played some games and kaya, orzhov usurper is great replacement for 3rd ooze and kalitas. great on control, lantern, affinity, and gy ofcourse but no different thatn ooze or kalitas on gy strategies. it really great on control, it doesn't get sweep compared to ooze and they don't have a lot of answers to it. in artifact strategies like lantern, affinity, and harden scales, its really great constant removal, archbound ravager, hangerback, harden scales, mox opal, compare to ooze that's just a blocker. in gy strategies, its good and bad compared to ooze. on turn 3, its 2 gy cards but ooze in turn 3 is only 1 card removed in gy. cant protect itself when pressured by phoenix, dedge, but really great on gds matchups. but if you're on the play, it can snowball to win. great on humans matchup compared to ooze if you can protect it. but it hits a lot anyhow on humans deck.
kaya is not good against mirror matchups and spirits deck. we would rather have ooze on mirror matchups but for spirits, if we play kaya, the 2 damnation/sweeper plan is better because its not a creature and it doesn't get sweep by out sweepers.
I like it as a 2-off replaceing kalitas and 3rd ooze.
As it is a double mana source, you can treat it like Abrupt Decay. That means in order to cast it consistantly you need to have 14 white and 14 green sources (while in addition have at least 21 lands in your deck that can produce either green or white). So wheel is definitely supportable in abzan.
The new article says 13 and 20 because of vancouver mulligan rule.
Nope it says the numbers I explained, you can see the explanation in the "how to deal with golden cards" section. Here is an example for Emmara:
"Emmara, Soul of the Accord. From the tables, we know that a 1G card needs 13 sources of green, a 1W card needs 13 sources of white, and a CC card needs 20 sources of that color. Hence, for Emmara I would recommend 14 sources of green, 14 sources of white, and 21 different sources that can produce green and/or white."
but this is a hybrid spell flying delver. for hybrid is different. u have a choice of gg, ww, gw.
"For hybrid spells, you need to have enough combined sources of either color in the hybrid cost. For example, if you have four Watery Grave, five Island, and four Swamp, then that’s 13 sources for Discovery // Dispersal on turn two. Perfect."
As it is a double mana source, you can treat it like Abrupt Decay. That means in order to cast it consistantly you need to have 14 white and 14 green sources (while in addition have at least 21 lands in your deck that can produce either green or white). So wheel is definitely supportable in abzan.
U can actually reliably cast wheel of sun and moon in abzan. Algamated abzan decks right now and we have 20 green or white sources. Thats what u need to cast it turn 2.
I honestly don't think so. I think we saw him two times on camera and both times he lost against UW/x Control decks. So the choice of his removal didn't play that much of a role there
Maybe lack of trophy. Trophy can save the matchup but i know lingering souls is bad against uw control now. Bbe is better
So much we can bring so the matchups get better. Just anafenza the foremost can shutdown the phoenix deck. Souls is a good avenue to beat them as well.
yeah traverse list is more competitive. but there's some cases where u get mana screwed with lots of field of ruin, ghost quarter because of low land count. but I think traverse is more flexible and you want to be flexible with this wide meta.
for me ill cut 2 decay and 2 path for playset of throphy and run bg splash white traverse. 2nd forest for plains. still want pulse for token strat. run 4 right now and trim it later.
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kaya is not good against mirror matchups and spirits deck. we would rather have ooze on mirror matchups but for spirits, if we play kaya, the 2 damnation/sweeper plan is better because its not a creature and it doesn't get sweep by out sweepers.
I like it as a 2-off replaceing kalitas and 3rd ooze.
here's my deck right now if im going to play it.
but this is a hybrid spell flying delver. for hybrid is different. u have a choice of gg, ww, gw.
"For hybrid spells, you need to have enough combined sources of either color in the hybrid cost. For example, if you have four Watery Grave, five Island, and four Swamp, then that’s 13 sources for Discovery // Dispersal on turn two. Perfect."
The new article says 13 and 20 because of vancouver mulligan rule.
2 tomb
1 temple g
1 g shrine
1 plain
1 forest
9 fetch
2 shambling
1 treetop
3 blooming marsh
Maybe lack of trophy. Trophy can save the matchup but i know lingering souls is bad against uw control now. Bbe is better
that's what im brewing now but u have to splash souls. that's the only way u can gain CA with grim flayer.