This guy seems BANANAS an aggressively costed body in my opinion. but that second ability, noticing that it doesn't say "only on your turn" resolve this guy, at their EOT...fill your yard while fishing for moodmark painter, draw, pump, swing, win. Or get some Nacrombeas to go off with Golgari shaman. I think that Golgari is going to be the most interesting guild of the set. Any opinions? I knind of hope no one else thinks this guy is as good as I do so I can get him for cheap.
Also, we live in a Llannowar elves format...everything cost 1 less...
I think sultai is likely the early shell for this card. A midrange deck with jadelight ranger carnage tyrant this guy removal maybe light permission could be a good place to start
Feels like a definite violation of the color pie. The best power/toughness for Black demons without downsides is 5/4 (Archfiend of Depravity and Archfiend of Ifnir). If 3BB gets you 6/6 Flying Trample, then 3GG should be getting you 8/8 Trample Vigilance or some such nonsense.
And this card is no mere fatty. With lifegain (Gnaw to the Bone says hi) you can just start milling yourself ad infinitum. That's a lot of free combo potential stapled onto the card for free.
OP, this card won't be all too expensive so I don't think you have to worry about that. I think the card prices are going to be pretty flat for this set, with Trophy and the shocklands taking up a lot of the value of a box.
Well, 3GG did get us an 8/8 trample with options, but this really does seem like it's been pushed too far for black, especially lacking any sort of drawback typical of the strong demons.
Strong disagree @Demonologo. Power/Toughness of creatures is a part of the color pie. White/Green get the biggest creatures early, and Green gets the biggest creatures late. Black gets to cheat by accessing other parts of the color pie with drawbacks (e.g. paying life or sacrificing creatures to draw cards; getting overstatted creatures with a downside). There's no cheating going on here. It's just a 6/6 Flying Trampler with major upside for 3BB.
@saneatali I forgot about Verdurous Gearhulk. Nice catch! That card felt pushed too, and at least it was being pushed in a "green" way. One of the few cards I'll miss at rotation, but I think I'll be trying my hand at W Midrange or Wg Midrange after rotation.
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I'm still expecting players to lose the game from using the -2 life to surveil. We're in a format where shocks exist and Orzhov hasn't been released yet to help negate the life loss.
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2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
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Nightmare Demon
6/6
Flying, Trample
Pay 2 life, surveil 2
This guy seems BANANAS an aggressively costed body in my opinion. but that second ability, noticing that it doesn't say "only on your turn" resolve this guy, at their EOT...fill your yard while fishing for moodmark painter, draw, pump, swing, win. Or get some Nacrombeas to go off with Golgari shaman. I think that Golgari is going to be the most interesting guild of the set. Any opinions? I knind of hope no one else thinks this guy is as good as I do so I can get him for cheap.
Also, we live in a Llannowar elves format...everything cost 1 less...
And this card is no mere fatty. With lifegain (Gnaw to the Bone says hi) you can just start milling yourself ad infinitum. That's a lot of free combo potential stapled onto the card for free.
OP, this card won't be all too expensive so I don't think you have to worry about that. I think the card prices are going to be pretty flat for this set, with Trophy and the shocklands taking up a lot of the value of a box.
@saneatali I forgot about Verdurous Gearhulk. Nice catch! That card felt pushed too, and at least it was being pushed in a "green" way. One of the few cards I'll miss at rotation, but I think I'll be trying my hand at W Midrange or Wg Midrange after rotation.
Green did get Vine Mare
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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