find a way to manage to abuse it.
Sure, I know why they did that, but it's still a bad way to do it IMO. Just either shuffle or restrict it to opponent's spells only. They did it this way to prevent abuse and it appears that it can still be abused, which makes it even worse because now the card feels complicated for no reason.
I hear you. At least this card isn't Felidar Guardian broken or how Hostage Taker could have been broken if you read its original text at face value--if you read the card literally it can target itself.