Should i use the HARD KIND as sleeves? my deck is gonna be pretty expensive and im wonderign if i should, cuz they protect really well.....
No. Top loaders are not meant to be sleeves for several good reasons: they stack way too tall and they can't be shuffled reasonably. If you use the deck at any sanctioned event, you will not be able to play the deck like that.
If you're concerned about the cost of your deck, just get good sleeves. I recommend KMC or dragon shield sleeves, and I recommend double sleeving them. We actually have a thread for entirely for this topic, too, located here.
I remember this guy who had a deck 'sleeved' in top loaders. He kept it in a ziploc bag and to shuffle it, he would just shake it up. Obviously, that doesn't fly at most events.
Double-sleeving (perfect fit sleeves inside standard sleeves) is usually fine for protecting cards. If you're particularly paranoid, KMC makes "character guard" sleeves which fit around standard sleeves, which would allow you to triple-sleeve a deck.
If your deck is that precious to you to the point where you feel the need to use hard top loaders, then you really shouldn't be playing with them at all. Use proxies.
If your deck is that precious to you to the point where you feel the need to use hard top loaders, then you really shouldn't be playing with them at all. Use proxies.
Except that proxies are either ugly and confusing as hell (if you copy neither the art nor the frame nor the text) or illegal.
Except that proxies are either ugly and confusing as hell (if you copy neither the art nor the frame nor the text) or illegal.
1) Make good proxies if playing casually and if they are allowed.
2) Double Sleeve if proxies are not allowed. 3) Use hard top loaders for your entire deck.
No. Top loaders are not meant to be sleeves for several good reasons: they stack way too tall and they can't be shuffled reasonably. If you use the deck at any sanctioned event, you will not be able to play the deck like that.
If you're concerned about the cost of your deck, just get good sleeves. I recommend KMC or dragon shield sleeves, and I recommend double sleeving them. We actually have a thread for entirely for this topic, too, located here.
I remember this guy who had a deck 'sleeved' in top loaders. He kept it in a ziploc bag and to shuffle it, he would just shake it up. Obviously, that doesn't fly at most events.
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If your deck is that precious to you to the point where you feel the need to use hard top loaders, then you really shouldn't be playing with them at all. Use proxies.
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Except that proxies are either ugly and confusing as hell (if you copy neither the art nor the frame nor the text) or illegal.
1) Make good proxies if playing casually and if they are allowed.
2) Double Sleeve if proxies are not allowed.
3) Use hard top loaders for your entire deck.Pick one.
Where is the confusion?
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Probably still to thick to play with, but it could be an option.