KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
I'm not saying that you have to talk to Vezok to solve him. I'm saying you still have to convince him to vote with you since he shouldn't know your alignment. Lol at claiming I'm pushing my agenda even you're pushing yours. That's funny
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Grape you're the only person I need to talk to today
What you need to get there if you already aren't?
I think you should be able to see who among us knew how Kami would flip. who tried to solve this game with new info and who just needed to lynch the world they need to push
Lol. Don't feel the need to talk to Vezok, Tom?
Also, narrative. Just like Arkham with his Extortion case.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Grape is almost never scum. Not only has his play been townie generally, there's also the choice of JK target (me) and then him never following that up with a push (which would be the intent of JKing me if he was scum... to block me then claim no kill so therefore I am scum). This play makes no sense given that for it to work they have to gamble on having enough mislynches to make it work.
Wuffles I think is town just because I would absolutely have been an easy scumread after I was blocked and no kill occured. Also I do think he derp cleared himself.
Vezok is scum. Mechanically, he totally could have just protected Grape and that's absolutely a thing that could have happened (ignoring that there is no viable scum left after Wuffles and Grape are clear). I don't beleive he did. I think he is a redirector that didn't use his token and claimed doc so I wouldn't be the only protected person/he knew there wasn't a doc on the town side because redirector. He has also been behaviorally scummy. All he's done is push lynches all game. You can't just call this poor playstyle. There's a brain behind these actions, and the intent is clear. I think I've proven that.
Tom is scum because his early push on Wisp/Wuffles was really bad because he COULD NOT ELIMINATE KK/Ruman from his scumpool. He was just like "These two are scum, no brakes". KK and Ruman barely posted for most of D1. Pushing lynches on Wisp and Wuffles makes no sense from a general town perspective let alone a gamesolve perspective. His push on me today being "He must have TMI'd KK town", "if you were really gamesolving, you'd not be voting Vezok before me", and "two of my PoE's out of three contain KJ, and the other contains me, so its not that" are also the only arguments for my being scum. TMIing KK and his gamesolving argument are simply spin put on my actions. He can't show an actual scum motive for my actions so he has to invent one. Additionally, his gamesolving argument predisposes that I must vote based on mechanics and not behavior... I do not believe Vezok is clear because he claimed Doc, or the timing of that claim. Finally, if all of his PoE's equal me being scum, why hasn't he voted me yet?
Also of note: I still beleive that I caught tom because he was purposely not townreading anyone early game, putting himself in a position to vote onto any wagon as they become convenient. Intent is harder to prove here, but I think it's true.
I will vote either of tom or Vezok today. It's Wuffles like 5% of the time. I'm not gonna play those odds.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
You say I should 100% be going for you over Vezok. But Why would I go after Vezok as scum when you were almost lynched D1? As scum, I totally could have lynched you.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Hey Tom why should vezok not be lynched before you if he's scum?
because my flip mechanically clears him, and if you were trying to solve the game rather than trying to lynch enough townies you would have known that yesterday
That's not what I'm doing and you know it.
When you claimed your watch result, you said grape was targeted by "Vezok and only vezok". Why did you word it that way? We're you expecting others to Target him?
Also I didn't Target anyone last night.
Also also, why didnt you watch the confirmed Townie?
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
KoolKoal: Feel free to take this with a grain of salt since self meta isn't particularly helpful, but I think I get scumread mostly for style over substance, but also for a certain lack of substance over style. It's not so much what I AM posting most of the time (though sometimes that can seem bad) but what I'm NOT posting. I've been told I come to non-obvious conclusions a lot, so when I post, quite a bit of the time there's jumps in logic that people can't follow and they think that's scummy. I get that accusation about a lot of questions I ask specifically. People call them "busy work" when the questions are legit etc.
As far as things to ignore, I can't think of anything. I would suggest you focus less on what I'm doing and more on how I'm doing it. That's probably more likely to be accurate. Like I've just said, what I do tends to come off a little weird, but if you look for how I do it, mindset comes into play and maybe you figure out something useful.
Bickering with Tom is pointless though. He's right about that.
Also, narrative. Just like Arkham with his Extortion case.
Last and Kami are dead town.
Grape is almost never scum. Not only has his play been townie generally, there's also the choice of JK target (me) and then him never following that up with a push (which would be the intent of JKing me if he was scum... to block me then claim no kill so therefore I am scum). This play makes no sense given that for it to work they have to gamble on having enough mislynches to make it work.
Wuffles I think is town just because I would absolutely have been an easy scumread after I was blocked and no kill occured. Also I do think he derp cleared himself.
Vezok is scum. Mechanically, he totally could have just protected Grape and that's absolutely a thing that could have happened (ignoring that there is no viable scum left after Wuffles and Grape are clear). I don't beleive he did. I think he is a redirector that didn't use his token and claimed doc so I wouldn't be the only protected person/he knew there wasn't a doc on the town side because redirector. He has also been behaviorally scummy. All he's done is push lynches all game. You can't just call this poor playstyle. There's a brain behind these actions, and the intent is clear. I think I've proven that.
Tom is scum because his early push on Wisp/Wuffles was really bad because he COULD NOT ELIMINATE KK/Ruman from his scumpool. He was just like "These two are scum, no brakes". KK and Ruman barely posted for most of D1. Pushing lynches on Wisp and Wuffles makes no sense from a general town perspective let alone a gamesolve perspective. His push on me today being "He must have TMI'd KK town", "if you were really gamesolving, you'd not be voting Vezok before me", and "two of my PoE's out of three contain KJ, and the other contains me, so its not that" are also the only arguments for my being scum. TMIing KK and his gamesolving argument are simply spin put on my actions. He can't show an actual scum motive for my actions so he has to invent one. Additionally, his gamesolving argument predisposes that I must vote based on mechanics and not behavior... I do not believe Vezok is clear because he claimed Doc, or the timing of that claim. Finally, if all of his PoE's equal me being scum, why hasn't he voted me yet?
Also of note: I still beleive that I caught tom because he was purposely not townreading anyone early game, putting himself in a position to vote onto any wagon as they become convenient. Intent is harder to prove here, but I think it's true.
I will vote either of tom or Vezok today. It's Wuffles like 5% of the time. I'm not gonna play those odds.
You say I should 100% be going for you over Vezok. But Why would I go after Vezok as scum when you were almost lynched D1? As scum, I totally could have lynched you.
Also, right. Everyone's one shot. Forgot that.
I'm just arguing with scum here. Need other people.
When you claimed your watch result, you said grape was targeted by "Vezok and only vezok". Why did you word it that way? We're you expecting others to Target him?
Also I didn't Target anyone last night.
Also also, why didnt you watch the confirmed Townie?
Also also also vezok who did you doc?