2 main board abrade, 2 sb grudge plus witness and snap feels like over kill. I think a seal of pirmordium plus abrade should be ok
Hazoret has become kerenos
Copy that on the sphere... Good looking out.
I did consider alpine moon. Would you run 2? 3? As a means to make sure we can find it in those match ups?
On that note should I consider a discard outlet in the deck?
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2 main board abrade, 2 sb grudge plus witness and snap feels like over kill.
Hazoret has become kerenos
Copy that on the sphere... Good looking out.
I did consider alpine moon. Would you run 2? 3? As a means to make sure we can find it in those match ups?
On that note should I consider a discard outlet in the deck?
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Totally agree, assuming abrades in the MD I'm here right now competitively in the SB but I want to change some cards. Any recommendations I what's good/bad right now?
Plus it likely frees up at least one spot in most of our side boards. I'm moving over to the rug version from sultai due to what I THINK has better side board cards right now.
I'll hopefully get to play on Monday again but my list will be a little refined to attack an unconventional meta. Half of the players are budget builders so I run into like green stompy and goblins. I also have mill, sramios, and ub control.
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I get that, but isn't it a better card when lingering souls or affinity is good? As a removal spell right now I'd want to argue it's too slow and doesn't hit for 3. Or is it just ALOT better because it gets paired with a blocker most of the time? I haven't played with electrolyze long enough to know.
More seriously, in the RUG version I'm kinda wondering if Risk Factor could replace electrolyze? Adds reach for days if opponent doesn't want us to have card advantage and vice versa.
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I think 2 or 3 flayers will almost be matchup dependent. I think keeping the threat density higher is best. Again he just does so much for the deck. I would LOVE to run bauble but I am SERIOUSLY hard pressed to find room for them! I REALLY like Spell Snare right now and I'm operating fine at 20 land + 1x Traverse Perhaps with more practice if I find flayer is connecting and helping see more cards I could go lower... I'm curious if going down to 3 snaps is viable.
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For sure. In just my first night of playing with him in the deck he was just straight velocity. I think the actual magic is a result of him being a two drop. An early body we can cast for mana if needed or better yet give the ability to hold up mana leak early to play him out via vial feels really nice, the early pressure potential he gives the deck plus potential "ponderesque" ability or fueling the graveyard for either himself, or Goyf, or snapcaster, or witness...That's a REALLY powerful tool that we take a lot of advantage of. Typically people don't like the term removal magnet but hear me out. I'd rather he eats the removal spell than my Goyfs or even my witnesses if I'm trying to set up a soft lock. And until we are able to finally pitch a vial we need a creature in the yard for both Goyf and delirium.
Now we need a similar creature in rug colors.
I hope that's enough to satisfy your inquiry.
Fun story, last night playing against sramioos, once I knew I had control of the game I actually used flayers ability to dump my sideborded bitterblossom and Lily last hope into the gy for a 8/9 Goyf... Dude just scooped it up. #makegoyfgreatagain
Had my first go with eternal command playing the deck I posted above. It was fun to play but I didn't do well, (expected for my first time playing) unusual meta tonight which made things super fun! I lost to dredge and goblins x2. I beat swans. Notes I took away from the night, Liliana was always to slow, better saved in the side board for games she shines, I spent the night in a lot of spots wanting mana leak and to a lesser extent wanting threats to close out games faster. I think trophy is a great card for this deck. I drew it often and played it often mostly out of necessity though. Sadly, it would be a nonbo with leak... :/
Some refining to come and I want to try the rug version too.
Edit: having finally had a chance to read some of the thread or seems my initial thought on omitting flayer are very wrong. Looking forward to trying again with them in.
Hey guys! Curious about thoughts on grim flayer being in the deck. My preference from the last list posted would be to drop confidants and flayers in favour of 2 clique, some spell snares and a flex card, prob a last hope to get more use of azcanta and gy synergy as mentioned 2imu would like to try. Alternatively if it's clocks that the bug list wants to see, (thing is I don't know) I'd reconfigure the following deck list a bit. I'm just used to more control.
The other temur groups have been gushing over faithless looting. Having played it in monkey grow it's a damn good card.
I'll happily play three to turn off cavern in the other aether vial decks to turn on our decks counters.
I'll post up my list later tonight.
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
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2 main board abrade, 2 sb grudge plus witness and snap feels like over kill. I think a seal of pirmordium plus abrade should be ok
Hazoret has become kerenos
Copy that on the sphere... Good looking out.
I did consider alpine moon. Would you run 2? 3? As a means to make sure we can find it in those match ups?
On that note should I consider a discard outlet in the deck?
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
2 main board abrade, 2 sb grudge plus witness and snap feels like over kill.
Hazoret has become kerenos
Copy that on the sphere... Good looking out.
I did consider alpine moon. Would you run 2? 3? As a means to make sure we can find it in those match ups?
On that note should I consider a discard outlet in the deck?
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
3x huntmaster of the fells
3x Fulminator Mage
3x Surgical Extraction
1x pulse of murasa
1x ancient grudge
1x damping sphere
2x anger of the gods
Of note: Abrade can also shoot our own vials to pump Goyf. Lol!
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Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
I'll hopefully get to play on Monday again but my list will be a little refined to attack an unconventional meta. Half of the players are budget builders so I run into like green stompy and goblins. I also have mill, sramios, and ub control.
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
Murmuring Bosk
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
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Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
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Now we need a similar creature in rug colors.
I hope that's enough to satisfy your inquiry.
Fun story, last night playing against sramioos, once I knew I had control of the game I actually used flayers ability to dump my sideborded bitterblossom and Lily last hope into the gy for a 8/9 Goyf... Dude just scooped it up. #makegoyfgreatagain
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
Modern: MONKEY GROW & Amulet Titan
Legacy: RG Lands
EDH: Merieke Ri Berit Esper Good stuff
Some refining to come and I want to try the rug version too.
Edit: having finally had a chance to read some of the thread or seems my initial thought on omitting flayer are very wrong. Looking forward to trying again with them in.
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1 search for azcanta
4 tarmogoyf
2 Vendilion Clique
4 snapcaster mage
3 eternal witness
1 Liliana, the last hope
4 serum visions
1 traverse the ulvenwald
2 collective brutality
3 fatal push
3 assassin's trophy
2 remand
3 cryptic command
3 spell snare
2 verdant catacombs
4 misty rainforest
1 watery grave
2 breeding pool
1 overgrown tomb
1 creeping tar pit
2 island
1 swamp
1 forest
1 thrun, the last troll
2 dispel
1 bitterblossom
1 unmoored ego
2 feed the clan
1 negate
1 seal of primordium
2 damnation
4 leyline of the void
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