Imagine you could relax the four-of rule for one card during deck construction, so that instead of the current construction rules, brewers could use any number of basic lands, any number of Relentless Rats, and any number of one other card, and then no more than 4 of any other card. Assume the usual restricted and banned lists apply. What card would you choose, and in what deck?
Would you play with 16 Squadron Hawks? 7 Jaces? 40 Lightning Bolts? 36 Lightning Bolts and 4 Pyromancer's Ascension? 60 Mishra's Factory?
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Of course, what makes a deck run well and win consistently is its versatility and durability, and all the decks here suffer from Relentless Rats syndrome (they are entirely shut down by a single copy of Chalice of the Void, Null Rod, Trinisphere, or Redirect), but that's besides the point.
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Of course, what makes a deck run well and win consistently is its versatility and durability, and all the decks here suffer from Relentless Rats syndrome (they are entirely shut down by a single copy of Chalice of the Void, Null Rod, Trinisphere, or Redirect), but that's besides the point.
No, that is the point! How does the metagame adapt within those constraints? I didn't know about Ripple effects - that's a real beating - but older formats have all kinds of nasty things they can do already. Maybe you'd still be better off playing a standby, with like six copies of a staple card instead of four. After all, how long before you run into:
No, that is the point! How does the metagame adapt within those constraints? I didn't know about Ripple effects - that's a real beating - but older formats have all kinds of nasty things they can do already. Maybe you'd still be better off playing a standby, with like six copies of a staple card instead of four. After all, how long before you run into:
Ripple would likely beat that atleast half the time (and much better when on the play). You would need to mulligan into a surgical extraction to stop the T1 kills.
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ExpiredRascals you sir are a god-like hero.
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I opened one last year, got two crap worldwake packs and 8x scathe zombies, which I promptly hid around my sister's apartment for her roommates to find. But, yeah, it was a piece of crap.
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Maybe that's even more powerful that I initially thought - does the Ripple still go off even if the spell is countered? Or can you reliably cast multiple Surging Flames on T1? I was building around just living to extract or extirpate T1 on the draw, which would mean you could afford to mulligan less aggressively, but I didn't really goldfish it.
If you gave up on mana entirely and went a straight 56/4 with FoW and SE and mulliganed aggressively, it looks like you can have the Extraction and four or more Forces a around 60% of the time, and an Extraction and two or more forces around 73%, which seems pretty backbreaking for one-trick ponies.
Surging flame might still be the backbone of the best deck, though, since you only have to successfully hard-cast one of those spirit guides to win, and FoW is running at terrible card disadvantage. Plus, an extraction of your own would deck ForceOfWill.dec right quick.
Would you play with 16 Squadron Hawks? 7 Jaces? 40 Lightning Bolts? 36 Lightning Bolts and 4 Pyromancer's Ascension? 60 Mishra's Factory?
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StaffYou don't need the burn spell. Just have the right ratio of lotuses and recalls then you will deck your opponent on turn 1.
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These wouldnt work, since the topic is about ignoring the rule for ONE card.
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ok then
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Of course, what makes a deck run well and win consistently is its versatility and durability, and all the decks here suffer from Relentless Rats syndrome (they are entirely shut down by a single copy of Chalice of the Void, Null Rod, Trinisphere, or Redirect), but that's besides the point.
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No, that is the point! How does the metagame adapt within those constraints? I didn't know about Ripple effects - that's a real beating - but older formats have all kinds of nasty things they can do already. Maybe you'd still be better off playing a standby, with like six copies of a staple card instead of four. After all, how long before you run into:
4 Extirpate
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Or something similar?
Ripple would likely beat that atleast half the time (and much better when on the play). You would need to mulligan into a surgical extraction to stop the T1 kills.
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its not inferior, its the budget version. you know, for those building on a budget
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If you gave up on mana entirely and went a straight 56/4 with FoW and SE and mulliganed aggressively, it looks like you can have the Extraction and four or more Forces a around 60% of the time, and an Extraction and two or more forces around 73%, which seems pretty backbreaking for one-trick ponies.
Surging flame might still be the backbone of the best deck, though, since you only have to successfully hard-cast one of those spirit guides to win, and FoW is running at terrible card disadvantage. Plus, an extraction of your own would deck ForceOfWill.dec right quick.
Lol. Even Leyline of Sanctity doesn't stop that. But it gets hosed in the mirror by:
Maybe there should be a 60-card cap. That's an intersting problem, since you can't afford to mulligan, so you have very little space for other cards:
1 Surgical Extraction
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now we have a standard slug deck ^^
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