I want your
1x Foil Primeval Titan
1x primeval Titan
1x Green Sun's Zenith
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Unless it would be better to save Foil Primeval Titan for a really high want, like TarmoGoyf. But I like this trade, even though I'm not sure what deck I'll be using Scalding Tarns for yet
The other trade I had involving Foil Primeval was
My
Foil Primeval
Sword of W&P
for
3x Primevals
Karn
2x Sheoldred, Whispering one
I think I like the trade above this is better, though...unless you think Primeval Titans are gonna hit $25 on sites other than SCG.com
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Lastly, I'm considering this, but I don't know if I want to get rid of too many of my staple eternal lands. However, the Geists are really tempting, since I'm thinking of using them for a deck...Not sure if it would be better to wait and get them a bit cheaper though.
How about this:
- 1 Geist of Saint Traft
- 1 foil Geist of Saint Traft
- 1 Moorland Haunt
- 1 promo foil Glissa, the Traitor
It seems like a good deal value-wise, but then I saw V. Tutor is banned in Legacy and Restricted in other formats, meaning I would probably never use it. But, I'm wondering if it would still make good trade bait, or be hard to move?
Thanks for any thoughts on these trades! I think I'm getting better at this evaluation thing, but I'm always happy to get a second opinion!
for
Hallowed Fountain
Inkmoth Nexus
Moorland Haunt
I like the side with the lands. Especially since Primeval is either rotating or being reprinted soon (My money is on rotating). I've unloaded any of them I had and plan to get them again post rotation. That said... I'd try to get the garruk back in there over the monolith. Reserved list cards are always nice...
I want your
1x Foil Primeval Titan
1x primeval Titan
1x Green Sun's Zenith
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This one isn't a bad deal but I might want to keep the foil titan. He's always going to be sought after by EDHers and they love their pimp. That said currently him for 3x tarn isn't bad and removing those cards from the trade I like it (for you) mainly because if tokens takes off ratchet bomb could see a nice jump. Long term the GSZ and Titan might do better though.
Geist is a standard all star right now so I'd probably snap up pile A and then retrade them for more later. The foil alone goes for $30-$40 on ebay. That said I think the onslaught fetches are going to be reprinted in the near future and that's a big part of why I like this trade for you. Others will likely disagree.
Take the tutor. WCE is awesome but should dip on rotation. Vampiric Tutor is very stable and a great card. At the very least he is legal in EDH and used there in almost every black deck.
3x Taiga Revised Ex
3x Arid Mesa NM
2x Verdant Catacombs NM-
1x Force of Will NM-
$100 cash
The 4x Tarmo is about $300ish... So take off the 100 cash (which is always better than cards) and we got $200 left.
3x Taiga Revised Ex $135 ish
3x Arid Mesa NM $22 ish
2x Verdant Catacombs NM- $15ish
1x Force of Will NM- $55ish
Total = $227.
So pretty fair I'd say with B in the lead. Even if it wasn't in the lead though I'd take pile B. The duals aren't getting reprinted and you get some solid fetches and a FOW (not to mention the cash). I think Tarmogoyf will be printed in some manner again (even if not in standard) if WOTC can be trusted that they want to keep Modern reasonable and will reprint it's staples.
Revised deal. Is this more balanced?
A:
Tarmogoyf x4
Grim Tutor
Grave Titan
Hymn to Tourach x12
B:
Tolarian Academy
foil Vedalken Shackles
foil Morphling
Prerelease Stone-Tongue Basilisk x3
Time Spiral
(foil)Sol Ring (DCI)
(foil)Steam Vents
(foil)Scalding Tarns
(foil)Maze of Ith
(FBB)Sol Ring
(foil)Academy Ruins
Revised deal. Is this more balanced?
A:
Tarmogoyf x4
Grim Tutor
Grave Titan
Hymn to Tourach x12
B:
Tolarian Academy
foil Vedalken Shackles
foil Morphling
Prerelease Stone-Tongue Basilisk x3
Time Spiral
(foil)Sol Ring (DCI)
(foil)Steam Vents
(foil)Scalding Tarns
(foil)Maze of Ith
(FBB)Sol Ring
(foil)Academy Ruins
The person receiving pile B is still down by about 30$ I believe.
I really don't like this trade in general.
Tarmogoyf is basically the most liquid card after Duals and FoW, especially now that we're entering modern PTQ season. Given that, you're effectively giving cash for a pile of what amounts to niche EDH/Casual Pimp stuff at best.
Maze/Sol ring will both be difficult to trade away in the long run, and while they're cool, I'd still rather be holding onto the Goyfs/Grim Tutor at the end of the day.
If I were to make a trade even close to that, I would want to be up at least 40$ in good solid value (Not < 10$ Cards) trading the Goyfs/Tutor away.
His
2x Noble Hierarch
2x Liliana Vess
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
2x Leyline of the Void
Seemed pretty fair, or rather close at least. In liquidity i assume Forces are easier to get rid off, but i needed the Hierarchs so
Did you mean 1 force of will? Heirarchs and the vesses and everything on that side add up to around 55 or one force of will...not 2. Id take the 2 forces anyday.
B:
Snapcaster Mage
Sword of Fire and Ice (Slightly Played)
My concern is mostly long term value.
I would take B in a heartbeat. Yes sorin was around 55 yesterday but give him a few weeks and redemption time. He'll drop to around 35$ at best. Given that info, you made out like a bandit!
A on the first, B on the second. I just like Ohran Viper and BBE though. B could be better on the first because of Modern stuff. The second's clearly B though, no contest.
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While i did mean 2x Force of Will, i ment, 2x Liliana of the Veil xD!
2x Force of Will - Ex+
His
2x Noble Hierarch
2x Liliana of the Veil
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
2x Leyline of the Void
also
1x Force of Will - EX-
for
1x Savannah
Force is a little bit more than Savannah, but if you don't need the Force and the Savannah is mint, I could see it.
In the first trade, 2 Forces is still worth more. I'd generously value Nobles at 20 and Lilianas at 30 (these are very high numbers for these cards right now) and Pile B still doesn't get there. 2 Forces is like 130-150ish and Pile B adds up to between 100 and 110, definitely no more. EDIT checked Ebay, the VERY low end on Forces (~50-55) makes this trade almost acceptable ... but I'm pretty sure I'd still want a little more in Pile B before I made this trade.
Force is a little bit more than Savannah, but if you don't need the Force and the Savannah is mint, I could see it.
In the first trade, 2 Forces is still worth more. I'd generously value Nobles at 20 and Lilianas at 30 (these are very high numbers for these cards right now) and Pile B still doesn't get there. 2 Forces is like 130-150ish and Pile B adds up to between 100 and 110, definitely no more. EDIT checked Ebay, the VERY low end on Forces (~50-55) makes this trade almost acceptable ... but I'm pretty sure I'd still want a little more in Pile B before I made this trade.
You are overvaluing FoW quite a bit...they should each be in the ~$45 range. That being said, I'd still take the Forces over pile B in the first trade. The second could go either way for me, but I'd probably take the Savannah. A Dual is a Dual (and Maverick is a thing), so it's not like people won't use it...plus, I trust its value to hold up over the long run better than FoW.
This maybe the wrong forum and I apologize if it is. But what do you think. I opened a foil Sorin at the prerelease and some guy is either willing to give me to regular sorin's, or a goyf, what would you take?
This maybe the wrong forum and I apologize if it is. But what do you think. I opened a foil Sorin at the prerelease and some guy is either willing to give me to regular sorin's, or a goyf, what would you take?
Yeah, Goyf no question! You have a good chance to open more Sorins or find one in someone's binder, a lot better than your odds of finding a Goyf.
B generally. I love me some Liliana, but unless I'm flipping it right away I'd rather have snappie. The only way snapcaster is going down is if it gets banned in something. Liliana will likely fluctuate all over the place.
Coming here once again for advice. Sorry to post here so much, I just want to make certain I'm making wise decisions for future trading.
Here's my latest batch of offers I'm considering.
This one I've all but agreed to, since I basically offered it.
My
Grim Monolith (or Garruk, Primal Hunter...he chose Monolith)
Primeval Titan
FNM MullDrifter
for
Hallowed Fountain
Inkmoth Nexus
Moorland Haunt
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This offer I just got, and I think it's a good deal.
3x Scalding Tarn
1x Ratchet Bomb
1x Karn Liberated
1x Birthing Pod
1x Darkslick Shores
I want your
1x Foil Primeval Titan
1x primeval Titan
1x Green Sun's Zenith
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Unless it would be better to save Foil Primeval Titan for a really high want, like TarmoGoyf. But I like this trade, even though I'm not sure what deck I'll be using Scalding Tarns for yet
The other trade I had involving Foil Primeval was
My
Foil Primeval
Sword of W&P
for
3x Primevals
Karn
2x Sheoldred, Whispering one
I think I like the trade above this is better, though...unless you think Primeval Titans are gonna hit $25 on sites other than SCG.com
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Lastly, I'm considering this, but I don't know if I want to get rid of too many of my staple eternal lands. However, the Geists are really tempting, since I'm thinking of using them for a deck...Not sure if it would be better to wait and get them a bit cheaper though.
How about this:
- 1 Geist of Saint Traft
- 1 foil Geist of Saint Traft
- 1 Moorland Haunt
- 1 promo foil Glissa, the Traitor
...for...
- 1 Ancient Tomb
- 1 Flooded Strand
- 1 Marsh Flats
- 1 Verdant Catacombs
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Lastly, someone offered
6th Ed. Vampiric Tutor
for my
WurmCoil Engine.
It seems like a good deal value-wise, but then I saw V. Tutor is banned in Legacy and Restricted in other formats, meaning I would probably never use it. But, I'm wondering if it would still make good trade bait, or be hard to move?
Thanks for any thoughts on these trades! I think I'm getting better at this evaluation thing, but I'm always happy to get a second opinion!
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478
I like the side with the lands. Especially since Primeval is either rotating or being reprinted soon (My money is on rotating). I've unloaded any of them I had and plan to get them again post rotation. That said... I'd try to get the garruk back in there over the monolith. Reserved list cards are always nice...
This one isn't a bad deal but I might want to keep the foil titan. He's always going to be sought after by EDHers and they love their pimp. That said currently him for 3x tarn isn't bad and removing those cards from the trade I like it (for you) mainly because if tokens takes off ratchet bomb could see a nice jump. Long term the GSZ and Titan might do better though.
I like the other trade more too... don't do this one.
Geist is a standard all star right now so I'd probably snap up pile A and then retrade them for more later. The foil alone goes for $30-$40 on ebay. That said I think the onslaught fetches are going to be reprinted in the near future and that's a big part of why I like this trade for you. Others will likely disagree.
Take the tutor. WCE is awesome but should dip on rotation. Vampiric Tutor is very stable and a great card. At the very least he is legal in EDH and used there in almost every black deck.
4x Tarmogoyf Ex-
B
3x Taiga Revised Ex
3x Arid Mesa NM
2x Verdant Catacombs NM-
1x Force of Will NM-
$100 cash
The 4x Tarmo is about $300ish... So take off the 100 cash (which is always better than cards) and we got $200 left.
3x Taiga Revised Ex $135 ish
3x Arid Mesa NM $22 ish
2x Verdant Catacombs NM- $15ish
1x Force of Will NM- $55ish
Total = $227.
So pretty fair I'd say with B in the lead. Even if it wasn't in the lead though I'd take pile B. The duals aren't getting reprinted and you get some solid fetches and a FOW (not to mention the cash). I think Tarmogoyf will be printed in some manner again (even if not in standard) if WOTC can be trusted that they want to keep Modern reasonable and will reprint it's staples.
2x Force of Will - Ex+
His
2x Noble Hierarch
2x Liliana Vess
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
2x Leyline of the Void
Seemed pretty fair, or rather close at least. In liquidity i assume Forces are easier to get rid off, but i needed the Hierarchs so
You mean 1 Force of Will right?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=487991
My Sell List:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=10893911#post10893911
A:
Tarmogoyf x4
Grim Tutor
Grave Titan
Hymn to Tourach x12
B:
Tolarian Academy
foil Vedalken Shackles
foil Morphling
Prerelease Stone-Tongue Basilisk x3
Time Spiral
(foil)Sol Ring (DCI)
(foil)Steam Vents
(foil)Scalding Tarns
(foil)Maze of Ith
(FBB)Sol Ring
(foil)Academy Ruins
I collect pre-release Stone-Tongue Basilisk
The person receiving pile B is still down by about 30$ I believe.
I really don't like this trade in general.
Tarmogoyf is basically the most liquid card after Duals and FoW, especially now that we're entering modern PTQ season. Given that, you're effectively giving cash for a pile of what amounts to niche EDH/Casual Pimp stuff at best.
Maze/Sol ring will both be difficult to trade away in the long run, and while they're cool, I'd still rather be holding onto the Goyfs/Grim Tutor at the end of the day.
If I were to make a trade even close to that, I would want to be up at least 40$ in good solid value (Not < 10$ Cards) trading the Goyfs/Tutor away.
Legacy Decks:
Legendary Maverick GW
A:
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
B:
Snapcaster Mage
Sword of Fire and Ice (Slightly Played)
My concern is mostly long term value.
Id snap take B. 100$ cash is great and then the cards put it well over the value of the goyfs.
Did you mean 1 force of will? Heirarchs and the vesses and everything on that side add up to around 55 or one force of will...not 2. Id take the 2 forces anyday.
I would take B in a heartbeat. Yes sorin was around 55 yesterday but give him a few weeks and redemption time. He'll drop to around 35$ at best. Given that info, you made out like a bandit!
Wanted Card List: (PM me)
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1 Ravages of War
1 Swords to Plowshares (Judge)
1 Land Tax (Judge)
U
1 Mana Vortex
B
1 Desolation Angel (Foil)
1 Guardian Beast
1 Contamination
R
1 Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
G
1 Food Chain
WUBRG
1 Rohgahh of Kher Keep
X
1 Charcoal Diamond (Foil)
1 Fellwar Stone (Foil)
T
1 Temple Garden (Foil)
3 Mutavault
1 Kor Haven
2x Force of Will - Ex+
His
2x Noble Hierarch
2x Liliana of the Veil
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
2x Leyline of the Void
also
1x Force of Will - EX-
for
1x Savannah
Orhan Viper(foil)
Sanguine Bond
3x Bloodbraid Elf
Heartless Summoning
Woodland Cemetry
Pile B
Grand Abolisher
Stonehewer Giant
Chord of Calling
2x Door of Destinies
Mentor of the Meek
Beacon of Unrest
Verdant Force
Pile A:
Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
2x Vorapedes
Verdant Catacombs
Pile B:
Sword of Feast and Famine
Snapcaster Mage
Vigor(foil)
EDH: Xenagos, God of Revels.
A on the first, B on the second. I just like Ohran Viper and BBE though. B could be better on the first because of Modern stuff. The second's clearly B though, no contest.
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Force is a little bit more than Savannah, but if you don't need the Force and the Savannah is mint, I could see it.
In the first trade, 2 Forces is still worth more. I'd generously value Nobles at 20 and Lilianas at 30 (these are very high numbers for these cards right now) and Pile B still doesn't get there. 2 Forces is like 130-150ish and Pile B adds up to between 100 and 110, definitely no more. EDIT checked Ebay, the VERY low end on Forces (~50-55) makes this trade almost acceptable ... but I'm pretty sure I'd still want a little more in Pile B before I made this trade.
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You are overvaluing FoW quite a bit...they should each be in the ~$45 range. That being said, I'd still take the Forces over pile B in the first trade. The second could go either way for me, but I'd probably take the Savannah. A Dual is a Dual (and Maverick is a thing), so it's not like people won't use it...plus, I trust its value to hold up over the long run better than FoW.
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sorin will drop. give it a few weeks, or at worst wait until he rotates. he'll tank.
Yeah, Goyf no question! You have a good chance to open more Sorins or find one in someone's binder, a lot better than your odds of finding a Goyf.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=409478
Pile B: Snapcaster Mage and Gravepact
Any thoughts?
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I'm really, really surprised by this. Can you link me to ANY FoW being sold online for this price? The lowest I saw on Ebay was 50.
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