MTG Salvation

Thanks for the feedback guys. Much appreciated.

I was casual-playing last night and was getting consistent turn 3 kills using the original decklist minus the Gitaxian Probes which are on their way in the mail.

Quote from weltkrieg

I would remove pyrectic ritual and desperate ritual. they just don't add enough mana. I could almost make the same argument for lotus petal (I keep thinking lion's eye diamond myself). Now, with all those gone, you could then add in 4 infernal tutor to just go fetch what you need, whether it's another ritual or to empty your hand and go get the dragonstorm finish. It seems a good idea in BR dragonstorm.

Infernal Tutor seems like a solid suggestion. I've been thinking a lot on that one. In regards to Lion's Eye Diamond, can it be activated while Tutoring on an empty hand? Otherwise how could it be used in this deck?

I agree Pyretic Ritual is pretty much trash. Desperate Ritual is pretty decent if you can get 2 in hand, which happens every now and then.

Quote from j1nakamura

Yeah, just realized that if you draw some dragon things get ugly.

past in flames is not to get around counters, it simply gives more consistency since you could replay some cards

To make a combo you need to set clear what you need to win:
- 4 storm count
- 8R mana
- dragonstorm
- no more than 1 dragon on hand

Now you start checking the conditions

-Since you need only 4 storm, getting storm count isn't a problem
-To achieve 9 mana you'll need a lot of mana ramp, I'm thinking even on dwarven ruins, sandstone needle, ebon stronghold and peat bog. Maybe even lake of the dead. This helps getting treshold for cabal ritual. Another way is running rain of filth
-with burning wish you get 7 copies of dragonstorm to play. With just the 2 cantrips could be enoughh, but you'll have to test if you can goldfish consistenly
-you could try running more dragons, but I think 5 is ok, since even if you don't win on the spot, at least you kill them next turn.

I only need 3 dragons to win on the spot if I fetch Karrthus, doing 10 damage with Hellkites plus another 17 from combat with Haste. This has actually made me consider running 4 dragons total instead of 5 (3 hellkites and Karrthus).

The lands sandstone needle & peat bog interest me but heavily diminish chances of turn 1 kills and mana fixing, but would probably make turn 3 much more consistent.

Quote from j1nakamura

First thing is how you're going to find Dragonstorm. You need some card drawing engine, otherwise you'll be durdling around waiting to draw what you need. Try running some Faithless Looting, Night's Whisper or even Sign in Blood.

I am apprehensive about adding too much card draw due to the possibilities of drawing a Dragon or another Dragonstorm / Burning Wish. I thought Manamorphose and Gitaxian Probes, along with the Fetches would be just the right amount of deck acceleration.

Quote from j1nakamura

Rite of Flame on the wishboard seems just bad. I mean, Past in Flames would be a much better choice (if you run Past in Flames just note that Increasing Vengeance becomes very nice too).

I am in agreement that Rite of Flame on the wishboard isn't good. I am having a hard time understanding potential scenarios where Past in Flames would even be playable, however. If my ramp is stopped/countered, how am I going to get a 4 mana card (technically 5 needed to restart the ramp) draw out on the board to restart the combo? I would consider wishboarding it also, but that just tacks on another turn and/or 2 mana. I would like to think that the better solution to FoWs and such would be to hate them out turn 1 instead of having added insurance.

Quote from j1nakamura

And about protection: first you need to be sure your deck is good enough. Duress a Force of Will will not help if that means your combo will set back for 2 turns because you had to sac a Lotus Petal or Manamorphose to get black. After you get nice consistency, then you can start playing around hate.

Lotus Petal and manamorphose wouldn't be necessary for a Duress/Thoughtseize turn 1 as all of my lands produce black mana.

I really do appreciate the advice and apologize if my response sounds argumentative. I am just beginning to learn the format.

Hey guys, I am a newbie that has not played in a long time. I am building a casual Legacy deck based off of Dragonstorm. I realize it is not nearly the best Storm combo around, but please critique and help me optimize!





I realize I should probably be main-boarding some hate. Looking for suggestions of what to move in and out. Also trying to figure out a better secondary target for Burning Wish, currently it's Rite of Flame which is why there's one sideboarded.