I'm no dummy. This list is far from optimal. Basically, it should function like a turbofog deck, using damage from Seizan and the enchantments to kill the opponent (Hence the inclusion of Darkness) while defending itself via Darkness and lifegain.
Dash Hopes is in here as a 2 mana for 5 damage spell or a nifty counterspell. Mind Shatter may be better than Mind Sludge, I guess.
Just thought I'd post on the boards for advice and such. And please, don't suggest Teferi's Puzzle Box. That's not very original.
I think Teferi's puzzle box would be fine, I've certainly never seen it used like this before so it may not be your own creation but it's still interesting.
Have you considered adding white? While it gives you access to a bunch of fog effects (4 is not enough for a deck that runs like Turbo Fog) but most importantly it gives you access to Batwing Brume and better wrath effects than Mutilate. Technically you have access to it now, but it becomes awesome in WB.
Sezian doesn't seem like enough draw effects, this is compounded by the fact that he can't be stacked. Would you be willing to add Howlng Mine and/or Ebony Owl Netsuke?
Mind Sludge seems like it wouldn't pull its weight. Sure it will make them discard a lot, but with you making them draw extra cards the next turn it seems counterproductive.
I'll think of more later, I do have to say that the idea is quite interesting.
Hmmm...-murder, +unmake. Strictly and irrevocably superior in this deck for a cmc 3 removal spell. Personally, I might even consider gatekeeper of malakir for the same reason.
It is an interesting deck, but your bane will be creatures on the early side, and maybe even control decks. You could consider early discard for the control decks and early removal for the creatures. Your biggest trouble is the simple fact that you are slower than molasses in January. Inquisition of kozilek will keep early creatures off your back while simultaneously hitting early counters. If you want to focus more on control decks, then how about a land destruction package? Fulminator mage and rain of tears are both in modern, as is smallpox (an evil thing to do in this sort of deck!)
Not in love with this deck. Seems like you are going in two different directions. The sludges should probably be damnation. Thatll up your sweeper count. Then you need some mana production. Mind stone is probably best. That way you can sweep turn 3. The control and combos look very hard. Suggest finding room for iok or something like it. Add more in the sb to drasticly improve the matches that they are good and remove some creature kill. Put needles in the board to name pod, mite, and pws... Lavamancer is a good word to say when you cast then sometimes as well.
The prevert is a beating though, but in this list? Not so much. Reason being that you only have 4 dudes and they have 8 to 10 removals. You have to be carefull when you cast him. I wouldnt think youll get more than 1 shot effect if they are tapped out. Path and counters will eat him alive.
That list looks a lot better. Still may not be needing the prevered one. Walls really wont help him stay on the board. Could be another control card. Not certain that would help or not. Have to playtest with it. Im sure if he is allowed to stay that you will be in great shape. After you have underworld out you just pay 5 mana for a discard and rampant growth though, a lot of the times.
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Basically, I'm trying to build a deck around Seizan, Perverter of Truth, Underworld Dreams, and Spiteful Visions.
I've been testing a mono-black version:
23 Swamp
Creatures (4)
4 Seizan, Perverter of Truth
Enchantments (8)
4 Underworld Dreams
4 Spiteful Visions
4 Dash Hopes
4 Consume Spirit
4 Tendrils of Corruption
4 Darkness
3 Murder
3 Mutilate
3 Mind Sludge
I'm no dummy. This list is far from optimal. Basically, it should function like a turbofog deck, using damage from Seizan and the enchantments to kill the opponent (Hence the inclusion of Darkness) while defending itself via Darkness and lifegain.
Dash Hopes is in here as a 2 mana for 5 damage spell or a nifty counterspell.
Mind Shatter may be better than Mind Sludge, I guess.
Just thought I'd post on the boards for advice and such. And please, don't suggest Teferi's Puzzle Box. That's not very original.
Have you considered adding white? While it gives you access to a bunch of fog effects (4 is not enough for a deck that runs like Turbo Fog) but most importantly it gives you access to Batwing Brume and better wrath effects than Mutilate. Technically you have access to it now, but it becomes awesome in WB.
Sezian doesn't seem like enough draw effects, this is compounded by the fact that he can't be stacked. Would you be willing to add Howlng Mine and/or Ebony Owl Netsuke?
Mind Sludge seems like it wouldn't pull its weight. Sure it will make them discard a lot, but with you making them draw extra cards the next turn it seems counterproductive.
I'll think of more later, I do have to say that the idea is quite interesting.
It is an interesting deck, but your bane will be creatures on the early side, and maybe even control decks. You could consider early discard for the control decks and early removal for the creatures. Your biggest trouble is the simple fact that you are slower than molasses in January. Inquisition of kozilek will keep early creatures off your back while simultaneously hitting early counters. If you want to focus more on control decks, then how about a land destruction package? Fulminator mage and rain of tears are both in modern, as is smallpox (an evil thing to do in this sort of deck!)
Credit to DolZero for this awesome sig!
The prevert is a beating though, but in this list? Not so much. Reason being that you only have 4 dudes and they have 8 to 10 removals. You have to be carefull when you cast him. I wouldnt think youll get more than 1 shot effect if they are tapped out. Path and counters will eat him alive.
Current list:
13 Swamp
4 Godless Shrine
4 Isolated Chapel
3 Plains
Creatures (7)
4 Seizan, Perverter of Truth
3 Wall of Omens
Enchantments (11)
4 Underworld Dreams
4 Spiteful Visions
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Unmake
3 Damnation
3 Darkness
3 Batwing Brume
3 Lingering Souls
2 Unburial Rites
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
3 Torpor Orb
3 Pithing Needle
3 Disenchant
3 Rain of Tears