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This card is stupid. And I don’t mean that in a good way.


2 mana (one being generic) for a 2/3 is good enough. Then you give it a static ability, a crazy good one.

Then you give it a 4 mana effect as strong as that? I hate it.

I have decks I should run this in and I don’t think I will just on principle.

A 2 mana 2/3 is not good enough for standard.

Solid cherry picking there bud

You said "2 mana (one being generic) for a 2/3 is good enough". What was that supposed to mean? For limited? Well this card is obviously designed with constructed at least partly in mind.
I don't think the uncounterable ability is 'crazy good' either, actually. It's good. But it's only good against blue decks and not every blue decks even runs any counterspells let alone enough for this to be crazy good. Prowling Serpopard was never a terror in standard or any other format.
Having both the abilities this card does ensure it actually see play because a 2 mana 2/3 wouldn't and this is obviously meant to push enchantment decks, because of course. Yes, it's strong. But it's not ridiculous. Questing Beast is easily more egregious as a card that's just very blatantly pushed IMO.

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I mean, Blue is not really an enchantment color though. To the best of my knowledge it has very little enchantment support. If this was Artifacts it would be one thing, but it’s not. I don’t believe Green becomes a premier Artifact support color in blocks like Kaladesh/Mirrodin. I could be wrong but at least I didn’t recall anything too crazy, maybe as part of a cycle which this isn’t.

It doesn't have to be just Blue. Just any other color. Green is anti-artifact. It has a reason for it. Green hates artifice and civilized things. They're a perversion of nature. Other colors have no reason to feel similarly about enchantments. Except maybe Red. There's just no reason to so heavily load Green with such strong support but almost nothing for other colors. White is barely even getting anything compared to Green.

White has gotten Idyllic Tutor, Archon of Sun's Grace, Banishing Light and Starfield Mystic from M20, among other enchantment related cards. It's hardly missing out. Black too, has gotten some good cards with Treacherous Blessing, Aphemia, the Cacophony, and Tymaret Calls the Dead. What has green gotten that's so disproportionate? This, Setessan Champion, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Nyx Herald?
Green is getting quite strong enchantment support, yeah, but green isn't being heavily loaded with support while the others get 'almost nothing'.

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This card is stupid. And I don’t mean that in a good way.


2 mana (one being generic) for a 2/3 is good enough. Then you give it a static ability, a crazy good one.

Then you give it a 4 mana effect as strong as that? I hate it.

I have decks I should run this in and I don’t think I will just on principle.

A 2 mana 2/3 is not good enough for standard.

Well, this is an autoinclude for any green inclusive enchantment deck in standard, and probably pioneer and edh too.