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Grixis Death's Shadow Mar 13, 2018
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Young P Is used in the grindy matches usually. And when you expect graveyard hate. Swap out an angler with a young pyro. In the mirror it's nice, especially against opposing lilianas. Sacrificeing a token is better than sacrificing a shadow.

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Grixis Death's Shadow Mar 4, 2018
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Another reason I run bauble is it enables a lot more turn 2 anglers. Sometimes even with stub up. And the games we need to be fast and go under, it's helpful. I run 4 bauble, 4 wraith, 4 scour. No serum or opt. Used to run opt (which I think is better than serum in this deck) but I think bauble being a free "opt" is just better. I will admit sometimes getting the card during their upkeep is a bummer

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Grixis Death's Shadow Jan 30, 2018
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Can someone please help me with young Pyro in the SB. Do I just bring her in for the midrange/control matchup? If anyone has experience on what matchups in particular she shines that would be helpful. Thanks!

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Grixis Death's Shadow Jan 10, 2018
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What's the thought on young pyromancer?? Is it worth 2 slots in the sideboard. Personally I don't think so. Maybe I'm using it wrong. Mainly brining it in against Control, grind decks. Liliana and such. The only thing I enjoy about young p Is that its an extra potential threat in the deck if it's not dealt with (especially when they bring in grave hate) and is it less useful in the sideboard with the bauble build due to less instant and sorceries?

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Grixis Death's Shadow Jan 9, 2018

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Well, I've been trying it for the past 5 days online quite a bit and there are a couple of things I have noticed that have made me like the 17 land count but dislike the baubles.
I think they are absolutely amazing with a fetchland, they are almost a free opt in that scenario, you scry, and then draw next upkeep.
However, I have found them to be quite a bad draw later in the game, if you don't have a fetchland the best you can do with it is look at the opponent's top and draw next turn, where the draw might be a threat that you can't actually play and is susceptible to thoughtseize, if you crack in their turn its ok, but still its 1 turn later than a regular cantrip.

So my decision has been to try a list such as this:

Jaken105's DeckMagic Online OCTGN2 Apprentice Buy These Cards

Lands (17)
1x Blood Crypt
4x Bloodstained Mire
1x Island
4x Polluted Delta
3x Scalding Tarn
1x Steam Vents
1x Swamp
2x Watery Grave

Creatures (15)
4x Death's Shadow
4x Gurmag Angler
4x Snapcaster Mage
3x Street Wraith

Cantrips (9)
4x Opt
4x Thought Scour
1x Serum Visions

1x Dismember
4x Fatal Push
2x Inquisition of Kozilek
1x Kolaghan's Command
1x Lightning Bolt
3x Stubborn Denial
2x Temur Battle Rage
1x Terminate
4x Thoughtseize

Sideboard
2x Ceremonious Rejection
1x Collective Brutality
2x Disdainful Stroke
1x Engineered Explosives
1x Flaying Tendrils
1x Kolaghan's Command
1x Kozilek's Return
2x Liliana of the Veil
2x Nihil Spellbomb
2x Young Pyromancer

I'm back and forth with 18 and 17 lands, just because I like the second Blood Crypt, but I'm still testing and I'll keep checking.

I dig the list. And really like the sideboard. Not as many 3 cmc. And I like rakdos charm. keep us posted if you like the 17 land without bauble. And if you notice any issues with 4 anglers. I liked the bauble because they really help with the turn 2 angler.

Grixis Death's Shadow Jan 8, 2018
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I've been playing around with the 4 bauble/17 land version. I think 17 lands is acceptable. Bauble is fun. Makes for some good opening play with a serum and street wraith in hand. I think this build is more explosive in the early game. But doesn't have the late game as tradish grixis shadow. I was having little to no issues putting down a turn 2 angler. It felt almost more suicidey/infect with the 2 tbr in the main. I did notice with all the 3 cmc in the sideboars it was sometimes a struggle to find the third land. Would love to hear people's thoughts on the bauble version if anyone has toyed around with it.

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Grixis Death's Shadow Dec 12, 2017
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I like the 3/2 split on push /bolt. Mirran can just finish the game and that's not something I'm OK with lol . And not having to always worry about lands is nice for the revolted push. I also like tbr. Helps just push through creatures (company, affinity, dredge). I run 1 main and 1 in the side. I bring in the extra tbr against games we need to finish early (Tron, burn, valakut) and the bolt snap bolt also helps accomplish this. And I agree with the sideboard. We need cards that have multiple applications against the wide meta

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Grixis Death's Shadow Nov 26, 2017
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Agreed. Would love to know where young p fits. I personally think it's junk. I get after sb people bring in graveyard Hate and it helps. But there has to be better options.

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Grixis Death's Shadow Nov 23, 2017
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Been testing 2 hazoret the fervent in the main with decent results . any thoughts? (Running the 19 land version. 4 shad 3, snap, 3 wraith 2 tasigur, 1 angler, 2 hazoret) by turn 4 or 5 I usually have 1 or less cards. And hazoret turns dead land draws into burn spells.

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Grixis Death's Shadow Nov 4, 2017
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Agreed. I moved k command out of the main and 1 in sideboard. K command is good with snap, but I hardly ever have 5 mana to tap

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Grixis Death's Shadow Nov 3, 2017
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Ya it is a different play style. Probably not better at all lol. I just feel like the deck is missing something . and i hate losing life to never hit a shadow. I took out 4 Street wraith for the 4 delver (3 snappy) . And ran 2 dismember to help with the life loss.

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Grixis Death's Shadow Nov 3, 2017
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Any thoughts on delver of secrets in the main. I feel like the deck is sometimes lacking threats. Especially after sideboard when people bring in graveyard Hate. Young P in the side just doesn't do it for me. Feels wonky.

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