Maybe replace arbiter to maindeck gaddock teeg? If we were to cut leonin arbiter would we up the Aven Mindcensor to x4 or leave it at 2-3. Cutting the ghost quarter package does open up fetches and possibly Knight of the Reliquary and would add more consistency to the mana base.
Would return to the ranks be a good card to play against decks that two for one us alot?
Most of the time I play Mandrills for 3 making it pseudo Smiter 5-8. 4 Thalia has been great especially when opening with judge's familiar. I played rancor but found my critters being blown up in response or shortly after. Why not have that effect on a bolt resistant body?
My case for hooting mandrills is as follows. I wanted to keep the curve at 3 or less to use the mana denial plan more aggressively(I'm actually thinking of a 4th tec edge). Hatebears does a pretty good job of filling the graveyard with the land hate, canopy and playing creatures our opponents have to remove. Hooting Mandrills can also fight it's way through 1/1 tokens/chump blockers. I'm still testing it and it's been a dependable beater so far. The reason I'm not running liege is tri color payment. I've have been screwed over by that many times and I feel ghost quarter and tec edge are too good to cut down.
I understand, I see now that trying to blank removal that way isn't the way to go. I just want something to push this deck over the edge. I feel as though it's only one card away from being a beast.
Well, removal in this format is more often than not red. And it's true that it will worsen other match up's but that's what happens when you configure your deck to beat certain match up's, you lose others.
Spirit loop is a card for those wanting a good lifegain enchanment. It also stacks and has recursion. How about a build using auriok championand other creatures with protection and hatebears while slamming rancor and spirit loop on them? Thalia shouldn't hurt too much with those two enchanments.
Ok, someone needs to explain to me why Gaddock Teeg is bad. It locks out Splinter Twin, Birthing Pod, Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, Scapeshift, Supreme Verdict, Sphinx's Revelation, Cryptic Command. That's just off the top of my head, it hits cards in basically every deck in the format except Burn and Jund.
This is because the decks that he's good against has a plethora of ways to remove him,with him becoming more of a road block than a lock. He suffers the same fate as Meddling mage and Phyrexian revoker.
How does everyone feel about Judge's familiar? It seems really good to curve into Thalia, guardian of thraben with it and it can provide evasive beats with exalted triggers.
I will definitely test Dust Elemental in the up coming weeks. It seems like a good finisher for me since I run 3 Hushwing gryff main and one and a torpor orb in the side. It's drawback could become useful if you have board presence and your opponent tries a late Anger of the gods or Pyroclasm.
On the topic of teeg and hushwing. Most of us hatebears players don't run them because they are easily answered by removal. But shouldn't that be our main strategy? Denial of our opponent's strategy? Shouldn't we play this as a pseudo attrition? Shouldn't we set up roadblocks until we overwhelm our opponents?
I think it's an interesting card. When I see it I imagine a board state with Thaila, voice and storyteller. I haven't tried it but I imagine it would be answered on sight like thalia.
I'm not sure how I feel about Bathe in Light. It's a card I would have to play or see in action before I could judge it's effectiveness.
I've only played it versus bogles so far and it has worked wonders. I had two Heirarch and a pridemage. He had a scout with hyena umbra, ethereal armor and unflinching courage. He went to swing in and I play bathe in light targeting my heirarch and naming white causing all of his enchantments to fall off. It was pretty neat.
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Would return to the ranks be a good card to play against decks that two for one us alot?
4 Judge's familiar
4 Leonin Arbiter
4 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
4 Qasali Pridemage
2 Scavenging ooze
3 Aven Mindcencor
4 Loxodon smiter
1 Brimaz, king of Oreskos
4 Hooting Mandrills
4 Temple Garden
4 Razorverge Thicket
4 Horizon Canopy
1 Plains
2 Forest
4 Ghost Quarter
3 Tectonic Edge
My Current list. Sideboard is still a working WIP.
This is because the decks that he's good against has a plethora of ways to remove him,with him becoming more of a road block than a lock. He suffers the same fate as Meddling mage and Phyrexian revoker.
How does everyone feel about Judge's familiar? It seems really good to curve into Thalia, guardian of thraben with it and it can provide evasive beats with exalted triggers.
I think it's an interesting card. When I see it I imagine a board state with Thaila, voice and storyteller. I haven't tried it but I imagine it would be answered on sight like thalia.
I've only played it versus bogles so far and it has worked wonders. I had two Heirarch and a pridemage. He had a scout with hyena umbra, ethereal armor and unflinching courage. He went to swing in and I play bathe in light targeting my heirarch and naming white causing all of his enchantments to fall off. It was pretty neat.