This is neither friendly to new users, nor respectful to other people's opinions.
Do you think that there is this minor possibility that some people have invested thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours of their life into a format they once loved, only to see it transform in to an amalgamation of trash and frustration that bares no resemblance to what it once was?
I don't really understand this argument, although I do see it a lot. The cards from Twin held their value, and are in fact more valuable now than they ever have been. If you hate Modern, feel free to cash out for a profit!
It only took 3 years to get there! (and I did cash out on MTGO, my LGS is small, couldnt absorb my collection a few weeks back when I went to sell out.)
Phoenix's numbers shouldn't be that high, because it's not THAT good. It's not 20% good, it's 10% good. Dredge and other similar strategies keep its natural predators down, and I'm talking from much experience.
At the same time only a very small % refuses to play the format, and as such the argument that this metagame drives people away is a bit moot at this point. However, it needs to taken into account that almost a third don't enjoy the format.
If they have been driven away, are they gonna vote.
They did clearly (as you did, since you voted for #5)
For real thats your answer? I've gone on 8 Month+ breaks before. Nearly completely missed the Treasure Cruise era. If this poll happened then? I would never have seen it.
You are more reasonable than this. If someone is completely checked out, they would not bother to vote. They would be 'step 6' on your poll. 'I dont even care about Modern at all at this point.'
At the same time only a very small % refuses to play the format, and as such the argument that this metagame drives people away is a bit moot at this point. However, it needs to taken into account that almost a third don't enjoy the format.
If they have been driven away, are they gonna vote.
As I noted, people can have opinion's that wildly diverge from the average. If someone says a 3 deck meta is healthy, who are we to disagree? What is 'healthy'? Its about as meaningless as 'linear' and 'fair'.
That said, there are actual truth's. No, you cannot take your 'Standard deck' and win a GP. No you cannot 'take anything' add some 'targeted GY Hate' and win a GP, and yes, there is an overwhelming best deck, and its not 'overrated'.
These are truth's, and to claim otherwise is disingenuous, if not outright lying in the face of the GLOBAL RESULTS of the last weekend.
I know you are on twitter, so I know that you have seen me provide the answer to the formats issues, and it's not bans.
EDIT: That said there are only 2 paths. Unban's, or ban a lot. I have zero hope for any improved Cantrips after this passed weekend, and I would be stunned if there are any in Horizons.
I also feel you are not engaging in good faith, and it may just be time to go our separate ways on things.
I've seen you post enough to think that its unreal you do not simply play Phoenix (now) UW (middle last year) or GDS. You always mention variance, yet you never play decks to limit it.
There is a reason I can never play a deck without cantrips, I simply refuse to let my own deck beat me, yet you seem to never pick up those consistency tool based decks.
Anyone is capable of succeeding in any of these big Constructed formats. If you are suddenly experiencing significant difficulties with a format, there are probably a series of small to large issues with your format engagement that are leading to those difficulties. Possibilities include attitude, tunnelvision, autopilot, deck/card choices, lack of perspective, self-expectation, and many others. Goodness knows I've had most/all of those. In fact, I had a similar performance drop in the recent year and did take a break from both Modern and Standard before returning and feeling better.
100% and this happened to me on Arena before I gave that up as well. I was getting caught in lines I knew I should have recognized, missed obvious play patterns, and was simply on 'autopilot' grinding out Best of One games over and over and over, before I finally caught myself literally clicking through whatever my opponent was doing, while I just waited to queue up again so I could win the die roll and burn them out.
Have not gone back to Arena since, and am buying back into Blue Moon on MTGO (I DID actually sell out, dont even remember doing so I must have been quite tilted!) so I can play it in a few months. Least I still have it in Paper! lol
Either way, I fully recommend taking breaks from formats, or the game, just to reset the focus. There are off seasons in sports for a reason.
You may just be a bit burnt out, not thinking the lines through in a current sense, because you have 'done it so much' already.
When I go on big binge's of grinding Modern, it eventually becomes rote. I know people love it say Magic is so complicated, but it really isnt. I have winning percentages on Blue Moon under almost every configuration from the last time I was playing 'serious' but when I see the tide turning and decks I have no interest in playing with OR against come to be the top dog? Why continue? I'm in it for the enjoyment, not the grind. When the meta sours, I've got a half dozen other ways to dump time and money.
Also, you can play any deck you like and with some targeted graveyard hate, you are set to do well in any tournament.
You cannot actually believe this to be true, do you? After this last weekend? Its a demonstrably false statement.
EDIT: And I call this out, because you are free to have your opinions, you are free to think a 3 deck meta is healthy, and you are free to enjoy a constant churn. I like to see you take say...BG Explore from Standard, and top 8 a GP, but hey if you REALLY believe you can take a Standard deck into Modern and do well, thats great.
To claim you can play what you want and do well however if you add some 'targeted graveyard hate' is absolutely false.
I highly doubt that player satisfaction with the format has anything to do with ban timing right now. Nothing will be touched until Horizon's hits. It would take a complete implosion to have it go otherwise dont you think?
As to the poll numbers, if a 3rd of your most enfranchised customers are not happy with your product, well, I know in my work head's would be rolling over those kinds of numbers.
IMO format diversity is my favorite part of Modern. You make a deck and try to use whatever resources you packed to win. It requires a lot of thought in and around the game. It encourages you to focus outside of the game building said deck, and then in matches and games determining how to best use those resources.
The poll is a personal one. Feel free to look at the start of my last post.
Its impossible to argue the format is not popular and successful, and therefore enjoyable to many. I dont know how anyone is going to quantify an argument against those statements.
Either way, I'm not interested in getting dragged over this, when people will not even think about the potential of removing some of these egregious cards. If you dont face down (or you actually enjoy) the top decks of the format over and over, thats great, I'm glad you enjoy it.
I, personally, my own opinion, feel the format is terrible. Yes I'm going to generalize, but...thats kind of what you are asking for here. 'Do you enjoy Modern'? No. You asked a general question. I provide a general answer. That answer has not changed in months on end, because while people celebrated the KCI ban, I shrugged because it does not change what Modern fundamentally is within the 'winners meta'.
If you want a more nuanced, long and thoughtful answer/discussion around certain cards, or hell even the format all together, I wouldnt mind that Swan Song but if you are going to call me out for a 'wide generalization' when thats the point of your question/poll? I'm going to just have to pass on that discourse.
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It only took 3 years to get there! (and I did cash out on MTGO, my LGS is small, couldnt absorb my collection a few weeks back when I went to sell out.)
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My bad.
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I wish we could discuss this further.
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For real thats your answer? I've gone on 8 Month+ breaks before. Nearly completely missed the Treasure Cruise era. If this poll happened then? I would never have seen it.
You are more reasonable than this. If someone is completely checked out, they would not bother to vote. They would be 'step 6' on your poll. 'I dont even care about Modern at all at this point.'
My signature says it all.
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If they have been driven away, are they gonna vote.
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That said, there are actual truth's. No, you cannot take your 'Standard deck' and win a GP. No you cannot 'take anything' add some 'targeted GY Hate' and win a GP, and yes, there is an overwhelming best deck, and its not 'overrated'.
These are truth's, and to claim otherwise is disingenuous, if not outright lying in the face of the GLOBAL RESULTS of the last weekend.
PLEASE MODS UNLOCK THE STATE OF MODERN.
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EDIT: That said there are only 2 paths. Unban's, or ban a lot. I have zero hope for any improved Cantrips after this passed weekend, and I would be stunned if there are any in Horizons.
I also feel you are not engaging in good faith, and it may just be time to go our separate ways on things.
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There is a reason I can never play a deck without cantrips, I simply refuse to let my own deck beat me, yet you seem to never pick up those consistency tool based decks.
Why?
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100% and this happened to me on Arena before I gave that up as well. I was getting caught in lines I knew I should have recognized, missed obvious play patterns, and was simply on 'autopilot' grinding out Best of One games over and over and over, before I finally caught myself literally clicking through whatever my opponent was doing, while I just waited to queue up again so I could win the die roll and burn them out.
Have not gone back to Arena since, and am buying back into Blue Moon on MTGO (I DID actually sell out, dont even remember doing so I must have been quite tilted!) so I can play it in a few months. Least I still have it in Paper! lol
Either way, I fully recommend taking breaks from formats, or the game, just to reset the focus. There are off seasons in sports for a reason.
Spirits
When I go on big binge's of grinding Modern, it eventually becomes rote. I know people love it say Magic is so complicated, but it really isnt. I have winning percentages on Blue Moon under almost every configuration from the last time I was playing 'serious' but when I see the tide turning and decks I have no interest in playing with OR against come to be the top dog? Why continue? I'm in it for the enjoyment, not the grind. When the meta sours, I've got a half dozen other ways to dump time and money.
Spirits
You cannot actually believe this to be true, do you? After this last weekend? Its a demonstrably false statement.
EDIT: And I call this out, because you are free to have your opinions, you are free to think a 3 deck meta is healthy, and you are free to enjoy a constant churn. I like to see you take say...BG Explore from Standard, and top 8 a GP, but hey if you REALLY believe you can take a Standard deck into Modern and do well, thats great.
To claim you can play what you want and do well however if you add some 'targeted graveyard hate' is absolutely false.
Spirits
As to the poll numbers, if a 3rd of your most enfranchised customers are not happy with your product, well, I know in my work head's would be rolling over those kinds of numbers.
Spirits
You just described Magic, in a general sense.
That is not Modern, in a competitive sense.
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Either way, I'm not interested in getting dragged over this, when people will not even think about the potential of removing some of these egregious cards. If you dont face down (or you actually enjoy) the top decks of the format over and over, thats great, I'm glad you enjoy it.
I, personally, my own opinion, feel the format is terrible. Yes I'm going to generalize, but...thats kind of what you are asking for here. 'Do you enjoy Modern'? No. You asked a general question. I provide a general answer. That answer has not changed in months on end, because while people celebrated the KCI ban, I shrugged because it does not change what Modern fundamentally is within the 'winners meta'.
If you want a more nuanced, long and thoughtful answer/discussion around certain cards, or hell even the format all together, I wouldnt mind that Swan Song but if you are going to call me out for a 'wide generalization' when thats the point of your question/poll? I'm going to just have to pass on that discourse.
Spirits