I mean it's possible that he's scum. I literally have said that already.
Tom and vezok are by far the most likely IMO
again
Please tell me how it's Kami/vezok
It can't be. You voting anyone but me is all but literally a scum claim
Also you still have no reasons I'm scum in the first place. I am holding you to a higher standard than what you are putting out rn you are better than this when you're town
Grape I was already looking at Kami as possible scum and just waiting for them to show up and claim.
Iirc I made a post that I was gonna stop talking about them and didn't for a bit
But it's just team building and being an adult. I would totally rather lynch kj after these last couple of posts
I'm making a Vezok post. Will finish tom after D&D later.
Vezok is for sure scum. Wuffles very likely isn't. Kami COULD be but he's like. 3rd for me after tom/Vez.
hey yo vezok doesn't make sense as scum without me unless it's with you by claim timing
Fypov it SHOULD be always me and you should be solving vezok vs Kami for my partner
Just helping you out
@last this is why it's more likely Kami/kj than kami/wuffles
It is, however, official that the hydra has decided what they need to push. They clearly talked about this before posting. they are on the same page and the second one is acting like "oh yeah what he said is totally right"
So yeah
vote kami
Kj tomorrow
Profit
Really quickly and it's making me pause. I'm failing to see what exactly is scummy about a hydra coming to a conclusion before posting. Which seems to be the bulk of his case at this point.
Now to read KJ's big Vezok post because without reading it; it's giving me pause because pushing Vez before tom is a weird place to push unless you're trying to keep a mislynch alive like tom said. I don't see how Vezo can be scum without tom but tom can be scum without Vez.
seriously bro?
They hadn't posted today afair and came in hard with an agenda AND pretended to come to it separately.
Kj has been significantly scummier today obviously (read my posts, etc) but kami is still the right lynch
Maybe it was sudden but I had to accept the fact that I was literally wrong about everything day 1 and got there anyway this is actually quite impressive if right
My read on vezok doesn't matter at all he's either [as claimed] or [exactly scum redirector that redirected grape from kj to kj and claimed it before either of them]
(@last which is why it's strictly wrong to lynch vezok before me from his POV. Which, if he was town he would have easily figured out but he went about the vezok case already having decided I have to be scum and still managed to move his vote away from me
I'm making a Vezok post. Will finish tom after D&D later.
Vezok is for sure scum. Wuffles very likely isn't. Kami COULD be but he's like. 3rd for me after tom/Vez.
hey yo vezok doesn't make sense as scum without me unless it's with you by claim timing
Fypov it SHOULD be always me and you should be solving vezok vs Kami for my partner
Just helping you out
@last this is why it's more likely Kami/kj than kami/wuffles
It is, however, official that the hydra has decided what they need to push. They clearly talked about this before posting. they are on the same page and the second one is acting like "oh yeah what he said is totally right"
So the theory for a me/vezok team is we both decided not to use our thief and redirect to instead claim in such a way that the other is half outed when the other flips?
Because once we claim watcher and doc we can never use the scum side of the coin.
When kj says it's convenient I claimed after others it doesn't logically follow if that was a planned clearing of vezok and it would still make more sense to call it a me/Kami team I think?
So kj/Kami does actually seem most likely rn.
But if it's not I feel like kami is the more likely wuffles partner?
So I think Kami still the right lynch. Wuffles/kj prove their roles tonight in the off chance they lied (and presumably they would then claim roleblocked and try to 1v1 me)
I've got nothing behaviorally except the recent desperation to lynch me but it does seem like Kami flips scum here most of the time
There are two people voting you Tom. I'm not going to until after I make my case for you two.
I mean that's still "my wagon" whether you voted or not
You've been making a case since midway through day 1. And as wuffles has already shown there isn't one to be made
I was just about to say there's definitely 2 scum on me rn but I've literally said that, been asked to say it again, and then got lost in thinking about it.
But now that's the 3 voting me so even better.
If it really is kj/Kami that would be quite the loltom even if I technically had a winning poe
Even without Kami claim vezok is down to doctor or redirector, and claiming like that would be crazy unless scum with kj, and if so why redirect to kj?
Maybe if they thought grape was motivator? Or thought he was tracker and kj is ninja? I guess technically jk is the only token that makes that a bad thing (+ tracker if not ninja) so it's not as silly as I thought but that's still only one possible team and someone we have to solve anyway.
Last is tracker and if not blame osi and pretend this game never happened
Grape is JK unless scum with kj. And... why would they skip a kill?
I'm kinda assuming kj and wuffles are as claimed regardless of alignment but both could be the discarded role in a few situations. Either would be outed by not doing it tonight.
Which is why Kami is probably just the lynch today.
But neither of those (or grape) is an AI role. And either could be scum.
Or grape I guess but I don't think so. He was too well positioned to skip a kill imo and if he's scum it has to have been a skipped kill or BP Kami and they were the kill which also doesn't make sense.
So no just not grape.
I got lost in this post.
I already said scum in wuffles/kami/kj and it's still true.
Please tell me how it's Kami/vezok
It can't be. You voting anyone but me is all but literally a scum claim
Also you still have no reasons I'm scum in the first place. I am holding you to a higher standard than what you are putting out rn you are better than this when you're town
You can't have that, can you
Iirc I made a post that I was gonna stop talking about them and didn't for a bit
But it's just team building and being an adult. I would totally rather lynch kj after these last couple of posts
They hadn't posted today afair and came in hard with an agenda AND pretended to come to it separately.
Kj has been significantly scummier today obviously (read my posts, etc) but kami is still the right lynch
Maybe it was sudden but I had to accept the fact that I was literally wrong about everything day 1 and got there anyway this is actually quite impressive if right
(@last which is why it's strictly wrong to lynch vezok before me from his POV. Which, if he was town he would have easily figured out but he went about the vezok case already having decided I have to be scum and still managed to move his vote away from me
There's literally zero reason for town kj to be voting vezok over me unless he needs me for another mislynch tomorrow
Fypov it SHOULD be always me and you should be solving vezok vs Kami for my partner
Just helping you out
@last this is why it's more likely Kami/kj than kami/wuffles
It is, however, official that the hydra has decided what they need to push. They clearly talked about this before posting. they are on the same page and the second one is acting like "oh yeah what he said is totally right"
So yeah
vote kami
Kj tomorrow
Profit
And remember messenger is not an AI role so confirming doesn't do a whole lot but it does a little technically
He's possibly the bad town that I thought kj was
Because once we claim watcher and doc we can never use the scum side of the coin.
When kj says it's convenient I claimed after others it doesn't logically follow if that was a planned clearing of vezok and it would still make more sense to call it a me/Kami team I think?
So kj/Kami does actually seem most likely rn.
But if it's not I feel like kami is the more likely wuffles partner?
So I think Kami still the right lynch. Wuffles/kj prove their roles tonight in the off chance they lied (and presumably they would then claim roleblocked and try to 1v1 me)
I've got nothing behaviorally except the recent desperation to lynch me but it does seem like Kami flips scum here most of the time
You've been making a case since midway through day 1. And as wuffles has already shown there isn't one to be made
Kami claiming bp likely means he's that or ninja. Which means grape could have been the kill, or kj and he's scum with wuffles
I'm going to work this actually changed nothing
But now that's the 3 voting me so even better.
If it really is kj/Kami that would be quite the loltom even if I technically had a winning poe
Even without Kami claim vezok is down to doctor or redirector, and claiming like that would be crazy unless scum with kj, and if so why redirect to kj?
Maybe if they thought grape was motivator? Or thought he was tracker and kj is ninja? I guess technically jk is the only token that makes that a bad thing (+ tracker if not ninja) so it's not as silly as I thought but that's still only one possible team and someone we have to solve anyway.
Last is tracker and if not blame osi and pretend this game never happened
Grape is JK unless scum with kj. And... why would they skip a kill?
I'm kinda assuming kj and wuffles are as claimed regardless of alignment but both could be the discarded role in a few situations. Either would be outed by not doing it tonight.
Which is why Kami is probably just the lynch today.
But neither of those (or grape) is an AI role. And either could be scum.
Or grape I guess but I don't think so. He was too well positioned to skip a kill imo and if he's scum it has to have been a skipped kill or BP Kami and they were the kill which also doesn't make sense.
So no just not grape.
I got lost in this post.
I already said scum in wuffles/kami/kj and it's still true.