Is it just me or has infect been falling out of favor lately? My assumption is because we only run 8 infect creatures (12 with inkmoth) and with all the cheap removal in modern, infect loses its creatures too often. I run 2 apostles and 4 vines and its still not enough to protect my guys. Im thinking of splashing black and throw in some plague stinger. Thoughts?
What would you be taking out to put in Plague Stinger? It would be subject to the same cheap removal spells for the most part as well. Maybe we need to start about thinking of how to make our creatures immune to removal spells. Stuff like Hexproof. Just a thought. I really don't feel like splashing a third color but it could open up opportunities.
Well between 4 MB vines of vastwood and 2 MB apostle's blessing and 2 MB spellskite it still doesnt seem to be enough. The other option would be to add more infect creatures, more protection spells, or do something similar to what you did with invisible stalker and maybe a splash of black for tainted strike. Thoughts?
Is it just me or has infect been falling out of favor lately? My assumption is because we only run 8 infect creatures (12 with inkmoth) and with all the cheap removal in modern, infect loses its creatures too often. I run 2 apostles and 4 vines and its still not enough to protect my guys. Im thinking of splashing black and throw in some plague stinger. Thoughts?
Hi guys. been following this thread for a long time, ive finally put infect all together and played in my first ever modern tournament.
I managed to go 3-1 in it, i think if i hadnt of tried to be so conservative in the burn match up i played against i would have 4-0d it.
I played affinity, abzan, burn (my only lose) and sultai midrange.
affinity was a straight up race, blighted agent was a boss, and turn 3, turn 4 kills went a long ways to get them done.
abzan was interesting, i feel like i unlocked an infect acheivement when i won using noble hierarch beat downs. he killed t1 elf t2 agent, my t3 hierarch was the only thing to stick so regular beat downs it was! but i was curious how people sideboard vs abzan/jund. i was at a lose for what to bring in and bring out. any suggestions would be great.
Burn i made the mistake of trying to play a longer game, i am really debating some feed the clans sideboard. but from what i hear there are a lot of burn players in my area. any tips on this match up would be greatly appreciated.
the sultai match up was by far the easiest. he successfully countered almost all my spells but an inkmoth got there both games for me.
I have a question about become immense, does anyone else feel like its the first thing you want to sideboard out? the only time i really liked it was with my noble hierarch beat downs. the rest of the time i always wished it was another pump spell cause my graveyard never filled up enough it seems (I am running 9 fetches, i dont know how to link desklists other wise i would post it up.)
anyways i got another tourney next weekend, we will see how well i do there. i do like infect, it seems like a great starting point to modern. as well if someone can link me to a decent sideboarding guide it would be greatly appreciated. sideboarding always seems to be something i struggle with.
Against Abzan and Jund Carrion call is amazing on the play. It can come out on turn 3 on with noble hierarch and guarantee we have infect creatures as they will surely remove/kill glistner elf and blighted agent with their inquisition/thoughtseize/liliana/bolt/decay/path ect... Dismember is also decent against both to take care of Goyf, Tasigur or Siege rhino if the game drags on. Dispel and spell pierce are additional options to deal with removal if your opponent is light on hand hate and heavy on spot removal.
This brings me to burn. I also have a burn deck and i can easily say that dispel and/or spellpierce would be your best bet against burn. All you need to do is counter a spell or 2 and you can finish them off faster than they kill you. Spellskite can also be useful but cards like atarka's command and destructive revelry get around it too easily. Pro tip(assuming you run 2x MB spellskite): Board out your spellskites G2 and bring in dispel/spellpierce. The opponent will bring in destructive revelry for nothing if they saw spellskite G1.
Sometimes i board out become immense depending on the matchup but il usually only take out 1. its too good and i always want to see one.
I run 2 distortion strike in mine and its won me the game more than once. People WILL put on blockers eventually and if you dont have blighted agent, you need a way to go unblocked on your glistener elf or inkmoth. Also, i love Wild defiance, every list should run at least 1 in the main. This is another card that has won me many games
If you want to find me next time, Im the guy with the fully foiled Infect deck
Im curious to see an exact mirror match, lol
Wowzers that must of cost a fortune! I dont go too often because i live off island and i only finish work at 6PM so i can't make it most of the time but im sure ill end up there on the 25th of May, got the day off so maybe ill see you there!
Ahh i see. Your list is virtually identical to mine but i dont have Hierarchs and instead of sylvan scrying i have a 4th gitaxian probe. Hopefully going to be picking up Hierarchs after MM15 drops them in price.
lol, actually this Monday I was playing my BUG Infect deck (for the last time). Played Twin and Affinity. I actually like the Twin matchups in general. I won game 1 pretty easy, and I would have won game 2 if I didnt misplay. Then game 3 went against me, and I dropped after that But if you play burn then its possible Ive played you before. We shall see! Burn is a pretty bad matchup for Infect.
Doesnt sound like we played against each other. I was against UB mill, Mono G aggro, Sultai mid-range and Zoo. I also have an infect deck but its not pimped out with Hierarchs so i decided to play burn as its my most tuned deck.
Good to know thanks for the help everyone! Hopefully with the release on MM2015, its going to drop from 75$ (local Canadian prices) to the 20-30$ price range. Also, super happy that i picked up Inkmoth when it was 9$
Standard replacement for noble is birds of paradise.
I guess thats my best option then. Can this deck even be competitive (not necessarily at the highest levels) without Hierarch? As i do like to play at LGS tourneys, but im not going to a PPTQ or a GP anytime soon.
So i have a pretty stock infect list, very similar to Kovo's list 5 posts above. The only thing is there's no way i can afford Noble Hierarch at 75$ a pop. Unless they go down to 30$ with the release of MM2015 (very unlikely), i wont be buying them. Having said that, should i replace Hierarch with Birds of paradise, Ichorclaw Myr or a different 1 drop with exalted?
Is there a reason a lot of people are completely cutting groundswell? Is it just better to run become immense? Or am i blind and a lot of people still run groundswell?
Is this deck competitive playable without Noble Hierarch? I dont have 300$ to drop on a playset of these (75$ each). My list is pretty standard i've got everything except for the Hierarchs.
This question has been answered many many times in this thread. The answer is not really.
Sorry but i dont feel like filtering through 50+ pages to find the answer
Well between 4 MB vines of vastwood and 2 MB apostle's blessing and 2 MB spellskite it still doesnt seem to be enough. The other option would be to add more infect creatures, more protection spells, or do something similar to what you did with invisible stalker and maybe a splash of black for tainted strike. Thoughts?
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I also play infect, here's my sideboard:
1x Carrion Call
2x Dismember
1x Dispel
4x Nature's Claim
2x Relic of Progenitus
1x Spell Pierce
1x Spellskite
2x Twisted Image
1x Wild Defiance
Against Abzan and Jund Carrion call is amazing on the play. It can come out on turn 3 on with noble hierarch and guarantee we have infect creatures as they will surely remove/kill glistner elf and blighted agent with their inquisition/thoughtseize/liliana/bolt/decay/path ect... Dismember is also decent against both to take care of Goyf, Tasigur or Siege rhino if the game drags on. Dispel and spell pierce are additional options to deal with removal if your opponent is light on hand hate and heavy on spot removal.
This brings me to burn. I also have a burn deck and i can easily say that dispel and/or spellpierce would be your best bet against burn. All you need to do is counter a spell or 2 and you can finish them off faster than they kill you. Spellskite can also be useful but cards like atarka's command and destructive revelry get around it too easily. Pro tip(assuming you run 2x MB spellskite): Board out your spellskites G2 and bring in dispel/spellpierce. The opponent will bring in destructive revelry for nothing if they saw spellskite G1.
Sometimes i board out become immense depending on the matchup but il usually only take out 1. its too good and i always want to see one.
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GW Abzan Company
RWG Burn
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Wowzers that must of cost a fortune! I dont go too often because i live off island and i only finish work at 6PM so i can't make it most of the time but im sure ill end up there on the 25th of May, got the day off so maybe ill see you there!
RWG Burn
GW Abzan Company
RWG Burn
GW Abzan Company
Doesnt sound like we played against each other. I was against UB mill, Mono G aggro, Sultai mid-range and Zoo. I also have an infect deck but its not pimped out with Hierarchs so i decided to play burn as its my most tuned deck.
Out of curiosity, why are you shelving infect?
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Oh snap! I was there just this monday May 11. I was playing Burn, maybe we unknowingly played against each other lmao
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I guess thats my best option then. Can this deck even be competitive (not necessarily at the highest levels) without Hierarch? As i do like to play at LGS tourneys, but im not going to a PPTQ or a GP anytime soon.
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GW Abzan Company
Thoughts/suggestions please!
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Thanks in advance!
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Sorry but i dont feel like filtering through 50+ pages to find the answer
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GW Abzan Company