Todd Stevens 5-0'd yesterday with a Naya Traverse list that's very Zoo-like.
He even went undefeated (10-0) on the league, playing against Bridgevine, Bant Spirits, Tron, Abzan Midrange and Storm.
Deck seems really nice.
Amulet of Safekeeping is not good.
It let Storm go off and they'll just bounce it and kill you once they find their pieces. It's also not good against Mardu, since the deck runs 3 KCommand and will just kill all your stuff and keep you off anything until they can KCommand the Amulet away and kill you.
It seems like a good card but it does absolutely nothing to stop those two decks of doing what they want to be doing.
The thing with Tribal Flames is that is also really good as a removal spell (the 5 damage being really relevant to kill all the Gurmag/Tasigur/Smasher/Goyf running around)... So perhaps you'd like to throw a couple Path to Exile into the mix. Running 4x Rabblemaster you probably need extra ways to remove blockers.
Also for the 1 drops you are considering I have to say I REALLY like Narnam Renegade. It's deceptively good.
But the list looks super fun, I really want to try it myself!
Yep, Flames acting as removal happens really often on that deck. I'm on the hopes that Ghor-Clan can act as pseudo-removal if needed (even better with Narnam's DT). I could run 2 Paths on the main, but I'll give it a spin with that maindeck (maybe try to fit 1 Smuggler's Copter) and then make some changes as needed. I'll probably run 3 Paths on the sideboard, tho.
Hey guys. I was thinking about building up a Naya list based on that Tribal list that showed up with BBE. Instead of 4 Flames + 2 Boros Charm, I'd use 4 Charm + 2 Ghor-Clan and Rabblemaster instead of Mantis Rider. It won't be that much less explosive than Tribal and it will have a better mana base. I had a lot of fun playing that 5c list and playing Rabble + BBE and Rabble + Ghor-Clan seems nice. Also living the dream of Ghor-Clan + Boros Charm on a Goyf.
I still have not decided what to play on my LGS next week, but if I play this, I'll write up my thoughts.
Sounds good. I also think that Tribal Flames is probably not worth the awkward mana base, and the extra modes on Boros Charm will probably make up for the 1 dmg difference. Will you run Noble Hierarch? And a playset of Lightning Helix?
I'd like to see the list you come up with!
Porting directly from the 5c list, that's what I'd run at first to check how it would perform:
Hey guys. I was thinking about building up a Naya list based on that Tribal list that showed up with BBE. Instead of 4 Flames + 2 Boros Charm, I'd use 4 Charm + 2 Ghor-Clan and Rabblemaster instead of Mantis Rider. It won't be that much less explosive than Tribal and it will have a better mana base. I had a lot of fun playing that 5c list and playing Rabble + BBE and Rabble + Ghor-Clan seems nice. Also living the dream of Ghor-Clan + Boros Charm on a Goyf.
I still have not decided what to play on my LGS next week, but if I play this, I'll write up my thoughts.
Anyone playing Pulse of Murasa on SB with BBE? Good against Burn and aggro decks for the lifegain and really useful on grindy matchups to return a dead/countered creature
Two totally different decks. Humans doesn't run Bloodraid Elf, neither burn spells... Those decks share nothing in common, even if they both run some of the same cards. And by the way, this deck stomps 5C Humans all day. And it just won a 150 players event (8 round swiss + Top 8 ) near my hood, beating Jund, UX Control, Tron, Infect and various combo decks all day long.
I didn't say Humans anywhere. I was also replying to the post right above mine, with the decklist from the GP that has 4 colors and Blood Moon.
2-0 vs Affinity
Lynx + removals gets G1 and Nacatl + Lynx + removals get G2
2-0 vs BG Tron
Early pressure and some burn on G1, Molten Rain before he could assemble Tron, then he is on 3 life and has to O-Stone my attackers. I had Mantis Rider and Nacatl in hand, played Nacatl and pass. He plays another Stone that he cracks when I attack. I pass, he plays Wurmcoil and Rider gets him.
2-1 vs Burn
Lost G1 because I went too careful on life with lands never getting blue, so I got an uncastable Rider in hand for 2 turns and he won at 7 life while I was holding Rider and Boros Charm. Got G2 with heavy aggro and G3 he stumbled on lands while I had 2 Finks and 3 Helixes. Stabilzied the board then got aggro with BBEs and Goyfs.
ID with GW Company on the 4th round, but we played and I lost 2-1.
Sideboard was just thrown togheter, but funny thing is that I sided in 4 Revelry match 1, 4 Rains on match 2, 3 Finks on match 3 and 4 Souls on match 4.
He even went undefeated (10-0) on the league, playing against Bridgevine, Bant Spirits, Tron, Abzan Midrange and Storm.
Deck seems really nice.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
It let Storm go off and they'll just bounce it and kill you once they find their pieces. It's also not good against Mardu, since the deck runs 3 KCommand and will just kill all your stuff and keep you off anything until they can KCommand the Amulet away and kill you.
It seems like a good card but it does absolutely nothing to stop those two decks of doing what they want to be doing.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Yep, Flames acting as removal happens really often on that deck. I'm on the hopes that Ghor-Clan can act as pseudo-removal if needed (even better with Narnam's DT). I could run 2 Paths on the main, but I'll give it a spin with that maindeck (maybe try to fit 1 Smuggler's Copter) and then make some changes as needed. I'll probably run 3 Paths on the sideboard, tho.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Porting directly from the 5c list, that's what I'd run at first to check how it would perform:
4 Arid Mesa
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Temple Garden
2 Stomping Ground
1 Sacred Foundry
2 Forest
1 Mountain
2 Horizon Canopy
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
4 Boros Charm
Creatures (26)
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Wild Nacatl
4 1 drop of choice (Steppe Lynx, Narnam Renegade, Kird Ape/Loam Lion)
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Ghor-Clan Rampager
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
I still have not decided what to play on my LGS next week, but if I play this, I'll write up my thoughts.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
2-0 vs UR Moon
2-0 vs GW Bogles
1-2 vs RG Eldrazi
I think I played bad on G3 here, maybe I could have won.
2-1 vs Merfolk.
G3 on the draw, he mulls and I decided to keep a hand of 3 fetches, 3 Bolts and 1 Tribal Flames. Got there. Killed 4 lords.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
I didn't say Humans anywhere. I was also replying to the post right above mine, with the decklist from the GP that has 4 colors and Blood Moon.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
4 Windswept Heath
4 Stomping Ground
1 Mountain
7 Forest
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Strangleroot Geist
3 Scavenging Ooze
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Fanatic of Xenagos
2 Ahn-Crop Crasher
4 Bloodbraid Elf
2 Blood Moon
1 Smuggler's Copter
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
1 Blood Crypt
1 Breeding Pool
1 Forest
1 Godless Shrine
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Plains
1 Sacred Foundry
2 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
4 Arid Mesa
4 Windswept Heath
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodbraid Elf
4 Steppe Lynx
4 Mantis Rider
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Wild Nacatl
Instants [10]
2 Boros Charm
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Lightning Helix
Sorceries [4]
4 Tribal Flames
4 Lingering Souls
4 Destructive Revelry
4 Molten Rain
3 Kitchen Finks
2-0 vs Affinity
Lynx + removals gets G1 and Nacatl + Lynx + removals get G2
2-0 vs BG Tron
Early pressure and some burn on G1, Molten Rain before he could assemble Tron, then he is on 3 life and has to O-Stone my attackers. I had Mantis Rider and Nacatl in hand, played Nacatl and pass. He plays another Stone that he cracks when I attack. I pass, he plays Wurmcoil and Rider gets him.
2-1 vs Burn
Lost G1 because I went too careful on life with lands never getting blue, so I got an uncastable Rider in hand for 2 turns and he won at 7 life while I was holding Rider and Boros Charm. Got G2 with heavy aggro and G3 he stumbled on lands while I had 2 Finks and 3 Helixes. Stabilzied the board then got aggro with BBEs and Goyfs.
ID with GW Company on the 4th round, but we played and I lost 2-1.
Sideboard was just thrown togheter, but funny thing is that I sided in 4 Revelry match 1, 4 Rains on match 2, 3 Finks on match 3 and 4 Souls on match 4.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
Yeah, that's for sure.
Maybe there's something that's not on the release notes. I think there's only half the set there.
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins
WGUBR 5c Humans
GWR Naya Zoo
Legacy:
GW GW Maverick
R Goblins