I don’t play very often so I was debating selling my cavern of souls. I play GB painless mana with palaces and marshes. What do you suggest I run in caverns place? Unclaimed territory? More basic forests? Or do I go fetches and shocks now..
Looks like most people are forgoing Elvish Visionaries for a set of Elvish Clancallers instead in GB elves. Anyone here test this out at all? I’m curious if it’s been showing positive results.
Thorn lieutenant just got spoiled, and I am all up for the "elf warrior" tribal deck now. Maybe not with aethervial still, but this is the two drop that is better than clancaller and helps with reaching critical mass for elves. Definitely a staple 4 of.
Going the elf warrior tribal still means no aethervial imo, too many 1 drops in elves that matter to play over it.
Thorn Lieutenent just seems like a bad version of Dwynen’s Elite. Offers no real advantage unless someone targets it, which will most likely kill it. Or it can never get targeted because why would they when they can target an actual useful elf.
I had 2 Abrupt Decays in the side for a while but would rarely side them in. I found Rec Sage was able to hit all the same things so I dropped them altogether. The Wardens are for any heavy creature matchups/burn. If they are wasting a burn spell on Warden, I’m winning. Maybe one day we will get an Elf version of Kitesail! Wishful.. I know.
How do you sideboard against Jund, GW Hatebears and Soul Sisters?
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I never see Soul Sisters or Hatebear at my locals. And for Jund I’ll only side in Champion. Lead the Stampede is MVP vs Jund.
Side question for all you Elf obsessed like myself.
What is your companion deck? I’ve been trying for over 3 years to find a 2nd deck I truly enjoy. I’ve gone through well over 12 decks, just nothing seems to be as enjoyable as my precious elves. So I’m curious to see what all of you play when you take a short break from Elves to change things up.
if you want only Shaman of the pack => you can run 11-12 sources of black
if you want thoughtseize and white spell (stony silence) => 11 fetchlands, 2 shocklands at LEAST
if you want thoughtseize => blooming marsh. cavern of souls, gilt leaf palace
if you want to only cast creature spells in the abzan colours (as part of a toolbox) => you can afford not running 10 fetches
it's so simple but everyoone here seems to not understand this. I hope Kizzel posts something about this matter in the sideboard
In my experience, I have never had any issues casting Shaman nor Thoughtseize.
For Shaman, we have 4 Caverns, 4 Gilt Leaf Palace, 4 Blooming Marsh, 4 Collected Company.
For Thoughtseize, we have 4 Gilt-Leaf and 4 Blooming Marsh.
Now, if you seem to be having issues casting Thoughtseize, you could always run Overgrown Tomb in the land flex spots. Or, you could drop 2 Nettle Sentinels in favor of Elves of Deep Shadow.
On top of that, you need to be playing Thoughtseize correctly. In our deck, it’s not always the turn one play we want. In most cases, we hold it until we want to “go off” and play it that turn, so you don’t really need turn 1 black mana. It really depends on the match up. It’s a catch all sort of spell so I always side 4. If sweepers are all you are afraid of, just run Heroic Intervention instead and be reactive. Thoughtseize almost always comes in game 2 for me. Besides Shaman, it’s the reason to play GB elves.
I never play more/less than 18 lands in GB and I strongly value pain free mana setups. My land base looks like this:
4 Forest
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Gilt Leaf Palace
4 Blooming Marsh
1 Pendelhaven
1 Westvale Abbey
I run Westvale as a plan C emergency situation. But like I said, the flex spots can be changed to whatever your preferences are.
I had 2 Abrupt Decays in the side for a while but would rarely side them in. I found Rec Sage was able to hit all the same things so I dropped them altogether. The Wardens are for any heavy creature matchups/burn. If they are wasting a burn spell on Warden, I’m winning. Maybe one day we will get an Elf version of Kitesail! Wishful.. I know.
Also- anyone still attempting Jund elves or is that hype over now? I messed with Jund for a while, the mana always felt so awkward. All our elves produce green but we need red and black as well.
Need your opinions. My elf deck is pretty much all foiled out except for Cavern of Souls. My current Llanowar Elves are the Gateway promos and the original foil Ezuri. Now my questions are;
1) Which do you prefer, Gateway Promo or the new full art promo from Dominaria Llanowar Elves?
2) Which do you prefer, original foil Ezuri or the new Duel deck foil Ezuri?
Basically trying to determine if it’s worth shelling out the extra cash for additional foils or not. Lol.
As fun as Jund has been, I’ll be going back to the Pure GB builds. I miss the painless mana base and consistency it brings. BBE just always felt clunky to me. Personal preference I suppose.
Sylvan Recruiter - 1(G)
Elf Warrior
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal a creature spell. You may put that creature onto the battlefield, put the rest into the graveyard.
2/2
Too good? Lol.
Thinking of a new elf that could take us up a tier.
FAR too good.
If you intended this is an ETB trigger, it basically just reads 1(G) - Put Emrakul into play.
If you intended it as a cast trigger, it's still far too busted and will just end up being used as a combo enabler instead of being used as an elves value card.
Sylvan Recruiter - 1(G)
Elf Warrior
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal an elf creature spell 3 mana or less. You may put that elf creature onto the battlefield, put the rest into the graveyard.
2/2
Too good? Lol.
Thinking of a new elf that could take us up a tier.
Thorn Lieutenent just seems like a bad version of Dwynen’s Elite. Offers no real advantage unless someone targets it, which will most likely kill it. Or it can never get targeted because why would they when they can target an actual useful elf.
I never see Soul Sisters or Hatebear at my locals. And for Jund I’ll only side in Champion. Lead the Stampede is MVP vs Jund.
What is your companion deck? I’ve been trying for over 3 years to find a 2nd deck I truly enjoy. I’ve gone through well over 12 decks, just nothing seems to be as enjoyable as my precious elves. So I’m curious to see what all of you play when you take a short break from Elves to change things up.
Thanks!
In my experience, I have never had any issues casting Shaman nor Thoughtseize.
For Shaman, we have 4 Caverns, 4 Gilt Leaf Palace, 4 Blooming Marsh, 4 Collected Company.
For Thoughtseize, we have 4 Gilt-Leaf and 4 Blooming Marsh.
Now, if you seem to be having issues casting Thoughtseize, you could always run Overgrown Tomb in the land flex spots. Or, you could drop 2 Nettle Sentinels in favor of Elves of Deep Shadow.
On top of that, you need to be playing Thoughtseize correctly. In our deck, it’s not always the turn one play we want. In most cases, we hold it until we want to “go off” and play it that turn, so you don’t really need turn 1 black mana. It really depends on the match up. It’s a catch all sort of spell so I always side 4. If sweepers are all you are afraid of, just run Heroic Intervention instead and be reactive. Thoughtseize almost always comes in game 2 for me. Besides Shaman, it’s the reason to play GB elves.
I never play more/less than 18 lands in GB and I strongly value pain free mana setups. My land base looks like this:
4 Forest
4 Cavern of Souls
4 Gilt Leaf Palace
4 Blooming Marsh
1 Pendelhaven
1 Westvale Abbey
I run Westvale as a plan C emergency situation. But like I said, the flex spots can be changed to whatever your preferences are.
My current sideboard looks like this:
2 Fracturing Gust
2 Reclamation Sage
2 Elvish Champion
2 Scavenging Ooze
3 Essence Warden
4 Thoughtseize
I had 2 Abrupt Decays in the side for a while but would rarely side them in. I found Rec Sage was able to hit all the same things so I dropped them altogether. The Wardens are for any heavy creature matchups/burn. If they are wasting a burn spell on Warden, I’m winning. Maybe one day we will get an Elf version of Kitesail! Wishful.. I know.
That would drive me crazy haha. I’m a matching set kind of guy. Playing different arts bothers me.
1) Which do you prefer, Gateway Promo or the new full art promo from Dominaria Llanowar Elves?
2) Which do you prefer, original foil Ezuri or the new Duel deck foil Ezuri?
Basically trying to determine if it’s worth shelling out the extra cash for additional foils or not. Lol.
No nettles and no company’s.
I edited it. Still broke tho I think. Lol
Elf Warrior
Reveal cards from the top of your library until you reveal an elf creature spell 3 mana or less. You may put that elf creature onto the battlefield, put the rest into the graveyard.
2/2
Too good? Lol.
Thinking of a new elf that could take us up a tier.