I like this, interesting to consider if the format goes back to Dredge, Humans, Tron, Izzet Phoenix and Wrenn Six Jund, which seems likely. Not sure if UW Control gets better or worse or breaks even.
It's a crazy Modern GY format where 2 mana GY hate just means Game Over (for the person playing GY hate!)
So far, this is a format where you have to beat UW Control, GY decks (Bridgevine, Phoenix, and Dredge), Humans (for now, might also get run out of the format), possibly Neoform, and whatever the latest Whir Prison Combo deck, and then every other possible thing.
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Playable in UW, almost everything flies, but it doesn't stop The New Stoopid. Fair card for a fair format, but that isn't Modern. Tmpo/Aggro Control can't deal with the obscene linearity without disruption. Maybe Force of Negation is playable, not sure it solves the issue either.
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UW can find room quite easily. I think you cut back on -2 Rattlchains, -1 Selfless Spirit, -1 TGoT. Between another 1 drop and more resilience, it seems like a strong addition.
It would be nice to think JT isn't pimping, but who knows.
I posted this because I think it is a novel interaction that has possible applications. Previously I would not have considered Kirin, but it is oddly effective against very land-dependent decks and provides the possibility of multiple one-sided board-wipes in combination with Selfless Spirit. In fact, I think his build is not good because you want 3 of them.
It could just be bad, for the reasons you point out, but I am going to test it (with proxies for now!)
I don't like the idea in the Mono-W Eldrazi and Staxes deck because he took out Reality Smasher to do it, which is kind of crazy.
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I would also expect 3 Damping Sphere and 2 Disdainful Stroke in SpookyGoose's deck to make it solid against Tron, as much as we can be, and the card I think I fear the most in Whir Prison is Bridge and/or Whir into Bridge or EE, and Stony only stops EE. Sideboard, they can bring in Torpor Orb, which also ignored Stony.
Disdainful Stroke is probably okay against Whir, but mostly because removal is bad, but a deck with 4 Thalia + 4 Deputy should do pretty well against Whir.
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Results from GP Bilbao also interesting, and I don't know the lists of those Spirit decks, but I'm betting they ran 2-3 Stony and if they did, it didn't seem to matter much...
"Spirits went:
5-0 versus Mill (100%)
3-10 versus Hardened Scales (23.1%)
2-9 versus Affinity (18.2%)"
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It makes good use of Thalia and Deputy, recognizes that Kira is important for protecting them. I'm not wholly sure on 3 Captain\1 Copter, but it is understandable, as it makes all the weaker creatures better and does filter. It loses the boom of CoCo and the draw engine of Obsession, but it has huge threat density, excellent removal, and the most important non-Spirits.
I am amazed he got away with ZERO Stony Silence, but maybe that was a reasonable call in this meta, especially just going with 3 Damping Sphere for Tron, Combo, but also Phoenix.
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2 Deputy of Detention
4 Drogskol Captain
3 Giver of Runes
4 Mausoleum Wanderer
3 Rattlechains
1 Soulherder
4 Spell Queller
3 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Supreme Phantom
3 Unsettled Mariner
1 Teferi, Time Raveler
4 Aether Vial
1 Batterskull
2 Path to Exile
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
4 Flooded Strand
2 Hallowed Fountain
1 Moorland Haunt
2 Mutavault
4 Seachrome Coast
2 Snow-Covered Island
2 Snow-Covered Plains
2 Waterlogged Grove
3 Damping Sphere
1 Deputy of Detention
2 Eidolon of Rhetoric
1 Kataki, War's Wage
2 Kor Firewalker
3 Negate
2 Rest in Peace
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/untitled-decklist-by-judgecraft-806493
Jund might make Mariner better, I'm kind of so-so on it but taxing removal, hand destruction and edict seems vey relevant especially with Giver.
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Bump that.
It's a crazy Modern GY format where 2 mana GY hate just means Game Over (for the person playing GY hate!)
So far, this is a format where you have to beat UW Control, GY decks (Bridgevine, Phoenix, and Dredge), Humans (for now, might also get run out of the format), possibly Neoform, and whatever the latest Whir Prison Combo deck, and then every other possible thing.
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
4 Mausoleum Wanderer
4 Spell Queller
4 Supreme Phantom
4 Giver of Runes
4 Drogskol Captain
2 Rattlechains
3 Deputy of Detention
3 Selfless Spirit
3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Lands (21)
2 Island
1 Plains
1 Cavern of Souls
4 Flooded Strand
2 Hallowed Fountain
2 Horizon Canopy
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Moorland Haunt
1 Mutavault
1 Mystic Gate
4 Seachrome Coast
4 Aether Vial
1 Smuggler's Copter
3 Path to Exile
3 Damping Sphere
2 Auriok Champion
1 Deputy of Detention
3 Rest in Peace
2 Disdainful Stroke
1 Path to Exile
1 Settle the Wreckage
2 Geist of Saint Traft
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
2 Deputy of Detention
4 Drogskol Captain
4 Mausoleum Wanderer
4 Rattlechains
4 Spell Queller
4 Supreme Phantom
3 Ugin's Conjurant
4 Celestial Kirin
3 Island
2 Plains
3 Cavern of Souls
4 Flooded Strand
2 Hallowed Fountain
1 Moorland Haunt
1 Scalding Tarn
4 Seachrome Coast
1 Flagstones of Trokair
4 Aether Vial
2 Smuggler's Copter
4 Path to Exile
IMO, you would really want:
-2 Copter
-1 PTE
+3 Selfless Spirit
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
I posted this because I think it is a novel interaction that has possible applications. Previously I would not have considered Kirin, but it is oddly effective against very land-dependent decks and provides the possibility of multiple one-sided board-wipes in combination with Selfless Spirit. In fact, I think his build is not good because you want 3 of them.
It could just be bad, for the reasons you point out, but I am going to test it (with proxies for now!)
I don't like the idea in the Mono-W Eldrazi and Staxes deck because he took out Reality Smasher to do it, which is kind of crazy.
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
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Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
Also, yes, Hurkyl seems pretty great, actually.
Tempo
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Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
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"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
Disdainful Stroke is probably okay against Whir, but mostly because removal is bad, but a deck with 4 Thalia + 4 Deputy should do pretty well against Whir.
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
Results from GP Bilbao also interesting, and I don't know the lists of those Spirit decks, but I'm betting they ran 2-3 Stony and if they did, it didn't seem to matter much...
"Spirits went:
5-0 versus Mill (100%)
3-10 versus Hardened Scales (23.1%)
2-9 versus Affinity (18.2%)"
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
That all makes sense, and I found the build quite refreshingly tuned to the moment.
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Eldrazi and Staxes
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DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.
It makes good use of Thalia and Deputy, recognizes that Kira is important for protecting them. I'm not wholly sure on 3 Captain\1 Copter, but it is understandable, as it makes all the weaker creatures better and does filter. It loses the boom of CoCo and the draw engine of Obsession, but it has huge threat density, excellent removal, and the most important non-Spirits.
I am amazed he got away with ZERO Stony Silence, but maybe that was a reasonable call in this meta, especially just going with 3 Damping Sphere for Tron, Combo, but also Phoenix.
Tempo
Modern
Eldrazi and Staxes
Whir Prison
Legacy
5c Humans
DnT
"I'm a lead farmer... !" Quote ruined due to policy.