First I saw Ideas Unbound, then I found that people had already stuck them in their Pyromancer Ascension decks.
Faithless Looting will probably be as good as--maybe a little better than--Ideas Unbound. It's pure card disadvantage (you will always be down a card afterward, even after you flash it back), but it's powerful dig. It's also in a colour that doesn't typically get this dig.
First I saw Ideas Unbound, then I found that people had already stuck them in their Pyromancer Ascension decks.
Faithless Looting will probably be as good as--maybe a little better than--Ideas Unbound. It's pure card disadvantage (you will always be down a card afterward, even after you flash it back), but it's powerful dig. It's also in a colour that doesn't typically get this dig.
yeah. I think people are a bit nuts over Fl. It might be decent, but we probably have better options should storm or pyro decks ever become good enough again.
FL is pretty cool with punishing fire though I will give you that OP. It is similar to how jund uses it with the new liliana.
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huh? This makes dredge viable. This and burning inquiry makes dredge possible again. only banning the bridge will keep it gone.
You have no real sacrifice outlets outside of running 4 Viscera Seer and you can't just get a ton of tokens and then reanimate zealot for haste.
Dredge is pretty bad right now, Dread Return being gone kills it.
But no, I see this more making a more pure Reanimator much more viable. Being red helps, too since it opens up the reanimator-esque Through the Breach play.
Turn 2 Pentad Prism turn 3 Through the Breach with an Emrakul or Kozilek is pretty harsh.
I don't think dredge could work. A pseudo-dredge that relies not so much on Bridge from Below but on "fair" graveyard effects like Gnaw to the Bone might exist, but it's doubtful. Dredge like Legacy dredge, mostly manaless and so on, relies too much on Cabal Therapy.
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is the basic deck that I'm working with. needs a way to give instant haste, but I think rav has something to cover it.
I know no decks and no speculation, but this is just to show you that 1 set or even 1 card changes everything.
I am pretty sure you're trying to troll us. This deck is nowhere near good or format-breaking. You will literally do nothing all game, and half of your cards make no sense. Mox Opal? Greater Gargadon? Memnite? Come on now.
A reanimator shell could be possible, though. Unburial Rites is easily the most powerful spell of that sort in the format, and you likely want Blue, so this could just be a solid enabler for Grixis/4-color Reanimator.
I know. second and third turn wins suck in modern. Still the card could have some potential.
I think i have a higher chance getting struck by lightning on a clear day.
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Anyways, you dont think RDW could use the toss two land gain some gas?
Who is too say that you will get gas? Adding in stuff like that either slows you down or it dilutes your threat density. This is why aggro decks don't run card draw that isn't aggressive.(bob)
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I once tried out UR Tempo in Legacy, with 4 Brainstorm, 4 Ponder, 4 Delver of Secrets, 4 Snapcaster Mage, 4 Force of Will, and a burn suite (and 3 Grim Lavamancer), then I got a hand with 3 lands, 2 Brainstorms, a Ponder, and a Force of Will and realized I needed to stick more counterspells in my deck in case situations like that ever happened again.
Draw-fixing cantrips, no matter how awesome they are, reduce threat density.
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I play b/r pyromancer and proxied them in and I've been getting great results. As it was stated before, filtering out lands that aren't necessary can be vital. It also speeds up the quest counters so much. I don't play u/r but I would assume they would get the same results. I can see tempo decks using this, not a full playset but at least 2.
Gravecrawler just might finally make Zombie Tribal a deck--or it could fizzle like Champion of the Parish. At the very least, it's wonky, cheaper Bloodghasts 5-8.
Gather the Townfolk looks like a wonky version of Raise the Alarm that, however, makes even more tokens if Tokens.dec is in trouble.
Also, there has to be a use for Thraben Doomsayer's ability to churn out the tokens (and potentially pump them if the team's in trouble).
Increasing Confusion looks like the start of a rare cycle MaRo refers to in his article.
Also, Undying and Fateful Hour look very promising as new keywords. I look forward to seeing how competitive cards with Undying can get and how helpful cards with Fateful Hour will be against aggro. (At least Fateful Hour triggers when you're not within Bolt range, but it's still within Tribal Flames range...)
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Then I changed my pants. Anyone agree?
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Faithless Looting will probably be as good as--maybe a little better than--Ideas Unbound. It's pure card disadvantage (you will always be down a card afterward, even after you flash it back), but it's powerful dig. It's also in a colour that doesn't typically get this dig.
yeah. I think people are a bit nuts over Fl. It might be decent, but we probably have better options should storm or pyro decks ever become good enough again.
FL is pretty cool with punishing fire though I will give you that OP. It is similar to how jund uses it with the new liliana.
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It wants to dump things for quest counters anyway.
dredge iz dead. No reanimation no fun.
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huh? This makes dredge viable. This and burning inquiry makes dredge possible again. only banning the bridge will keep it gone.
You have no real sacrifice outlets outside of running 4 Viscera Seer and you can't just get a ton of tokens and then reanimate zealot for haste.
Dredge is pretty bad right now, Dread Return being gone kills it.
But no, I see this more making a more pure Reanimator much more viable. Being red helps, too since it opens up the reanimator-esque Through the Breach play.
Turn 2 Pentad Prism turn 3 Through the Breach with an Emrakul or Kozilek is pretty harsh.
Dredge isn't viable in Modern.
No Dread Return, no Grave Troll, none of the great cards from before 8th edition.
I am pretty sure you're trying to troll us. This deck is nowhere near good or format-breaking. You will literally do nothing all game, and half of your cards make no sense. Mox Opal? Greater Gargadon? Memnite? Come on now.
A reanimator shell could be possible, though. Unburial Rites is easily the most powerful spell of that sort in the format, and you likely want Blue, so this could just be a solid enabler for Grixis/4-color Reanimator.
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actually you do. http://www.lightningsafety.noaa.gov/outdoors.htm
bolts from the blue.
Anyways, you dont think RDW could use the toss two land gain some gas?
Who is too say that you will get gas? Adding in stuff like that either slows you down or it dilutes your threat density. This is why aggro decks don't run card draw that isn't aggressive.(bob)
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Draw-fixing cantrips, no matter how awesome they are, reduce threat density.
Still think you're trolling.
Faithless Looting will help Pyromancer's Ascension so much. It's no Ponder or Preordain, but it fills all the functions you want it to, and has double the use.
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Also, there has to be a use for Thraben Doomsayer's ability to churn out the tokens (and potentially pump them if the team's in trouble).
Increasing Confusion looks like the start of a rare cycle MaRo refers to in his article.
Also, Undying and Fateful Hour look very promising as new keywords. I look forward to seeing how competitive cards with Undying can get and how helpful cards with Fateful Hour will be against aggro. (At least Fateful Hour triggers when you're not within Bolt range, but it's still within Tribal Flames range...)
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Dude, agreed! I'll dust off my old modern stompy I made for fun when the format was just announced as well. Worth a shot, I guess.