I really like the relics. I used to hate them, but now even in the matchups where they do nothing, there is a card thats usually worse. I do side em out vs infect, burn, elves and decks like that, but having relic to give you a better chance game 1 vs control,hollow one and goyf decks is really valuable, even if goyf decks are a good matchups. I used to play a lot of Gideon, but bitterblossom is 2 mana and goes under counterspells often. Anyway I'm gonna test one sorin in the maindeck next time. Still not sure what I'll be replacing. Maybe 1 displacer. Not only is it gonna make bitterblossom better but also Kitesails. Might also replace one mutavault for the vault of the archangel, so I have 2 lifelink sources.
@renanymt I have celestial purge and Utter end exactly to deal with eldrazi tron and planeswalker. Thinking about replacing Celestial purge with maybe something more consistent. Maybe 2nd utter end or cast out, since the cycle prevents one of the cards being dead.
I really like vault the archangels, it's a good tech card, the deathtouch and lifelink effect sound good.
I took this with 2 different sideboard cards. Ended up running 2 herders in sideboard.
Round 1 Uw control.
Game 1 I have him on 5 with a land in hand and no collonade. Smasher in play. He goes JTMS into brainstorm into path. My next draw is a land and he runs me down with JTMS and card advantage.
Game 2. I land turn 2 bitterblossom and that is usually game over for U/W. I end up casting 2 blightherds have a mutavault in play. Cryptic tap your attackers ok activate mutavault take 2. This happens 4 turns in the row, but it doesnt matter. He runs out of cards without even being able to stop my board and dies. Not close.
Game 3. Repeat of game 2 but he cast 2 detention sphere and 2 terminus and 2 verdicts so my bitterblossom got me to 6. He is super dead and everyone is watching. I have souls in graveyard, 4 bitterblossom tokens and 2 souls tokens and 3 lands in hand. He has a collonade and 7 lands. He is on 1. Everyone is watching the game. 30+ cards and only 1 terminus left. Miracle terminus, get you with collonade puts me to 2. Bitterblossom to 1. I have 4 smashers and a collective brutality to draw. Nope. 1/30ish to hit the terminus or he lost. Oh well gg no re.
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Round 2 vs tron. 1 out of 28 decks. Oh well.
0-2
Round 3 8 rack. Mutavault performs once more.
Game 1 he lands a bridge and grinds me down, nothing I can do.
Game 2 I mull to 6 but keeps 2 temples, swamp and a smasher and 2 random cards.
I play nothing untill turn 3 when I land a smasher. 2 attacks he is to 10. But a bunch of discard and 3 racks gets me to 8. I'm still winning the race but he can land a removal and the game would be over. Nope I topdeck 2nd smasher and finish him.
Game 3. I played only 3 lands and a Bitterblossom.
Turn 2 bitterblossom into mutavault. He smallpoxes my 2nd land to activate the mutavault so I just play another land. I win with 4 cards in hand while he gets killed by fearie tokens and mutavault.
1-2.
Round 4 temur delver. Not even close.
2-0.
2-2.
The tuning is complete. With Utter End now in my sideboard over anguished(3 life hurts) I'm happy. This was some really bad luck to 2-2. Bitterblossom and blightherder is amazing vs grindy matchups. Honestly, who cares about field of ruin I can't beat tron anyways, and in the grindy matchups mutavault is better even if they have manlands. I'm taking this to PPTQ in 2 weeks. Dissapointed with 2-2 but after 4 weeks of 3-1 or better, sometimes bad luck has to happen.
yeah.. sometimes bad luck happens.
I liked ur side, but what about Gideon, ally of zendikar ? Bitterblossom just destroy all controls i agree.
Another tought, i'm thinking to cut all the relics to discards or matter reshaper. We can activate the processor with TKS, path and Tidehollow/Kitesail. Because most of the matchups, relic is a dead draw, what about it ?
Reshaper is not good. Would never play 4 copies. Maybe replacing displacer if you are excpecting a lot of bolts. Also I wouldn't recommend not playing 4 ofs, specially not important card like reality smasher.
Here is what I'll be taking to Modern Monday.
Changes from previous week when I went 3-1.
-2 Shambling
-1 Wastes
-2 Field of Ruin
- Vault
+4 Mutavaults
+1 Concealed Courtyard
+1 Plains.
And - Brutallity
+ Cast down.
Would rather have 4th marsh flats instead of concealed but I'll live, playing extra plain to be better vs blood moon since im losing field and wastes. Ill also sideboard TKS and Smasher out more agressivly vs bloodmoons maybe all 8 out.
Moving CB to sideboard and replacing Ob nix with blight herder. As I said previously would way rather play Elspeth instead of blight herder and another CB instead of Blessed Alliance but I'll live as I sold those cards since I had foils.
Will report.
Hello again.
I build my BW around my meta, here i have only 10 types of decks:
Tron, Jeskai, burn, goblins, RW DnT, BW Tokens, Jund, Merfolk, Infect, Affinity, Mono G Stompy.
So, based on this meta, i'm thinking to cut all the relics or using only 3.
I would play mutavaults if I didn't already have all 8 colourless lands taken. I really like the basic waste and with it I have to run Field of ruin.Thought recently i've started siding out all TKSs and Smashers again blood moon decks so I might have to try mutavaults again.
I've used to play Tidehollow, but the mana just doesn't work. Way too often you get stranded without second coloured source or need to play 2 coloured spells with a colourless land. So I switched to Kitesail but I really don't wanna play more than 2.
Stoneforge would benefit us the most so I hope it ever gets ubanned. Untill then just small tweaking. Will try 4 mutavauls one day.
Post here after you try 4 mutavault in ur MD, please. I'm thinking to get 4 copies. Matter reshaper to card advantage is a bad idea ?
I.E: 4x Matter Reshaper, 3 Reality Smasher, 3 Wasteland Strangler, 2 Displacer, 4 TKS and some copies of Kitesail.
The reason I think that deck is not that popular and powerful is because it lacks its own impactful 2 drop that is just raw power and not cutesy. Yeah tidehollow/kitesail are fine, but they can be too cutesy and can be crushing topdecks. I'm now on 2 kitesail freebooter and that is max I'll ever play. I've tried everything from bitterblossom, to matter reshapers to collective brutallity. Nothing does the trick. Gonna do some expirimenting with a 2/2 split of Kitesail, Displacer and if that doesn't work im just doomed to 2 kitesail 2 brutallity untill we get stoneforge.
Hi, i'm building my BW Eldrazi Processor and i have a doubt about Lilian of the Veil, what about to run 1 copy of her on MD ?
Anyone have an idea why this deck is not popular ? it's seems pretty strong to me
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I was looking and found a really great card against control, Eternal Scourge. We can exile It easy with relics and cast It infinity times
I really like vault the archangels, it's a good tech card, the deathtouch and lifelink effect sound good.
Have u see this list ?
https://www.metacall.gg/decks/cjb1woxj23we4012427kzmkzm
I kind like this list, but i disagree with ratchet bomb and dismember and also i like Eldrazi Displacer because of the blink.
Try one copy of Sorin, u will like it very well ! and his ultimate is GG !
yeah.. sometimes bad luck happens.
I liked ur side, but what about Gideon, ally of zendikar ? Bitterblossom just destroy all controls i agree.
Another tought, i'm thinking to cut all the relics to discards or matter reshaper. We can activate the processor with TKS, path and Tidehollow/Kitesail. Because most of the matchups, relic is a dead draw, what about it ?
Hello again.
I build my BW around my meta, here i have only 10 types of decks:
Tron, Jeskai, burn, goblins, RW DnT, BW Tokens, Jund, Merfolk, Infect, Affinity, Mono G Stompy.
So, based on this meta, i'm thinking to cut all the relics or using only 3.
here is my decklist now:
4 Mutavault
4 Caves of Koilos
3 Concealed Courtyard
1 Marsh Flats
1 Godless Shrine
1 Fetid Heath
2 Ghost Quarter
1 Plains
1 Wastes
2 Swamp
3 Reality Smasher
4 Thought-Knot Seer
4 Tidehollow Sculler
4 Wasteland Strangler
2 Eldrazi Displacer
4 Path to Exile
2 Fatal Push
3 Inquisition of Kozilek
2 Collective Brutality
4 Lingering Souls
3 Relic of Progenitus
1 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
sorin is amazing against certains decks, collective is a god card against burn, goblins and infect.
Post here after you try 4 mutavault in ur MD, please. I'm thinking to get 4 copies. Matter reshaper to card advantage is a bad idea ?
I.E: 4x Matter Reshaper, 3 Reality Smasher, 3 Wasteland Strangler, 2 Displacer, 4 TKS and some copies of Kitesail.
What u say about 3/4 mutavault rather than shambling vents ?
this sideboard looks like mine, but i play Settle.
IMO, BW eldrazi is very funny to play, the most players don't like to play against it hahah !
Stoneforge on BW Eldrazi ? Sounds funny ahahhaa.
What other creatures u have in your deck ?
Anyone have an idea why this deck is not popular ? it's seems pretty strong to me