I played standard back when Zendikar was legal to use, but once that set rotated I sold the fetchlands because I didn't think I would need them anymore. Then I played the next couple of standard seasons and finally decided to take a break shorty after Return to Ravnica
Now I am looking to get back into the game, but this time I want to give an eternal format a try, so I have my eye on modern.
So my question is would now be a good time for a new player to get into the format, or should I wait until the next reprint set? I don't want to shell out for the fetches and other staples again only for them to be released in the upcoming fall expansion.
How soon can we expect reprints again so players like me can get a jump start into this format?
I'm going to let this thread exist because its a guy asking a questions. Please no banlist knee jerk reactions, Guy is asking a question, banlist as an idea is fine to bring up, but dont vent.
Unconfirmed: a while back in Rumor Mill there was this guy saying that there will be a Modern Masters 2 and second print run of MM. Fetches will be in MM2, according to him.
Modern is a format with a lot to offer. With that said, if you can afford it, I would suggest buying into legacy. It is a more diverse format with a lot of fun interactions and a far more steady ban list. Many of the cards are either on the Reserved List (duals) or are unlikely to see significant reprint (FoW, Wasteland) which will allow their price to remain steady and likely increase.
For what it's worth, a lot of people are going to talk about the ban list for Modern as it is very volatile right now. However, keep in mind that it is a young format and will grow deeper with every new set printed which should bring more stability as time goes by. The biggest downside that I can see, from a financial point of view, is that Wizards has the ability to reprint every card in the format. This is a positive for allowing accessibility into the format, but is a negative as one cannot ever know if a card will retain its value going forward.
Overall my answer to you would be to get into Legacy, if possible, otherwise get into Modern especially if the other alternative is Standard.
In terms of waiting, now is a good time to wait for Modern. Fetches are expected to be reprinted in the next year or two, and they'll drop their prices significantly (probably 50%). There's also talk of Modern Masters 2, which will definitely reprint a ton of playable cards. Ultimately now is probably a bad time to start investing into a format that you're not already invested in.
Modern is very stable. Most people will tell you jund was becoming very very over represented, being close to 40% of the format. Wizards made a controversial call by a ban here, but they also made two un bans. Id take alot of posts with a grain of salt for a little while until the meta pans out... like when the changes actually take effect or the gp.
I left legacy because while the format was "diverse" is is rather "Play blue or play decks that beat those blue decks", and thats not for me. I was also really tired of my legacy pool of players shrinking all the college kids were playing standard cards, and legacy becoming harder and harder to get into. Underground sea was a 30 buck card 2 years ago or so, and now its higher than goyf. And it aint getting reprinted.
Modern will always be more accessable with reprints and modern masters series, not to mention the printing of modern ready event decks.
To be entirely honest, there is no way to know for certain when reprints of staples may/are going to happen. Yes, people have theories and there are hints that something will happen, but we just have zero definite idea of time frames. If you are interested in Modern, I would just go for it. Even if there are reprints, in the long run the cards will retain value anyway and even with the new copies they still will not be cheap.
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The thing with fetches though is that the time frame that makes sense is approaching. They either get reprinted in MM2 because they realized how expensive they were and how much of a deterrent they are, or they get reprinted in the block after Theros when shocks rotate so Standard is not degenerate. Any time after that just doesn't make enough sense. If they got reprinted in neither I would have little hopes for them ever reprinting them.
You kinda have to risk it.
Value the fun you'll hopefully have moreso than "if I only waited a little longer~" buyer remorse.
Or you can try and get a sort of community collection assembled wherein people loan out staples they're not currently using so that no one has to feel stung on personal investment.
Edit: adding in unbans: Wild Nacatl, Bitter Blossom, Valakut, the molten pinnacle. Give all info, not one sided.
What do unbans have to do with a player's concern about a card's price getting nerfed?
To play along, though, unbanning Nacatl, Bitterblossom, and Valakut is nothing to beat one's chest about. They shouldn't be on the Modern banned list, much like a big chunk of the list.
Just as his post doesn't have much to do with prices being nerfed, neither does yours. The cards for the most part added to the ban list were never expensive. The only exception being Green Sun's Zenith. So, nobody lost immense value in in the bans unless you were hoarding 1,000 Deathrite Shamans, and if you were then that's your own fault.
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Thanks guys. I think ill wait until the fetches get reprinted in the next block, and then once I have collected those the rest of the cards will be a piece of cake to assemble.
i just don't see any reason to play modern without the fetchlands, and i don't see any reason to buy them now since they will obviously be reprinted soon
I think there's a tension between Magic as a game and as a collector's item. As a game, I think Modern is pretty fun. The games are dynamic and interactive, and I think there's a deck for any style you like as well as reasonably competitive budget decks for some of those styles.
As a collector's item, it's more complicated. The value of cards is determined by supply, which is affected by reprints, but also by demand. One of the big factors in the price spikes of the last couple years is the expansion of the player base. If that growth continues, I don't think reprints will make a big difference in prices. As the demand grows, prices will recover over a 2-3 year window. It's also not clear how much they will reprint. Modern Masters helped decrease the cost of entry, but it's still rather substantial, and if it's a sign of the future, reprints likely won't affect the most expensive cards a great deal.
The final thing worth thinking about is the ban list. Not so much from a financial perspective, because I don't bans will impact prices to a large degree. Most cards would recover due to the popularity of Legacy, and even so, we are talking a few cards of a large pool. I think the ban list should give you some idea of what Modern will be like, and if that sounds fun to you.
So my question is would now be a good time for a new player to get into the format, or should I wait until the next reprint set? I don't want to shell out for the fetches and other staples again only for them to be released in the upcoming fall expansion.
How soon can we expect reprints again so players like me can get a jump start into this format?
So taking all that into consideration, you should weigh how much value (fun) you will get out of the game versus the risk of losing some money. I personally think prices will recover from reprints in the long term. However, they will undoubtably reprint the fetch lands at some point. Landfall was a popular mechanic, perfect for a core set, and if not in a core or expert expansion, definitely in Modern Masters 2. I think waiting until the event deck comes out is a good idea, but I personally elected to just bite the bullet. I bought in over a year or so, shopping for bargains. Then again, I value fun more than a temporary loss in the value of the cards. I also think that reprints won't come fast or frequent enough to really depress prices so it's not that much of a risk.
I would, but after they unban deathrite shaman.
I could be incorrect, but Tin fins is going to dominate the meta for some time and during that period I imagine it will be really hard to break into the format.
Even though I think that wizards made a mistake, they believed it would be in our best interest, and you can always main deck relic of progenitus.
The format just had a huge change, so you're not getting your feet wet, you'll be jumping into a raging maelstrom of all sorts of crazy *****...but to me, that sounds pretty exciting.
I would, but after they unban deathrite shaman.
I could be incorrect, but Tin fins is going to dominate the meta for some time and during that period I imagine it will be really hard to break into the format.
Even though I think that wizards made a mistake, they believed it would be in our best interest, and you can always main deck relic of progenitus.
Overall, I would get into modern.
(By the way, esper gifts wrecks!)
I don't think that it will dominate with Faeries as a restraining force in the format. However, it probably will be at least Tier 1.5.
Unfortunately, the quality of the format, the financial barrier of entry, the volatility of the secondary market, etc, are all irrelevant points without first answering the most important question: What formats(s)are played in your area? In my area, Modern had a big boom about 2 years ago and there were events all over. Then 1 by 1 shops stopped hosting them as attendance began to dry up. Eventually, after 9 months without playing a single Modern game, I took apart almost all of my decks, and began focusing on Legacy which is still super popular around here. On the other hand, I've heard people (in the Midwest mostly it seems) talk about how Legacy is dead, but Modern events near them are always packed. I also had to move for a little bit, and spent a few months in an area where no one played Modern OR Legacy, and my only option if I wanted to play was draft, built a Standard deck, or try to find a casual playgroup. So poke around before you invest in anything. Wizards has an event finder on their website, so check that out. I'd also recommend calling the shops on there and asking about attendance, and make sure that those events actually fire off regularly. Even if you don't plan on being competitive, that information will still be a good indicator of the health of the various formats in your area.
Mostly standard and draft is played in my area. I'm always told that the modern tournaments never receive enough turnout to fire
So I'll probably stick with standard for now, since the power level is more to my liking, and it is actually difficult to play more than 2 colors right now
If money is a concern, your best bet is to just wait on reprints. Rumors on fetchland reprints have suggested that it will happen in the next block, once Ravnica and its duals have rotated out of standard. While I wouldn't be shocked if this happened, I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't either. It's a crapshoot.
Personally, I find legacy much more fulfilling than modern. Modern decks tend to be "all-in" strategies or "good stuff midrange" decks with very little variety. While I do think the format has a lot of possibilities, it's also highly mismanaged. I keep 1-2 modern decks together when I need them for a tournament, but it's not a format I play for the fun of it.
As for a good time to get into the format, I don't think there's ever really a good or bad time for anyone to get into a format. Aside from the possibility of a fetch land reprint, prices aren't going down. If those are your only concern, perhaps start picking up other staples now. Cards like Snapcaster Mage, Liliana of the Veil, Birthing Pod, 'Goyf, Dark Confidant, etc. aren't going to a see a reprint in the immediate future, and their prices will only continue to rise as they continue to see extensive play in modern and legacy.
The format just had a huge change, so you're not getting your feet wet, you'll be jumping into a raging maelstrom of all sorts of crazy *****...but to me, that sounds pretty exciting.
So taking all that into consideration, you should weigh how much value (fun) you will get out of the game versus the risk of losing some money. I personally think prices will recover from reprints in the long term. However, they will undoubtably reprint the fetch lands at some point. Landfall was a popular mechanic, perfect for a core set, and if not in a core or expert expansion, definitely in Modern Masters 2. I think waiting until the event deck comes out is a good idea, but I personally elected to just bite the bullet. I bought in over a year or so, shopping for bargains. Then again, I value fun more than a temporary loss in the value of the cards. I also think that reprints won't come fast or frequent enough to really depress prices so it's not that much of a risk.
This is a great outlook and one that I share. Buying in over time is something that keeps it interesting, learning the deck and developing skill as you save away money for the core pieces. I just bought some fetches even with the full reality that they will be reprinted probably in a year or so. But honestly, when you think about it, is the $100 or so, or even taking farther 200 or even 300 worth it for the many many many hours of enjoyment and fun with friends I will get out of playing the deck? Heck yes.
In the end I think thats the message. Don't buy into a format for the money or the competitiveness. Sure those are all great, but as we just saw with the banned list changes, all that can go the way of the dodo very quickly, so buy into a deck/format that you enjoy playing for playing sake. I absolutely love playing UWr midrange, which isn't a cheap deck. But I LOVE playing it and will absolutely keep playing it even past the day that some card is printed/banned/unbanned that totally nerfs it.
Let met try to make my case to you. In all honesty, I think Modern is the most sensible format. It's actually diverse AND cheap, and every once in a while you have people brewing new and unusual decks that do surprisingly well (Worldfire decks, G/W Bougle Auras, vampires, deathcloud/gorgodon, Ninjas, soul sisters, Nivmizium combo etc). And most importantly, they're cheap too! I think this tests the potential for creative deck building, and the fact that Force of Will, Tabernacle, and other broken cards don't exist means that these smaller rouge decks have a chance to succeed. They give me reminders as to why I play magic in the first place.
My arguments against legacy has always been that it's using inherently unbalanced cards from before the game was balanced. It discomforts me to know that cards like JTMS, Brainstorm, Counterspell, Wasteland and Force of Will exist and quite frankly, I think it's a breach of good game design. Additionally, I don't want to have to run blue. In legacy (or at least my experience anyway), it's not even a question as to whether or not you're running blue, and more of a question of "what blue deck are you running"? I don't like blue. The staple cards are viciously overpriced, whereas in modern, you can actually get away with not having fetchlands and goyfs and do pretty well.
Standard is something I can respect, but the rotating nature of the format forces me to keep up with it, and I don't like having to change my current deck that I've become accustomed to just so I can stay afloat. Not to mention, I know the value of my cards will shrink to 20% after they expire. I don't think standard is creative, and I don't like having to chose form a limited set of netdecked builds just so I can do well in tourneys. The 6 or so decks in standard right now don't express me as a player, and I can't quite adjust myself to liking any of them. With Modern, when you get your cards, their value is retained for life (or at least, most of them. RIP DRS).
EDH is like an eternal format as well, but for a casual format, I see a surprising number of people making it very competitive and unfun. Again, they also use vintage/legacy cards, which I disagree with the usage thereof. You have to shell out too much money to make a good edh deck, but for me I just play casually with friends because they like EDH.
Ok I think I'll give modern a try then. Luckily I have picked up a few of the shocklands from ravings right before I took a break, so I shall see what kind of deck I can construct using those.
There is even a modern event tonight, I'll see if I can build a deck before then and enter
Let met try to make my case to you. In all honesty, I think Modern is the most sensible format. It's actually diverse AND cheap, and every once in a while you have people brewing new and unusual decks that do surprisingly well (Worldfire decks, G/W Bougle Auras, vampires, deathcloud/gorgodon, Ninjas, soul sisters, Nivmizium combo etc). And most importantly, they're cheap too! I think this tests the potential for creative deck building, and the fact that Force of Will, Tabernacle, and other broken cards don't exist means that these smaller rouge decks have a chance to succeed. They give me reminders as to why I play magic in the first place.
My arguments against legacy has always been that it's using inherently unbalanced cards from before the game was balanced. It discomforts me to know that cards like JTMS, Brainstorm, Counterspell, Wasteland and Force of Will exist and quite frankly, I think it's a breach of good game design. Additionally, I don't want to have to run blue. In legacy (or at least my experience anyway), it's not even a question as to whether or not you're running blue, and more of a question of "what blue deck are you running"? I don't like blue. The staple cards are viciously overpriced, whereas in modern, you can actually get away with not having fetchlands and goyfs and do pretty well.
Have you ever played Legacy? Your post makes it seem like you are dismissing the format based on preconceptions, not experience. For starter, your examples (Force of Will, Wasteland) are the cards that stop degenerate combos and turn 1 wins. They're the cards that give "fair" decks a chance, and the fact that Modern doesn't have any equivalents is why the format has to be babysat by Wizards to keep combo decks from getting too strong, and to have their "Turn 4" rule enforced. Then there's the fact that I have literally never seen Counterspell played in a game of Legacy, and tall that card broken is laughable at best.
And if you did play Legacy, you'd see that the format is mostly new cards, not a bunch of "inherently unbalanced cards from before the game was balanced". Jace, Stoneforge, Deathrite, Batterskull, Liliana, Delver, Thalia, Ethersworn Canonist, Green Sun'z Zenith, Glimpse of Nature, everything in Affinity, True Name Nemesis, Griselbrand, Emrakul, etc, etc. Yes there are several older cards like Show & Tell and Brainstorm, but Legacy is at the point where the vast majority of the power cards wear modern borders.
I'm all for people having their preferences when it comes to formats, but making baseless remarks against formats you have no experience with isn't helpful to anyone.
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Now I am looking to get back into the game, but this time I want to give an eternal format a try, so I have my eye on modern.
So my question is would now be a good time for a new player to get into the format, or should I wait until the next reprint set? I don't want to shell out for the fetches and other staples again only for them to be released in the upcoming fall expansion.
How soon can we expect reprints again so players like me can get a jump start into this format?
I'm going to let this thread exist because its a guy asking a questions. Please no banlist knee jerk reactions, Guy is asking a question, banlist as an idea is fine to bring up, but dont vent.
Unconfirmed: a while back in Rumor Mill there was this guy saying that there will be a Modern Masters 2 and second print run of MM. Fetches will be in MM2, according to him.
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For what it's worth, a lot of people are going to talk about the ban list for Modern as it is very volatile right now. However, keep in mind that it is a young format and will grow deeper with every new set printed which should bring more stability as time goes by. The biggest downside that I can see, from a financial point of view, is that Wizards has the ability to reprint every card in the format. This is a positive for allowing accessibility into the format, but is a negative as one cannot ever know if a card will retain its value going forward.
Overall my answer to you would be to get into Legacy, if possible, otherwise get into Modern especially if the other alternative is Standard.
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I left legacy because while the format was "diverse" is is rather "Play blue or play decks that beat those blue decks", and thats not for me. I was also really tired of my legacy pool of players shrinking all the college kids were playing standard cards, and legacy becoming harder and harder to get into. Underground sea was a 30 buck card 2 years ago or so, and now its higher than goyf. And it aint getting reprinted.
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Value the fun you'll hopefully have moreso than "if I only waited a little longer~" buyer remorse.
Or you can try and get a sort of community collection assembled wherein people loan out staples they're not currently using so that no one has to feel stung on personal investment.
Just as his post doesn't have much to do with prices being nerfed, neither does yours. The cards for the most part added to the ban list were never expensive. The only exception being Green Sun's Zenith. So, nobody lost immense value in in the bans unless you were hoarding 1,000 Deathrite Shamans, and if you were then that's your own fault.
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i just don't see any reason to play modern without the fetchlands, and i don't see any reason to buy them now since they will obviously be reprinted soon
As a collector's item, it's more complicated. The value of cards is determined by supply, which is affected by reprints, but also by demand. One of the big factors in the price spikes of the last couple years is the expansion of the player base. If that growth continues, I don't think reprints will make a big difference in prices. As the demand grows, prices will recover over a 2-3 year window. It's also not clear how much they will reprint. Modern Masters helped decrease the cost of entry, but it's still rather substantial, and if it's a sign of the future, reprints likely won't affect the most expensive cards a great deal.
The final thing worth thinking about is the ban list. Not so much from a financial perspective, because I don't bans will impact prices to a large degree. Most cards would recover due to the popularity of Legacy, and even so, we are talking a few cards of a large pool. I think the ban list should give you some idea of what Modern will be like, and if that sounds fun to you.
So taking all that into consideration, you should weigh how much value (fun) you will get out of the game versus the risk of losing some money. I personally think prices will recover from reprints in the long term. However, they will undoubtably reprint the fetch lands at some point. Landfall was a popular mechanic, perfect for a core set, and if not in a core or expert expansion, definitely in Modern Masters 2. I think waiting until the event deck comes out is a good idea, but I personally elected to just bite the bullet. I bought in over a year or so, shopping for bargains. Then again, I value fun more than a temporary loss in the value of the cards. I also think that reprints won't come fast or frequent enough to really depress prices so it's not that much of a risk.
I could be incorrect, but Tin fins is going to dominate the meta for some time and during that period I imagine it will be really hard to break into the format.
Even though I think that wizards made a mistake, they believed it would be in our best interest, and you can always main deck relic of progenitus.
Overall, I would get into modern.
(By the way, esper gifts wrecks!)
The format just had a huge change, so you're not getting your feet wet, you'll be jumping into a raging maelstrom of all sorts of crazy *****...but to me, that sounds pretty exciting.
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I don't think that it will dominate with Faeries as a restraining force in the format. However, it probably will be at least Tier 1.5.
Storm Crow is strictly worse than Seacoast Drake.
So I'll probably stick with standard for now, since the power level is more to my liking, and it is actually difficult to play more than 2 colors right now
Personally, I find legacy much more fulfilling than modern. Modern decks tend to be "all-in" strategies or "good stuff midrange" decks with very little variety. While I do think the format has a lot of possibilities, it's also highly mismanaged. I keep 1-2 modern decks together when I need them for a tournament, but it's not a format I play for the fun of it.
As for a good time to get into the format, I don't think there's ever really a good or bad time for anyone to get into a format. Aside from the possibility of a fetch land reprint, prices aren't going down. If those are your only concern, perhaps start picking up other staples now. Cards like Snapcaster Mage, Liliana of the Veil, Birthing Pod, 'Goyf, Dark Confidant, etc. aren't going to a see a reprint in the immediate future, and their prices will only continue to rise as they continue to see extensive play in modern and legacy.
Standard: I, for one, welcome our new rhinoceros overlords
Modern: Pod's dead, Bob's back.
Legacy: Lands, Deathblade, Death and Taxes, Elves, MUD
Retired Legacy: Merfolk, Goblins, Jund, Delver, Reanimator
Pretty much this.
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This is a great outlook and one that I share. Buying in over time is something that keeps it interesting, learning the deck and developing skill as you save away money for the core pieces. I just bought some fetches even with the full reality that they will be reprinted probably in a year or so. But honestly, when you think about it, is the $100 or so, or even taking farther 200 or even 300 worth it for the many many many hours of enjoyment and fun with friends I will get out of playing the deck? Heck yes.
In the end I think thats the message. Don't buy into a format for the money or the competitiveness. Sure those are all great, but as we just saw with the banned list changes, all that can go the way of the dodo very quickly, so buy into a deck/format that you enjoy playing for playing sake. I absolutely love playing UWr midrange, which isn't a cheap deck. But I LOVE playing it and will absolutely keep playing it even past the day that some card is printed/banned/unbanned that totally nerfs it.
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My arguments against legacy has always been that it's using inherently unbalanced cards from before the game was balanced. It discomforts me to know that cards like JTMS, Brainstorm, Counterspell, Wasteland and Force of Will exist and quite frankly, I think it's a breach of good game design. Additionally, I don't want to have to run blue. In legacy (or at least my experience anyway), it's not even a question as to whether or not you're running blue, and more of a question of "what blue deck are you running"? I don't like blue. The staple cards are viciously overpriced, whereas in modern, you can actually get away with not having fetchlands and goyfs and do pretty well.
Standard is something I can respect, but the rotating nature of the format forces me to keep up with it, and I don't like having to change my current deck that I've become accustomed to just so I can stay afloat. Not to mention, I know the value of my cards will shrink to 20% after they expire. I don't think standard is creative, and I don't like having to chose form a limited set of netdecked builds just so I can do well in tourneys. The 6 or so decks in standard right now don't express me as a player, and I can't quite adjust myself to liking any of them. With Modern, when you get your cards, their value is retained for life (or at least, most of them. RIP DRS).
EDH is like an eternal format as well, but for a casual format, I see a surprising number of people making it very competitive and unfun. Again, they also use vintage/legacy cards, which I disagree with the usage thereof. You have to shell out too much money to make a good edh deck, but for me I just play casually with friends because they like EDH.
There is even a modern event tonight, I'll see if I can build a deck before then and enter
Have you ever played Legacy? Your post makes it seem like you are dismissing the format based on preconceptions, not experience. For starter, your examples (Force of Will, Wasteland) are the cards that stop degenerate combos and turn 1 wins. They're the cards that give "fair" decks a chance, and the fact that Modern doesn't have any equivalents is why the format has to be babysat by Wizards to keep combo decks from getting too strong, and to have their "Turn 4" rule enforced. Then there's the fact that I have literally never seen Counterspell played in a game of Legacy, and tall that card broken is laughable at best.
And if you did play Legacy, you'd see that the format is mostly new cards, not a bunch of "inherently unbalanced cards from before the game was balanced". Jace, Stoneforge, Deathrite, Batterskull, Liliana, Delver, Thalia, Ethersworn Canonist, Green Sun'z Zenith, Glimpse of Nature, everything in Affinity, True Name Nemesis, Griselbrand, Emrakul, etc, etc. Yes there are several older cards like Show & Tell and Brainstorm, but Legacy is at the point where the vast majority of the power cards wear modern borders.
I'm all for people having their preferences when it comes to formats, but making baseless remarks against formats you have no experience with isn't helpful to anyone.