Do you guys think a piece of this deck will get a ban? Either street wraith or death's shadow?
There is a SCG going on, is the deck dominant on this tournament as well?
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- Torpf
Jeez, sorry! That was like the first time I talked about a potential ban, and I wasn't suggesting anything, more talking about how the metagame has adjusted. But whatever...
Maybe some time in the future, but I don't think it will happen soon, reasons:
The metagame has adjusted to the presence of Death's Shadow decks and looks healthy and diverse.
Grixis Shadow has not put up many spectacular finishes in recent major events, despite being played by some of the best players.
The deck is not easy to learn or easy to master. I've seen flavor of the month players move on fairly quickly. Other decks, like Eldrazi Tron, require considerable less understanding of the other decks in the format.
The Grixis version of the deck keeps some of the degenerate combo decks in check that WotC has been concerned about in the past, most notably Gifts Storm.
The Death's Shadow decks helped making blue a viable color in Modern again, both directly (in case of Grixis Shadow) and indirectly (by helping UWx control decks climb back to tier 2).
Compared to some of the other established archetypes, Grixis Shadow is not overly oppressive and linear. Games involving this deck are often fun to watch (at least for me). The mirror is typically a lot more interesting than games revolving around the question who assembles Tron first.
The game plan of decks built around Death's Shadow can be attacked from multiple angles. This is a key difference to decks like Dredge that force many decks to dedicate one third of the sideboard to very specific cards.
WotC pointed out the issue of growing "ban fatigue" themselves.
Modern was just made a pro tour format again, scheduled for February 2018. Standard will completely reshape in September 2017 when 2 blocks leave the format. I doubt that WotC is going to stir up Modern as well with a series of bans.
If they ban one card, it will likely be Death's Shadow. A Street Wraith ban might not be enough if the Death's Shadow decks really overtake the format. Currently, the metagame share of Grixis Shadow seems to go down.
There is a SCG going on, is the deck dominant on this tournament as well?
You can check out the twitch stream by yourself. It's a team event, so many decks are already known from what is displayed in the stream. It doesn't look as if many players went with the deck, so the answer is probably "no".
Do you guys think a piece of this deck will get a ban? Either street wraith or death's shadow?
There is a SCG going on, is the deck dominant on this tournament as well?
Warning for Bank talk outside of the State of the Meta Thread. Please take any and all ban dissensions there.
- Torpf
I agree, I've been wathcing some of the streams and grixis death shadow doesn't seem to be present as much.
Probably a metagame adjust and people are moving towards some other decks. Still a very powerful deck thought.
I was thinking about getting the street wraith and death shadow playset but am afraid of a ban and loosing all the money invested.
I'm currently on eldrazi tron (haven't got chalices yet) and am pretty happy thought.
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Do you guys think a piece of this deck will get a ban? Either street wraith or death's shadow?
There is a SCG going on, is the deck dominant on this tournament as well?
Warning for Bank talk outside of the State of the Meta Thread. Please take any and all ban dissensions there.
- Torpf
Also, what about painful truths in this deck? It gives card advantage and we can loose life while keeping in control of the numbers.
Jeez, sorry! That was like the first time I talked about a potential ban, and I wasn't suggesting anything, more talking about how the metagame has adjusted. But whatever...
I agree, I've been wathcing some of the streams and grixis death shadow doesn't seem to be present as much.
Probably a metagame adjust and people are moving towards some other decks. Still a very powerful deck thought.
I was thinking about getting the street wraith and death shadow playset but am afraid of a ban and loosing all the money invested.
I'm currently on eldrazi tron (haven't got chalices yet) and am pretty happy thought.
There is a SCG going on, is the deck dominant on this tournament as well?
Warning for Bank talk outside of the State of the Meta Thread. Please take any and all ban dissensions there.
- Torpf