MTG Salvation

Hello DNT community!

Ive been made aware of certain rules that are required to maintain the primer and forum here on mtgsalvation. I wasn’t aware and honestly, with adapting to parenthood, Ive slipped on my responsibilities here. I plan on letting go of the other forums on manage on this site and plan to exclusively put efforts in for you all here.

Just one quick question? What do you guys want to see forum the primer update and how would you like me to make contributions? PM if it’s something in great detail.

Run oblivion ring or anguished unmaking

The Primer has been cleaned and updated!
Enjoy your pre-releases this weekend!
-Catmix

Hey y’all! It’s been awhile

I recently had a baby and was locked out of salvation and couldn’t dedicate time to get it resolved. I’m aware that there are broken links in the primer and I’ll plan on having a full fix after ban announcement and m19 spoiler season ends.

Holler,
Catmix

Hey! Its been brought to my attention that the links in the primer were broken during our migration to "aggro" decks. I will fix this weekend!!

-catmix

I just want to pop in and say, “Welcome” to all the new participants in the forum. This is a very good time to be investing in Modern: DNT. The deck is well positioned and poised to improve month over month with little to no concerns of bannable cards.

Also, thank you to all the veteran players keeping great dialogue moving and answering questions that come up.

To all: don’t forget that the primer has a section titled, “Leonin’s Library” And contains amazing resources as well. Private message me if there is a need for an update.

And finally, while I’m not commenting a ton, I’m always here and willing to help! Private messages or a hit up on twitter usually gets the quickest responses from me.

Much love, fam!
-Catmix

@bromaz PHYREXIAN REVOKER PRIMER

@johnkorean hey! The maths of torpor Plan was pretty good and I even tested tocatli as an sb Card. I also tested a dedicated hatebear list as well. I currently am off it (not sure if that’s correct).

As previously mentioned, I have it all archived on twitch//youtube.

UG Merfolk will still need to prove itself to most Merfolk players. They can be more stubborn than us with changing a deck that they feel is already sculpted to “max” potential.

Just need to point this out!! Path to Meddle is a great card for the potential Red Splash. It hits lingering souls and other annoying x/s. It can be flickered while setting up to add value after flipped.

This along with red snapcaster is worth thinking about for the red mage hopefuls.

@grayson290 congrats, to you! Do you remember what you played against and are you able to give a brief recap?

Tron just takes practice. Using your resources aggressively is important and having enough of the resilient hate (8-10 stone rain lands, big thalia and so on).

Lantern Control is a plague. The deck should not exist. Do not beat yourself up trying to meta them. You will skew your deck and still have a hard time. I repeat, do not worry about them. Play your best (if you choose to play) and know many decks cannot beat their average hands.

@everyone a reply to @agua_benta

The 5C Humans thing:
I think 5C Humans was hard to beat before understanding how to knock them off balance. Humans have a very weak mana base and only a few potent threats. The question you really have to ask is are you willing to adjust your deck to beat them or do you want to force yourself to out maneuver them? Sadly, as always with creature match ups, you can't have both. I have gone both routes and can hopefully shed light on how to beat them.

Adjusting the your deck:
Humans has a hard time with larger creatures and creatures that "kill" stuff. The best main deck threats I have seen against them in my testing are: Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Blade Splicer, Fiend Hunter and Restoration Angel. Having creatures that can gang block or trade with their resources. Great back up plans for when they stumble is aggressively using Big Thalia and Leonin Arbiter to punish awkward mana and sequencing.

Afterwards the biggest adjustment would be balancing the SB. Cards that work wonders are: Tocatli Honor Guard, Sunlance, Dec Stone/Journey to Nowhere, and Sword of Light and Shadow. While its obvious that Tocatli is a Non-Bo with most DNT builds, the upside she provides against Humans is essentially an unlossable match up if drawn. Their entire deck relies on "ETB". I have tested her a ton and removing blade splicer and bringing her in against them is remarkable. After the SB strategy, you probably don't leave too many "ETB" that matter. Resto is still great and wisp still flies and trades with Mantis Rider. The other options mentioned are also great but very draw dependent against them.

Adjusting your play style against Humans:

I would not fault anyone for having a "bad" match up against Humans. I would say we all said the same thing about Death Shadow when it first rolled around. That match up can still get great blow out lines but feels less difficult than it did in the past. The key cards to try and out maneuver are: Reflector Mage, Mayor of Avenbrook*, and Mantis Rider.

Saving removal for those three idiots or looking to ambush block them is the most important. Believe it or not, the remaining cards in their deck are a bit of a joke once you start paying more attention to these cards. Seriously!!!

Sidenotes:

• Check your vial! If you can redeploy a card from R Mage, it can make them stumble enough!
• SB some Removal! This format is all about creature combat. If you are losing here, its because you don't have enough dudes and removal spells in main and sb.
• Play the flying game! Trust me, if you can clog the ground up enough, you will over take the game in the air!!!
• Don't worry about Meddling Mage shutting down Path to Exile. Your deck will end answers to Mage. Let the Paths sit in hand and use them to take down the real threats. Don't use them hastily out of fear of never using them again!

You got this, guys! Its not as bad as it seems. Just needs some practice and alternate planning to overcome the decks newness and appeal!

@Nadere03 try using “@“ to the group. Whether getting an individual person’s attention or even typing “@everyone”. Mostly everyone here is in mid-conversation and no one wants to overdue a page of feedback.

Also, it helps to really introduce yourself to the group and establish who you are and what help you need from the community. Everyone wants to help but it is a tax to fill out a reply to a report only to find someone else just said what you just did. People here are specialists in different parts of DNT and introducing your needs to them will get the right people responding.

Welcome to the forum and much love, fam!
-catmix

Thanks for sharing the info and your perspective. I know everyone here appreciates hearing from you. Please stay close to the salvation community and let’s maybe Skype and stream a league sometime! We can private message more if interested!!

-Catmix

Congrats on your recent finish!

I’m glad to hear you are on Gideon of the Trials in the board. I had not seen many people testing or trying the card. I agree that is an amazing sb Card for the deck.

I have a question about endless sands? Like a lot of questions. Could you give a bit of insight for where you want that and how you implement it? Thats probably the most interesting thing your list was doing and I need answers. Lol.

Thanks in advance