I actually giggled like a school girl when I saw this card. I will have a lot of fun in EDH with it and I bet there will be a ton of people that are going to try and make this work in a more competitive format.
This will be instabanned for Commander, absolutely. The only way this will see play in some insta kill combo, which I dont see happening in any format except for one where seething song is legal. Maybe Keldon Marauders. or suspend rift bolt, even then they have a draw step. this card is super interesting tho.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
Standard:
Bident Layers B Devotion RG Devotion UW Control Modern:
Jund
UW Control
Combo Pod Legacy: DeathBlade RUG Delver BUG Control
You run oblivion rings and/or fiend hunters.
Target your own creature, preferably one with haste.
You win the turn you cast Worldfire or the turn after depending on your exiled creature.
(Haste is instant win, trample wins the following turn even if they cast Memnite or Ornithopter)
EDIT: Also I don't think it will be banned, because there are things like Jokulhaups that aren't banned. But then again this is very similar to Sway of the Stars, so... yeah.
Seems like it should go in a Grixis EDH with Jhoria. Suspend this, then breath of Malfegor.
Private Mod Note
():
Rollback Post to RevisionRollBack
For Lists, Click Here EDH: GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU. UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax RW: Gisela, Boros Control RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?! B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Oh, I thought he was talking about playing a spell that is countering a spell with counters on it as it comes into play, but I see you guys were just discussing whether he was flashing a creature with flash in order to flash a flashback or just flashing a creature with flash but not needing flash in order to flashback a spell without flash.
Honestly, this card confuses the hell out of me.
It simultaneously says "only likely to be played in EDH"
and "likely to be banned immediately in EDH".
EDIT: Also I don't think it will be banned, because there are things like Jokulhaups that aren't banned. But then again this is very similar to Sway of the Stars, so... yeah.
It would be banned for putting everyone at 1 life more than for destroying everything,
but both at the same time means it's pretty much a guaranteed ban.
If it stays Legal, Jhoira of the Ghitu decks will get a wholly unnecessary boost in power,
and it's easy enough to abuse even without her.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I have to say. This is my favorite card. When m11 was legal, i loved Destructive force. And this card reminds me of it. Sure it costs much more, but you know. Whatevr. I think that it combos well with Oblivion ring. And there are sweepers. Maybe an American control could work. but i dont know. Itll be fun to brew.
I don't really see it as a bad draw most of the time. If you draw it and drop it, it's a blatant show that you can and will take away Christmas if someone messes with you.
Decks:
Standard WRath abuse BR Burning Crawler W Puresteel Humans
EDH:
Azusa, Lost but Seeking
Zirilan of the Claw
Ghost Council of Orzhova
Rosheen, the Meanderer
Vela the Night-Clad
Jhoira: suspend Worldfire, suspend anything (Flames of the Firebrand?)
Last think Jhoira needed was a way to get rid of all potential answers in hand in addition to everything on the board.
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Koth of the Hammer yet. Of course, it can only be standard legal for a couple of months, but that's still really cool.
Any thoughts of using this with Battle Hymn are pretty far-fetched, unless you use that new goblin that doubles your goblins.
I think this'd need a spot more ramp to be really abusable, but it does make me hope for Cunning Sparkmage -- which you then O-ring/Fiend Hunter early game to get out after you Worldfire.
It's kind of a work in progress, and would need Sparkmage to be reprinted (or even Sparkmage Apprentice could do it or anything else that causes damage as an ETB effect...).
I know magic christmas land...but fun...you synchronise with Rift bolt (1 turn) or Lotus Bloom (2 turn if lucky)...unless opponent draw 1 damage for 1 mana card and a land...
Well, I am 99% sure this card will be instabanned in EDH, but is there really any other practical applications for this card?
Maybe some crazy UR Counterlash deck?
Thank Heroes of the Plane for an awesome banner!
Currently Playing:
Standard
RWBGFritesGBWR
GBBG ZombiesBG
Extended:
lolno
Gleemax shall take over the world. Go Gleemax.:D
--> float a ton of mana
--> Sneak Attack a Worldgorger Dragon
--> Cast for fun and profit
Bident Layers
B Devotion
RG Devotion
UW Control
Modern:
Jund
UW Control
Combo Pod
Legacy:
DeathBlade
RUG Delver
BUG Control
You run oblivion rings and/or fiend hunters.
Target your own creature, preferably one with haste.
You win the turn you cast Worldfire or the turn after depending on your exiled creature.
(Haste is instant win, trample wins the following turn even if they cast Memnite or Ornithopter)
EDIT: Also I don't think it will be banned, because there are things like Jokulhaups that aren't banned. But then again this is very similar to Sway of the Stars, so... yeah.
Response Activate Alchemist's Refuge, Cast Worldfire before Gutshot resolve, Game
Primeval Titan works perfectly for speeding up and searching Alchemist's Refuge from library.
I like this plan. My dream of forever playing standard decks that win with ridiculously overcosted sorceries continues!
For Lists, Click Here
EDH:
GW: Selvala, Let us help YOU.
UB: Mirko Vosk, when outmatched cheat
BW: Vish Kal, The Arbiter of Reanimation
UG: Prime Speaker Zegana, the science of sorcery
RB: Malfegor, Traitor's Haven
UW: Daxos, Control-Fort-Tron
BG: Pharika, Goddess of Stax
RW: Gisela, Boros Control
RG: Ruric Thar, a Primal Surge deck
RU: Niv-Mizzet the Firemind, Spellslinger?!?!
B:(Pauper) Mikaeus the Unhallowed
R: Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient: The Power of Engineering
Unless you can chain some sort of Infernal Plunge ,Battle Hymn ,Geosurge on early/mid game
Standard
UR Control
Modern
Merfolk
Burn
Avacyn did nothing wrong!
Purify Innistrad!
#Purge
-regarding Snapcaster Mage.
Maybe for the week or so it's legal.
Honestly, this card confuses the hell out of me.
It simultaneously says "only likely to be played in EDH"
and "likely to be banned immediately in EDH".
What are R&D smoking these days?
It would be banned for putting everyone at 1 life more than for destroying everything,
but both at the same time means it's pretty much a guaranteed ban.
If it stays Legal, Jhoira of the Ghitu decks will get a wholly unnecessary boost in power,
and it's easy enough to abuse even without her.
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary
Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
The Mimeoplasm
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Ludvic test subject.dek (top 8 at GPT)
Necrotic ooze
Werewolves
Modern
Esper Venser
Legacy
GW aggro- in the making.
Ghosly Flicker brings it back immediately, so your things will still get exiled. Misthollow Griffin, on the other hand...
Decks:
Standard
WRath abuse
BR Burning Crawler
W Puresteel Humans
EDH:
Azusa, Lost but Seeking
Zirilan of the Claw
Ghost Council of Orzhova
Rosheen, the Meanderer
Vela the Night-Clad
Last think Jhoira needed was a way to get rid of all potential answers in hand in addition to everything on the board.
Karador EDH
Comments on decks welcome: http://tappedout.net/users/AradonTemplar/
Currently developing Set 1 of 3, 'Shadow': http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=436885
Any thoughts of using this with Battle Hymn are pretty far-fetched, unless you use that new goblin that doubles your goblins.
Hmmm... maybe with Kuldotha Rebirth?
About Mindslaver rulings:
It's kind of a work in progress, and would need Sparkmage to be reprinted (or even Sparkmage Apprentice could do it or anything else that causes damage as an ETB effect...).
Misthollow Griffin is pretty useless when all of your lands are exiled.
or if you want to actually play in a format other than casual
Barren glory
also I this and greater gargadon seem like really good freinds
Modern
:rakdos::selesnya: goblins
:symr::symb::symg: Glass Cannon Griselbrand
sig made by Hakai Studios (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?p=6100225)
4 Rite of Flame
4 Mana Flare
4 Lotus Bloom
1 Expedition Map
3 Faithless Looting
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lava Spike
4 Rift Bolt
3 Fireball
1 Fireblast
18 Moutain
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 Worldfire
3 Fireblast
3 Incinerate
4 Brimstone Volley
2 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1 Shock
I know magic christmas land...but fun...you synchronise with Rift bolt (1 turn) or Lotus Bloom (2 turn if lucky)...unless opponent draw 1 damage for 1 mana card and a land...