Indeed they are, however the general discussion around Blood Sun was its viability in combination with this in Standard, not the formats where most of those land destruction spells are playable. If somebody is playing 4 mana land destruction in Standard then I'm probably winning that game anyway...
Gotta use what you can get, and the ones in Standard currently aren't that difficult to cast turn 3.
T1: Forest, Elf.
T2: Land, Mana stone of choice.
T3: Rain on your parade with LD.
I mean, I can count four different four mana LD spells in standard right now, and if we continue to modern, the number of available LD spells for four mana or less becomes thirty three, the cheapest of which can be cast for two mana. If people start playing the Blood Sun/Lotus Field combo, expect Land Destruction to become a thing in both standard and modern.
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Stop saying 'strictly better', this thing enters tapped.
It also has hexproof. You know, the thing that makes your opponent unable to target the permanent, at all. And the drawback is very easy to get around.
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Yeah, cards like this really test the definition of “strictly better”.
This card is better than Lotus Vale in a couple of very significant ways,
but entering tapped keeps it from being strictly better.
I still want several myself, I already used Lotus Vale in a couple of EDH decks,
and this will work better since LV almost always dies to Strip Mine rather than Armageddon.
I use Lotus Vale already in Windgrace, as well as Scorched Ruins, so... One more land to sacrifice stuff to would be great.
I just hope they reprint crucible in M20 or the fall set, so I can finally get one.
Can anyone explain why this is not one of the worst cards in this set?
Maybe it's because I'm a Standard player, but I can't think of a single deck that would ever want this. You can't play it on turn 1 or 2. If you play it on turn 3, you forfeit that turn.
If you're a 1- or 2-color deck, you don't need fixing like this. And if you're a many-colored deck, you'd much rather have the two dual-lands you just sacrificed than a land that can only produce one color of mana at a time.
What am I missing here?
That not every card is made for every format? This card is obviously for Commander. That said, the lands you sacrifice don't *have* to be untapped, so you only forfeit your turn if you don't cast anything beforehand. And even then, there are plenty of ways to get around the "enter's play tapped" restriction.
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Not being able to be targeted by your opponent makes it better, even if it does enter tapped (which is easy to get around). I will be getting at least one, preferably four, but at least one so I have a copy for my Windgrace deck.
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Gotta use what you can get, and the ones in Standard currently aren't that difficult to cast turn 3.
T1: Forest, Elf.
T2: Land, Mana stone of choice.
T3: Rain on your parade with LD.
I mean, I can count four different four mana LD spells in standard right now, and if we continue to modern, the number of available LD spells for four mana or less becomes thirty three, the cheapest of which can be cast for two mana. If people start playing the Blood Sun/Lotus Field combo, expect Land Destruction to become a thing in both standard and modern.
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Stone Rain, Pillage, Demolish, Rain of Tears, Winter's Grasp, etc. are all a thing in various formats.
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It also removes hexproof though, so if your opponent has land removal the land is not sticking around for long.
It also has hexproof. You know, the thing that makes your opponent unable to target the permanent, at all. And the drawback is very easy to get around.
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I use Lotus Vale already in Windgrace, as well as Scorched Ruins, so... One more land to sacrifice stuff to would be great.
I just hope they reprint crucible in M20 or the fall set, so I can finally get one.
That not every card is made for every format? This card is obviously for Commander. That said, the lands you sacrifice don't *have* to be untapped, so you only forfeit your turn if you don't cast anything beforehand. And even then, there are plenty of ways to get around the "enter's play tapped" restriction.
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Not being able to be targeted by your opponent makes it better, even if it does enter tapped (which is easy to get around). I will be getting at least one, preferably four, but at least one so I have a copy for my Windgrace deck.
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Numquam evolutioni obstes. Solum conculceris.
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Numquam evolutioni obstes. Solum conculceris.
Pascite draconem, evolvite aut morimini.