This would probably be my choise too. But after some thought over night i'm not so sure. Let's break it down.
Both Pelt Collector and Experiment One will both be 4/4 max in the typical bushwhacker list. So no real gains in the size department.
My guess is that Pelt Collector will grow faster because of the die triggers, but slower on the ETB triggers and only on higher power creatures. So no extra gains from Narnam Renegade and Kird Ape.
Then there is the situation with the surged Reckless Bushwhacker where the Pelt Collectors ability just doesn't trigger on deaths because its power is allready +1 ueot.
Wild Nacatl and Ghor-Clan Rampager are both their best friends but i kinda like the combo with Vexing Devil in the same way stopmy guys are speaking of the interaction with Groundbreaker.
Given the option to take 4 to the dome but grow Pelt Collector twice, increases the likelyhood of keeping 4/3 for one.
Then there are the static/activated abilities. Pelt Collector needs to have three counters for the trample clause to have an effect whereas Experiment One needs only two to use its regenerative ability. Which is, quite easy to get to in comparison.
So to conclude, the cards are very alike but differ slightly given the various situations. I don't dislike Pelt Collector all of a sudden but i don't think it's stricktly better in Bushwhacker Zoo as opposed to other options we allready have. I will test it though,
I like the bushwacker deck. I don't think it works as well in that deck as it does in another form. I think the Pelt collector would be much better in that odd Mishra's bauble/Vexing devil Monstrosity awhile back that Todd Steven's played on stream. Plus Dromoka's Command with it sounds like a beating. I might try a traditional Zoo Shell with it. The 1-3 cmc that Lantern used to talk about since it gives Pelt Collector probably the best chance of growing to 4 power. For the life of me I wish he was here to remind me what that was. I'll just dredge it up through the Archives. Also I really enjoy the flavour this card brings in zoo.
Omg guys. I didn't expect this to happen, but did we really just get a new piece for my beloved Bushwhacker list spoiled? Pelt Collector seems like something that could potentially be larger than Experiment One without the regeneration. Which is, to be honest, often irrelevant.
I like it and it will be tested Now, what to cut.
He tried steppe lynx and Dark confidants main. Deck got real greedy in the end. Was not a fan deck kept changing. It became a near jund/zoo tribal zoo near the end.
a quick question for you experts of this deck..how is naya big zoo vs unfair match-up like amulet, titanshift, ad nauseam and classic rg tron? have to play a tournament in my local store and i assume that nobody will play any midrange bg.
Naya Big zoo is close to aggro midrange. The only one I'd say you're ahead against in that list for sure is RG tron, otherwise it's really down to what you have mainboard. Ad naus is pretty much near unwinnable if they their draws align up perfectly in the first 3 turns. Amulet is one I'm least sure of I haven't played against the deck since they banned summer bloom. I just remember the amulet match up going turn 2-3 titan and I just stare down that thing.
T8 of SCG Milwaukee included a bushwhacker zoo list. I think his list needs to shave a bushwhacker and I'm not a fan of the Dryad Arbor as the 18th land (as the 19th I can see), but otherwise I think his build is positioned pretty well constructed given a reasonable amount of Jund and Dredged expected in the meta - Goyf helps you keep punching through in both matchups. I'm not a fan of the SB though.
Is the destructive force a troll card or a typo? I don't even know what to think of it.
Did this deck die. I mean seems we used to be in the top 5 threads at top with all types of posts. I went 4-0 last night with whacker. Deck is still good ran some valorous stances in side for kslitas and reality smasher. I want thev trample from rancor but blossoming defense saved me twice in a jund match up
Deck isn't Dead just really awkwardly positioned. Plus most of the people going all in have switched to Death's shadow zoo in my area. Blossoming Defense is one heck of a card... to play against.
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So we can add it in to zoo decks now.
I want to hit this off Bloodbraid elf all the time.
I like the bushwacker deck. I don't think it works as well in that deck as it does in another form. I think the Pelt collector would be much better in that odd Mishra's bauble/Vexing devil Monstrosity awhile back that Todd Steven's played on stream. Plus Dromoka's Command with it sounds like a beating. I might try a traditional Zoo Shell with it. The 1-3 cmc that Lantern used to talk about since it gives Pelt Collector probably the best chance of growing to 4 power. For the life of me I wish he was here to remind me what that was. I'll just dredge it up through the Archives. Also I really enjoy the flavour this card brings in zoo.
Experiment One would be my Cut.
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Knight of the Reliquary
4 Noble Hierarch
3 Voice of Resurgence
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Tarmogoyf
3 Renegade Rallier
4 Wild Nacatl
1 Thundermaw Hellkite
Instant (8)
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Lightning Helix
3 Path to Exile
2 Arid Mesa
2 Forest
1 Blood Crypt
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Plains
2 Sacred Foundry
2 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Breeding Pool
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
1 Archangel Avacyn
1 Blood Moon
2 Molten Rain
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
1 Iona, Shield Of Emeria
3 Gifts Ungiven
1 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Kozilek's Return
1 Stony Silence
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Unburial Rites
Gonna take this to my Local LGS. Took some ideas from previous lists added a Gifts package in the side. Any suggestions?
That guy went a grand total of 12-7 he's a friend of mine. He doesn't like the list.
Naya Big zoo is close to aggro midrange. The only one I'd say you're ahead against in that list for sure is RG tron, otherwise it's really down to what you have mainboard. Ad naus is pretty much near unwinnable if they their draws align up perfectly in the first 3 turns. Amulet is one I'm least sure of I haven't played against the deck since they banned summer bloom. I just remember the amulet match up going turn 2-3 titan and I just stare down that thing.
I mean 2 mana red Geist seems great. I just want to say I'm attacking with a pirate and a monkey. Maybe an Atarka's back up?
Is the destructive force a troll card or a typo? I don't even know what to think of it.
Deck isn't Dead just really awkwardly positioned. Plus most of the people going all in have switched to Death's shadow zoo in my area. Blossoming Defense is one heck of a card... to play against.