Rest in Peace shuts down the deck. But besides that, I would imagine most grave hate is playeable around. You know, Relics, Scooze etc.
Edit: Even RiP is beatable. They have three Wear/tear sibeboard.
Im not saying the deck cant lose, or that its unbeatable, dont get me wrong here. Also, Im not saying you have to like the deck, either. Im just saying I think its consistent.
OK. Thanks for your responses.
Is Faerie Conclave a viable way of winning through grave hate? I expect the deck can drag the game out long enough for you to get two or more Conclaves.
Yep, 13 counters and removal is exactly the same as 2.
What I'm curious to know is, how are you NOT fizzling with only 17 cantrips? Not to mention, 4 of them cost 2 mana (Digs). It seems like the only way you're comboing off is with 2 mana dorks OR a second Ascendancy - if either of those conditions are satisfied, then all your 2-mana spells give you 2 mana when you cast them, so you can play Dig/Izzet Charm to loot/Remand your own stuff for free. Anyone who's played the deck wants to chime in?
Yeah, it's a combo deck when it doesn't even play Grapeshot or Flesh // Blood. And it has WAY more reactive spells than the 1 or 2 Silence that the actual Jeskai Ascendancy combo deck plays. Not to mention lands (22 vs 16).
The Jeskai Ascendancy tempo/control deck has its own thread. And Lectrys is the OP, not me.
If you've spotted any mistakes in my primer(s), I'd like to hear it.
They've all had experience playing Storm before. Duke and Jensen played Storm at PT RTR (each finished with 18 points in the Modern rounds), and Turtenwald played Storm at GP Kansas City (finished with 30 points).
It's not a combo deck, I wouldn't touch it. It's like a tempo or control deck with the gimmick that you can animate your lands, and then those lands can cast spells for free.
It looks like an absolute pile lol, good job on Storm for beating its ass
P.S. And it just dies to grave hate. Good luck unearthing Stitcher, or delving, or casting Unburial Rites. Gotta kill your opponent with Faerie Conclaves lol, Colonnade is too mainstream.
The Wizards website sucks so bad. Takes forever to load and lags my MTGS tab too. I'll do you guys a favor and paste the JA decklist here so you don't have to put up with that crap.
Like seriously, how is this deck winning any game 1s? Attacking with Fatestitcher and Faerie Conclave?
Is this how the deck is supposed to work? You get a bunch of Conclaves on the battlefield, or Stitchers in the yard, animate them, cast one or two spells, and swing with a team of 3/3s or so? Cause that's not combo, dude.
P.S. Don't ask me to update the JA primer with this decklist. It's not a combo deck. Start your own thread called Jeskai Ascendancy Control or Jeskai Ascendancy Tempo if you want to.
(11) Sam Black Birthing Pod
(19) Patrick Chapin Blue-Red Delver
(13) Stanislav Cifka Blue-Red Delver
Paulo Vitor Damo da Rosa Jeskai Ascendancy
Lars Dam Jeskai Ascendancy
(2) Jeremy Dezani Scapeshift
(3) Reid Duke Pyromancer Ascension
Willy Edel Abzan
(5) Ivan Floch Jeskai Delver
(25) Yuuki Ichikawa Temur Delver
(7) William Jensen Pyromancer Ascension
Raphael Levy Scapeshift
(17) Tom Martell Jeskai Ascendancy
(4) Shaun McLaren Jeskai
Raymond Perez, Jr. Birthing Pod
(16) Paul Pietzl Blue-Red Delver
(14) Shahar Shenhar Burn
(10) Lee Shi Tian Scapeshift
Nam Sung-Wook Burn
(1) Owen Turtenwald Pyromancer Ascension
(20 Josh Utter-Leyton Jeskai Ascendancy
(9) Yuuya Watanabe Temur Delver
(12) Jacob Wilson Birthing Pod
Kentarou Yamamoto Blue-Red Delver
There are people actually playing Jeskai Ascendancy and Pyromancer Ascension (Storm).
The JA players are using Fatestitcher and a Gifts SB.
Storm has Treasure Cruise.
edit: I wanna see that JA deck, from their description it sounds like they just lose to any grave hate. They're not playing green creatures. Fatestitcher, TC and Gifts all use the graveyard.
I'm more wary of people saying "this deck is busted" ever since they said the same thing about the first Jeskai Ascendancy deck.
OK. Thanks for your responses.
Is Faerie Conclave a viable way of winning through grave hate? I expect the deck can drag the game out long enough for you to get two or more Conclaves.
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What about grave hate? How badly does it hurt this deck? Your Fatestitchers, Delve spells, and the transformational SB all use the graveyard.
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16 lands
12 mana dorks
7 JAs/Wishes
23-25 cantrips/draw spells
0-2 flex slots
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22 lands (4 Faerie Conclave)
4 Fatestitchers
4 JAs
17 cantrips/draw spells
13 counters/removal
Yep, 13 counters and removal is exactly the same as 2.
What I'm curious to know is, how are you NOT fizzling with only 17 cantrips? Not to mention, 4 of them cost 2 mana (Digs). It seems like the only way you're comboing off is with 2 mana dorks OR a second Ascendancy - if either of those conditions are satisfied, then all your 2-mana spells give you 2 mana when you cast them, so you can play Dig/Izzet Charm to loot/Remand your own stuff for free. Anyone who's played the deck wants to chime in?
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The Jeskai Ascendancy tempo/control deck has its own thread. And Lectrys is the OP, not me.
If you've spotted any mistakes in my primer(s), I'd like to hear it.
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It looks like an absolute pile lol, good job on Storm for beating its ass
P.S. And it just dies to grave hate. Good luck unearthing Stitcher, or delving, or casting Unburial Rites. Gotta kill your opponent with Faerie Conclaves lol, Colonnade is too mainstream.
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Looks like a bad deck
edit: decklists are up: http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/2014WC/moderndecklists
The Wizards website sucks so bad. Takes forever to load and lags my MTGS tab too. I'll do you guys a favor and paste the JA decklist here so you don't have to put up with that crap.
4 Serum Visions
4 Thought Scour
3 Remand
4 Izzet Charm
4 Jeskai Ascendancy
4 Fatestitcher
4 Dig Through Time
1 Treasure Cruise
3 Lightning Bolt
3 Path to Exile
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Faerie Conclave
1 Arid Mesa
1 Sacred Foundry
2 Steam Vents
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Seachrome Coast
2 Island
1 Plains
1 Mountain
3 Wear // Tear
3 Gifts Ungiven
1 Unburial Rites
1 Iona, Shield of Emeria
1 Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite
2 Swan Song
1 Pact of Negation
1 Deprive
2 Timely Reinforcements
Like seriously, how is this deck winning any game 1s? Attacking with Fatestitcher and Faerie Conclave?
Is this how the deck is supposed to work? You get a bunch of Conclaves on the battlefield, or Stitchers in the yard, animate them, cast one or two spells, and swing with a team of 3/3s or so? Cause that's not combo, dude.
P.S. Don't ask me to update the JA primer with this decklist. It's not a combo deck. Start your own thread called Jeskai Ascendancy Control or Jeskai Ascendancy Tempo if you want to.
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Gonna have to update the Storm primer.
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/2014WC/modernmetagame
(11) Sam Black Birthing Pod
(19) Patrick Chapin Blue-Red Delver
(13) Stanislav Cifka Blue-Red Delver
Paulo Vitor Damo da Rosa Jeskai Ascendancy
Lars Dam Jeskai Ascendancy
(2) Jeremy Dezani Scapeshift
(3) Reid Duke Pyromancer Ascension
Willy Edel Abzan
(5) Ivan Floch Jeskai Delver
(25) Yuuki Ichikawa Temur Delver
(7) William Jensen Pyromancer Ascension
Raphael Levy Scapeshift
(17) Tom Martell Jeskai Ascendancy
(4) Shaun McLaren Jeskai
Raymond Perez, Jr. Birthing Pod
(16) Paul Pietzl Blue-Red Delver
(14) Shahar Shenhar Burn
(10) Lee Shi Tian Scapeshift
Nam Sung-Wook Burn
(1) Owen Turtenwald Pyromancer Ascension
(20 Josh Utter-Leyton Jeskai Ascendancy
(9) Yuuya Watanabe Temur Delver
(12) Jacob Wilson Birthing Pod
Kentarou Yamamoto Blue-Red Delver
There are people actually playing Jeskai Ascendancy and Pyromancer Ascension (Storm).
The JA players are using Fatestitcher and a Gifts SB.
Storm has Treasure Cruise.
edit: I wanna see that JA deck, from their description it sounds like they just lose to any grave hate. They're not playing green creatures. Fatestitcher, TC and Gifts all use the graveyard.
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