I would be really interested if someone could share a example of a typical unfair cube list here to actually see what it looks like. I'm curious about the identity of some cards that don't appear in classic lists. I understand that those list run stuff like Vault, Storm and Kikki combos, but what else?
Had an interesting discussion with some friend this weekend about how to craft and build the cube.
He was stating that some cubes, without considering the power or unpower state of it, were craft using a unfair shell while others use a fair one. I was a bit confuse at first, because I thought he was only referring to the power aspect of it. But after we discuss about it, I understand that he meant something completly different. To make you guys understand, I will state some examples of cards that we talked about.
For him, cards like Hero of Bladehold and Polukranos, World Eater are just too much fair to be played into cubes that want to force unfairness, like strong control, combos and stuff. Even cards like Thundermaw Hellkite, Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath and at some point, the majority of other 4-drop/5-drop dudes seems to be too much fair for his dutties. For him, they don’t fit into any decks.
My friend then adds that those cards are replace by others that have the purpose, while being narrow, of pushing the cube’s archetypes more and more into the unfair stuff. Muddle the Mixture is a example of that. Other narrow stuff have been added as well, such as Pattern of Rebirth, one card that can be found in the MTGO Holiday Cube list. Also, less creatures are used and the focus seems to be more on spells and cheat stuff, while midrange seems to be completly absent from it.
He also states that classic fair cube does play a lot of unfair card, but couldn’t be consider as unfair cube though because the unfair cards were so much dilluated in the majority of fair cards that are running around. I was, and still is, sceptical about it because the majority of cornerstone cards that he mention and that are played in his unfair cube seems to be also find in mine and in the majority of classic powered ones. The only true diffrence between both kinds of cube is that cards that he consider fair in mine are replace by some kind of narrow helpers for the unfair strategies in his.
Do you guys ever heard about or see any of those unfair cube list? Do you have any other example of narrow cards that are listed in those? What a typical list of unfair cube looks like? Is it that so much different from classic ones?
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He was stating that some cubes, without considering the power or unpower state of it, were craft using a unfair shell while others use a fair one. I was a bit confuse at first, because I thought he was only referring to the power aspect of it. But after we discuss about it, I understand that he meant something completly different. To make you guys understand, I will state some examples of cards that we talked about.
For him, cards like Hero of Bladehold and Polukranos, World Eater are just too much fair to be played into cubes that want to force unfairness, like strong control, combos and stuff. Even cards like Thundermaw Hellkite, Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath and at some point, the majority of other 4-drop/5-drop dudes seems to be too much fair for his dutties. For him, they don’t fit into any decks.
My friend then adds that those cards are replace by others that have the purpose, while being narrow, of pushing the cube’s archetypes more and more into the unfair stuff. Muddle the Mixture is a example of that. Other narrow stuff have been added as well, such as Pattern of Rebirth, one card that can be found in the MTGO Holiday Cube list. Also, less creatures are used and the focus seems to be more on spells and cheat stuff, while midrange seems to be completly absent from it.
He also states that classic fair cube does play a lot of unfair card, but couldn’t be consider as unfair cube though because the unfair cards were so much dilluated in the majority of fair cards that are running around. I was, and still is, sceptical about it because the majority of cornerstone cards that he mention and that are played in his unfair cube seems to be also find in mine and in the majority of classic powered ones. The only true diffrence between both kinds of cube is that cards that he consider fair in mine are replace by some kind of narrow helpers for the unfair strategies in his.
Do you guys ever heard about or see any of those unfair cube list? Do you have any other example of narrow cards that are listed in those? What a typical list of unfair cube looks like? Is it that so much different from classic ones?
Zetsu's Cube on CubeTutor.com
Zetsu's Ebay MTG Online Store
Zetsu's Poker Draft Method