Day 1 Tom knew wuffles was scum, Kami was town, and kj was bad town shouldn't have let myself get pressured into voting before reread.
Who knows if I would have got there but lynching wuffles first would have outed grape so that would have done it
Gg scum. Wuffles was obvious all along but fooled again by grape and extremely suboptimal role usage
I'm at work and been completely swamped. I haven't had a chance to read anything yet. Wuffles messaged me saying he was convinced tom was scum. His main theory was a tom/vezok team but he wanted to not worry about who was scum between Vez and KJ till tomorrow.
Anyway I really would like to talk this through and I am not comfortable with votes being placed this early. Hoping to be able to post more today but might not be till after work.
Current thought is 2 of KJ, Wuffles, tom. Think Vez is probably just town here.
hi
Do your thing whatever
But do you actually believe I might be scum with kj or wuffles?
Really?
Ftr, I think "having an agenda" is a bad way to read me especially and completely NAI in this situation. That wasn't accusatory at all.
Like, game is pretty much solved for everyone but grape. It's you/wuffles vs me/vez
(Yes grape I'm ignoring the youscum world completely)
So having an agenda right now is... just true. For all of us.
No I don't. Vezok is solved for me and the game is pretty much solved for him. And were already on the same page anyway.
Duh
But please, make the argument that's scummy somehow
It's great you're pushing your agenda. You have to.
But you are wasting time trying to convince me I'm scum tell grape.
I hear you're making a case and you clearly have to do better than that
Grape you're the only person I need to talk to today
What you need to get there if you already aren't?
I think you should be able to see who among us knew how Kami would flip. who tried to solve this game with new info and who just needed to lynch the world they need to push
Lolkj not knowing everyone was 1 shot and deciding to save his ability
Just lol
Was gonna say it's up to whoever isn't KJs buddy but since wuffles decided I was scum literally page 1 I guess it has to be town grape or it's over anyway
And yes, I was waiting for claims and a reread for due diligence before voting but
Well
**** it
All the proof I need
Hey Tom why should vezok not be lynched before you if he's scum?
because my flip mechanically clears him, and if you were trying to solve the game rather than trying to lynch enough townies you would have known that yesterday
Initial reaction is it just has to be kj. Like, hard TMIing town Kami and getting ready for his push for today. Plus he was just scummy yesterday.
I do feel a little vindicated for pushing back on the lurker lynch but I got scurred they would flip scum and gave up and even found something that looked scummy wrt hydra communication. So no credit but some vindication.
Was gonna reread overnight once I got the Kami flip, but I got busy and haven't yet.
It does mean grape wasn't the kill, or at least that vez didn't stop one, since no ninja
So unless they skipped the kill n1, it was either kj killer or kj target.
With 5 alive, eliminating teams should be easy.
Vez about as clear as can be, and should never be lynched before me anyway
Grapes jk is the only explanation for no kill, with the added that he's probably not scum that skipped a kill because he used the jk (unless scum with kj, then we have no confirmation)
So:
Kj/wuffles
Kj/grape
Tom/vezok
Seem to be the only viable teams.
I can eliminate one lol
Kj is on the other two…
And that second one is kinda iffy.
With the way vezok claimed and the available roles (he would have to be redirector), he can't be scum with grapefruit because I saw the target. With grape town, claiming is a suicide 1v1 with grape if he had originally targeted anyone but you.
You technically work as ninja if you two thought grape was tracker (or Kami/wuffles if they thought he was watcher and you were the nightkill)
Those are all dumb because he is just giving himself up to grape by trying to townclear him despite a 5 in 6 chance of it proving him scum to grape…
I, on the other hand, can totally be scum without vezok. Behaviorally me/wuffles is nonsense but nothing rules it out mechanically. Me and Kami makes sense with me just trying my best to avoid having to read a hydra and only looking at the [bullshit but maybe correct] reasoning for scumreading them d1 and also no mechanical *****.
Think I even work with last mechanically but that's just not a real world.
Not to mention the actual result of lynching me first which is me flipping town and relegating vezok to *****ty tinfoil worlds.
So I guess what I'm saying here is, regardless of Kami flip, you best come correct tomorrow.
Because I am town with relevant mechanical information and I have apparently decided I care about this game now
Day 1 Tom knew wuffles was scum, Kami was town, and kj was bad town shouldn't have let myself get pressured into voting before reread.
Who knows if I would have got there but lynching wuffles first would have outed grape so that would have done it
Gg scum. Wuffles was obvious all along but fooled again by grape and extremely suboptimal role usage
Do your thing whatever
But do you actually believe I might be scum with kj or wuffles?
Really?
Like, game is pretty much solved for everyone but grape. It's you/wuffles vs me/vez
(Yes grape I'm ignoring the youscum world completely)
So having an agenda right now is... just true. For all of us.
Duh
But please, make the argument that's scummy somehow
It's great you're pushing your agenda. You have to.
But you are wasting time trying to convince me I'm scum tell grape.
I hear you're making a case and you clearly have to do better than that
You and wuffles collectively having nothing on me
What you need to get there if you already aren't?
I think you should be able to see who among us knew how Kami would flip. who tried to solve this game with new info and who just needed to lynch the world they need to push
Just lol
Was gonna say it's up to whoever isn't KJs buddy but since wuffles decided I was scum literally page 1 I guess it has to be town grape or it's over anyway
And yes, I was waiting for claims and a reread for due diligence before voting but
Well
**** it
All the proof I need
vote killjoy
I was briefly sure osi had screwed up again
Baker/messenger targets?
I do feel a little vindicated for pushing back on the lurker lynch but I got scurred they would flip scum and gave up and even found something that looked scummy wrt hydra communication. So no credit but some vindication.
Was gonna reread overnight once I got the Kami flip, but I got busy and haven't yet.
It does mean grape wasn't the kill, or at least that vez didn't stop one, since no ninja
So unless they skipped the kill n1, it was either kj killer or kj target.
With 5 alive, eliminating teams should be easy.
Vez about as clear as can be, and should never be lynched before me anyway
Grapes jk is the only explanation for no kill, with the added that he's probably not scum that skipped a kill because he used the jk (unless scum with kj, then we have no confirmation)
So:
Kj/wuffles
Kj/grape
Tom/vezok
Seem to be the only viable teams.
I can eliminate one lol
Kj is on the other two…
And that second one is kinda iffy.
It's probably kj/wuffles. Like, 90%+
We'd have 2 of [rb/redirect/thief] as roles and... decided to skip it and use none of it? Or tried to kill you and vezok claimed for ????
Like, I know it technically makes sense because I'm the only thing confirming his action but, like, does it?
What's the plan?
With the way vezok claimed and the available roles (he would have to be redirector), he can't be scum with grapefruit because I saw the target. With grape town, claiming is a suicide 1v1 with grape if he had originally targeted anyone but you.
You technically work as ninja if you two thought grape was tracker (or Kami/wuffles if they thought he was watcher and you were the nightkill)
Those are all dumb because he is just giving himself up to grape by trying to townclear him despite a 5 in 6 chance of it proving him scum to grape…
I, on the other hand, can totally be scum without vezok. Behaviorally me/wuffles is nonsense but nothing rules it out mechanically. Me and Kami makes sense with me just trying my best to avoid having to read a hydra and only looking at the [bullshit but maybe correct] reasoning for scumreading them d1 and also no mechanical *****.
Think I even work with last mechanically but that's just not a real world.
Not to mention the actual result of lynching me first which is me flipping town and relegating vezok to *****ty tinfoil worlds.
So I guess what I'm saying here is, regardless of Kami flip, you best come correct tomorrow.
Because I am town with relevant mechanical information and I have apparently decided I care about this game now
You're too smart to think voting vezok over me is correct
You're too good at this game to be this bad