MTG Salvation

@Crimhead
I really like your list, it reminds me of when I was still adjusting Mishra to my liking, that feeling and fun of just playing around with everything that Mishra stood for. Was also fun to get the Ice Cave lockout, so many janky wins it was great. One thing I will say is while I understand guardian beast is a problem due to price, but why no Padeem? He protects ALL your artifacts and more than likely will draw you an extra card each turn.

As for recommendation of what to get, what Lord said, Darksteel Forge is the win con and once its out, unless they have exile you become a pain. Scarecrone is nice and all and his abilities are real good but not the level of effect Darksteel Forge produces just by being out.

@LordRewind
Going back to your set review, I'm actually not a big fan of As Foretold OUTSIDE of a control deck since they can capitalize immediately with an Ancestral Visions and then from there just seal the deal as they get a free counter + any additional counter mana they have open. Tempo is debatable but since they dont really run AV, hesitant since that's a turn with 3 mana doing nothing.

I agree with Rewind, Scroll Rack and Top are infinitely cheaper. If you can afford/have both you'll get the effect you're looking for. That's not to say soothsaying is bad because the shuffle ability is actually extremely relevant with topdeck manipulation which while scroll rack is in most cases better, it does feel pretty bad when you use scroll rack n cant follow up with a fetch or tutor so you can shuffle the deck.

@Rewind

you're fine, no need to apologize.

I mean I'll stick with Mishra even if there is a Zur player just for me. It's an honorable feeling somebody switched to Zur because they didn't like Mishra. Also I find Arcum beyond boring otherwise he'd be my artifact general in a heartbeat.

But anywho, anything new worth talking about in Amonkhet for Mishra? Been keeping up somewhat with spoilers but not enough.

I mean I understand what you're saying but idk, I just prefer turboing to my combo or mishra fun time. Doesnt help I have a zur player(actually switched to zur to hate me out with an easy stony silence) in my group so gotta go fast before stony silence comes out.

like I'll admit I should probably hop generals cuz there are far better artifact combo generals but I cant abandon one of my first commander decks that I really loved n who doesnt love possibility storm/nether void shenanigans along with making praetor's grasp a lot stronger than it is at taking things out

I dont mind The Abyss, just awkward in my meta, 2/5 of the decks it just cripples while the others just spam bodies anyways. I have thought about putting Spreading Plague back in since I run more combo than Mishra but it is always fun to set up the Mishra combos...just sucks with spreading plague out since Mishra will die. Only downside is the Eldrazi player since colorless is unfortunately not a color

I like transmute artifact, even if you cant pay for the target, easy way to put it in the grave for welder-like effects to cheat it out. Plus the rings+basalt+sensei's combo is super low on the curve so paying for those, which are already useful cards, is easy to do.

alright, appreciate it. I just know there is me(glissa and now also mishra) and a memnarch player that plays artifact so everyone has at least some artifact removal. Might change since two are building Sharuum(grant one of them is a little janky, other somewhat budget). but I can see powerful oppression that combos with mishra before some extra protection.

I can see those changes, forgot about plague and chaos warp somehow. Though I do have a question about when to play Spreading Plague? I've never been good at evaluating when it's best to play it.



Also, say I do end up getting Nether Void or Guardian Beast, would Nether Void take priority over Guardian Beast?

That's fine, the high power level isn't my whole playgroup(but enough that we have at least one per table/game) and I already have a few myself. I want to remake Mishra since he was my first artifact deck and I enjoyed him a lot and can be something I can bring to one of the I play at where the power level is not as high...also who doesnt love abusing chaos cards to generate advantage

I am fine with both strategies but I guess which strategy would work best in a high power level enviroment, probably stax?

Hey, everyone, I am rebuilding my Mishra deck after not playing it for a while now and need help with cutting 15 cards from it. I'd also greatly appreciate input and suggestions(barring Nether Void and Guardian Beast)