I’m happy you never really managed to explain well how you went from KJ is scum, even with a vote in lylo, to being so sure it’s not KJ.
I still wonder why that was
Something just dawned on me.
With the hammer opportunities (and disregarding Anak lol), there are only 3 possible teams left:
Osie/Lngr
Osie/KJ
Rhand/Lngr
Which means from Lngr’s POV, there’s only one: Osie/KJ.
So @Lngr: why are you rereading me?
The above is Anak’s POV.
Osie’s is Rhand/Lngr
KJ’s is Lngr scum with Osie or Rhand
Mine is Osie scum with Lngr or KJ
With Lngr pushing KJ and now putting me before Osie in his rereads, I’m totally convinced it’s Osie/Lngr.
So you have mechanical reasons to lynch LnGrrrR first, but you're still going for your behavioral reasons on me.
Shadow could still have lied about his target, and Anak's reads are SO wrong here that I'm starting to doubt his alignment.
I'mma put Anak back on the table with LnGrrrR for now. (Possible but less likely with Rhand because of the hammer potential.) LnGrrrR there's still a higher chance that he hasn't noticed Rhand's vote on me, and that Anak realized that LnGrrrR wasn't online. I still think Rhand+LnGrrrR is the most likely team, with a swap during the day phase from LnGrrrR as the powerwolf and Rhand as the limp noodle to Rhand as the powerwolf and LnGrrrR as the limp noodle.
Killjoy is the most behaviorally town player.
So possible teams for me in order of likelihood:
Rhand+LnGrrrR - VERY likely
Anak+LnGrrrR - Possible
Anak+Rhand - Moderately Unlikely
Killjoy+LnGrrrR - Unlikely
Killjoy+Rhand - VERY unlikely
@Osie: why wouldn’t Lngr have given up if I were scum with him? Why does that logic only apply to teams with you in it?
And if you’re taking the wine-route anyway: why would I as scum claim a watch shot without result in lylo?
You and KJ are not pushing the same team. You are on Lngr/Rhand while KJ is on Lngr/?, leaning Lngr/Osie.
No idea why you two haven't gone for each other first other than wine. Honestly, once I started celebrating figuring out the team early Day 1, I kinda checked out for a bit.
Watch shot? What a useless question.
KJ and I WERE both on LnGrrrR/Rhand. Though it's possible that you've won the pocketing game.
If I'm scum with Killjoy, why doesn't one of us just try to lynch the other at this point, and the other one just give up? It comes out better for the win for the team.
If I'm scum with LnGrrrR, why doesn't he just give up and let himself be lynched a long time ago, or why doesn't he just vote me so I can give up?
It's a play that people have said is likely to clear. It's a play that I would have thought of in either case, and probably Killjoy or LnGrrrR as well. There's no reason for those people to go for the risky 3/2 win when a 2/1 win is just as good of a win.
Rhand and LnGrrrR are the team which is cross-pushing. LnGrrrR on Rhand and Killjoy, Rhand on LnGrrrR and Osie.
@Anak: Who do you think is my buddy? LnGrrrR? Rhand agrees with you. Killjoy? LnGrrrR agrees with you and I promise you Rhand will vote there. I have no intention of voting for Killjoy since he's probably town, but I will keep my vote on LnGrrrR. I'm out for the night. I probably won't be on for another 15 hours. Feel free to lynch LnGrrrR in that time. Or not. Up to you if you still want a chance to win this game.
Also, LnGrrrR hasn't interacted with Rhand at all D2, and Rhand has only interacted with LnGrrrR in so much as asking him to claim, linking him to me, and adding him in on a question to me.
Whereas for comparison, Killjoy and myself have each interacted with each of the other three non-confirmed players a moderate to large amount.
Also, LnGrrrR hasn't interacted with Rhand at all D2, and Rhand has only interacted with LnGrrrR in so much as asking him to claim, linking him to me, and adding him in on a question to me.
If you were really convinced with all your “don’t act like teammates” statements, you would at least know who you were calling scum yesterDay.
IN DAY 2.
I've regularly qualified that KJ/LnGrrrR, KJ/Osie, and Osie/LnGrrrR don't act like teammates IN DAY 2.
Anak's mention of thinking that there might be scum theatre is the first instance of anyone giving reasoning otherwise as far as Day 2 interactions go.
Outside of maybe your argument on Osie/LnGrrrR, but that's a dubious one, especially considering that you couldn't even get post numbers correct, and I'm still never the lynch before LnGrrrR at that point.
If you were really convinced with all your “don’t act like teammates” statements, you would at least know who you were calling scum yesterDay.
IN DAY 2.
I've regularly qualified that KJ/LnGrrrR, KJ/Osie, and Osie/LnGrrrR don't act like teammates IN DAY 2.
Anak's mention of thinking that there might be scum theatre is the first instance of anyone giving reasoning otherwise as far as Day 2 interactions go.
LOL.
Hard tone reads on 261-287
So you have mechanical reasons to lynch LnGrrrR first, but you're still going for your behavioral reasons on me.
Shadow could still have lied about his target, and Anak's reads are SO wrong here that I'm starting to doubt his alignment.
I'mma put Anak back on the table with LnGrrrR for now. (Possible but less likely with Rhand because of the hammer potential.) LnGrrrR there's still a higher chance that he hasn't noticed Rhand's vote on me, and that Anak realized that LnGrrrR wasn't online. I still think Rhand+LnGrrrR is the most likely team, with a swap during the day phase from LnGrrrR as the powerwolf and Rhand as the limp noodle to Rhand as the powerwolf and LnGrrrR as the limp noodle.
Killjoy is the most behaviorally town player.
So possible teams for me in order of likelihood:
Rhand+LnGrrrR - VERY likely
Anak+LnGrrrR - Possible
Anak+Rhand - Moderately Unlikely
Killjoy+LnGrrrR - Unlikely
Killjoy+Rhand - VERY unlikely
No idea why you two haven't gone for each other first other than wine. Honestly, once I started celebrating figuring out the team early Day 1, I kinda checked out for a bit.
Watch shot? What a useless question.
KJ and I WERE both on LnGrrrR/Rhand. Though it's possible that you've won the pocketing game.
If I'm scum with Killjoy, why doesn't one of us just try to lynch the other at this point, and the other one just give up? It comes out better for the win for the team.
If I'm scum with LnGrrrR, why doesn't he just give up and let himself be lynched a long time ago, or why doesn't he just vote me so I can give up?
It's a play that people have said is likely to clear. It's a play that I would have thought of in either case, and probably Killjoy or LnGrrrR as well. There's no reason for those people to go for the risky 3/2 win when a 2/1 win is just as good of a win.
Rhand and LnGrrrR are the team which is cross-pushing. LnGrrrR on Rhand and Killjoy, Rhand on LnGrrrR and Osie.
The only night action according to claims is LnGrrrR's false claim of motivator.
Vote LnGrrrR today and Rhand can push his mislynch on me tomorrow.
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Anyways...
@Killjoy: I've been very confident today. Manipulative, not so much.
Whereas for comparison, Killjoy and myself have each interacted with each of the other three non-confirmed players a moderate to large amount.
Also, LnGrrrR hasn't interacted with Rhand at all D2, and Rhand has only interacted with LnGrrrR in so much as asking him to claim, linking him to me, and adding him in on a question to me.
Outside of maybe your argument on Osie/LnGrrrR, but that's a dubious one, especially considering that you couldn't even get post numbers correct, and I'm still never the lynch before LnGrrrR at that point.
IN DAY 2.
I've regularly qualified that KJ/LnGrrrR, KJ/Osie, and Osie/LnGrrrR don't act like teammates IN DAY 2.
Anak's mention of thinking that there might be scum theatre is the first instance of anyone giving reasoning otherwise as far as Day 2 interactions go.