Voting to keep Liliana- she's our most reliable tutor, since we're apparently gonna axe the actual tutor and the Demon is WE fodder. we NEED the tutor.
@Tev: WHAT MANA EXCEL!?
Voting to axe Putrid Imp. seriously? i do not see why this has been added- aside from discard engine. we kinda had that with Zombie Infestation... and since the discard engine is only effective when we have WE out, early on- he's effectively useless. i'd rather run Spellshapers that late.
voting to remove 1 of each:
Phyrexian Arena- we don't need three. it's a detriment to run three, and with this on the field, it only impedes what we can WE. we're hoping to drop something with WE, and we draw cards-- and one we just drew gets freecasted... and it's a Putrid Imp.
Rakdos Signet- thinning mostly. it'd suck to Evoke this into play when we're hoping for something better.
SELVAXRI! King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers "Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can." 375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev) Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
I don't really want to vote on anything else, either I suggested it, my suggest cuts have been countermanded or I think its good and I want it to stay.
Vote to cut 2 damnation. Can potentially hurt us if we have no way to get rid of it. Pass.
Vote to cut 1 Ryusei, 1 Kokusho, - Legendary, don't want to draw when when one is out. We ahve tutors to get them if we need them, and other dumb beaters if we want to draw that.
Vote to cut Blightning. We don't have enough discard. This is more likely to just remove whatever chaff is left in their hands, letting them increase their odds of getting what they want. We don't have nearly enough discard to clear their hands, or keep them clear.
This deck is a mess. there's barely any discard to prevent our opponent from WE'ing; we just have a bunch of biggie's to freecast- in hopes of doing something productivve.
Voting to cut Shriekmaw down to 2, likewise with Terminate and Blightning. mostly for thinning purposes. Bligtning is our only reliable discard/burn...
voting to axe Debtors' Knell- there's not enough discard to make this guy useful, nor are there any reliable creature-destruction to do likewise.
Voting to keep Decree of Pain. it's our best sweeper... cycle it for a Massacre or freecast it for some serious pain.
SELVAXRI! King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers "Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can." 375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev) Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
Voting to cut phage, she has no evasion.
Voting to cut debtors
Voting to cut signet, its bad late game and we already have enough two drops.
Voting to cut the totem.
Voting to cut one Batterskull, we have four tutors.
Voting to up arena to three, we actually want to see it.
I also think we should max out blighting, we currently have no protection for WE other than Blight and possibly Vess.
Im going to +1 Phage. She may not have Evasion, but she will at the very least draw attention to herself and the opponent will have to deal with her then, or lose to her.
I'm invoking a +1 to keep her in for the time being.
I also think that the deck still needs ways to make the Evocation non-symetrical, so we can gain more benefit than our foe. I wouldn't play this deck because I know people with massive penchants for running Eldrazi and BSC. We need ways to stop that from happening.
I wouldn't play this deck because I know people with massive penchants for running Eldrazi and BSC. We need ways to stop that from happening.
I know what you mean...a lot of discard was voted out.
However, I have a bit of a different outlook on GMAD. It's easy to look at the final decklist and make my own tweaks where necessary. I certainly will have to replace a few of the more expensive cards if I wish to build this deck. That's why I play test on Cockatrice or with proxies before I commit to purchasing cards.
Voting to remove 1 Batterskull. We have tutors to find it.
Voting to remove Foriysian Totem. We'll never use it.
Voting to remove 1 Shriekmaw. We have other removal.
Technically, I could evoke my "three votes" rule and finish the deck there, but I don't like doing that.
EDIT: I'm using rule 1.1.3 because I'd like to finish this and give someone else a turn. The deck is finished. I like it--I can work with it.
@Tev: WHAT MANA EXCEL!?
Voting to axe Putrid Imp. seriously? i do not see why this has been added- aside from discard engine. we kinda had that with Zombie Infestation... and since the discard engine is only effective when we have WE out, early on- he's effectively useless. i'd rather run Spellshapers that late.
voting to remove 1 of each:
Phyrexian Arena- we don't need three. it's a detriment to run three, and with this on the field, it only impedes what we can WE. we're hoping to drop something with WE, and we draw cards-- and one we just drew gets freecasted... and it's a Putrid Imp.
Rakdos Signet- thinning mostly. it'd suck to Evoke this into play when we're hoping for something better.
added 2 Graven Cairns and fixed the mana base...
4 Putrid Imp (-1)
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
3 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Flametongue Kavu
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell
3 Phyrexian Arena ([EMAIL="1@-1"]1@-1[/EMAIL])
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 8
3 Blightning
2 Decree of Pain
1 Diabolic Tutor (-2)
2 Damnation (-1)
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 10
3 Rakdos Signet ([EMAIL="1@-1"]1@-1[/EMAIL])
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
I agree that we don't need three Phyrexian Arena. Voting to remove 1.
4 Putrid Imp (-2)
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
3 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Flametongue Kavu
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell
3 Phyrexian Arena (2 @ -1)
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 8
3 Blightning
2 Decree of Pain
1 Diabolic Tutor (-2)
2 Damnation (-1)
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 10
3 Rakdos Signet ([EMAIL="1@-1"]1@-1[/EMAIL])
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
Thanks to GR @ Yavin IV Studios for the signature!
I'll help kill the Imp. Vote to remove. Pass.
Vote to reduce Arena to 2. Pass.
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
3 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Flametongue Kavu
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 8
3 Blightning
2 Decree of Pain
1 Diabolic Tutor (-2)
2 Damnation (-1)
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 10
3 Rakdos Signet ([EMAIL="1@-1"]1@-1[/EMAIL])
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
Mid-Tier: Marchesa Aggro Rose Asmadi Get Dire Tymna Ikra Woke Women Tiana Aura Angel Ruric Thar SMASH Smasher Kraum Mana Positivity Zur Slides
Filthy Casual: WUBRG Jodah WUBRG WUBRG Fatties WUBRG Gahiji Vigilant Vengeance Ezuri Mysterious Morphs
I can live without Diabolic Tutor. Gone.
Flametongue Kavu, while handy, is not necessary. Besides, I don't think it really has the same flavor as some of the other cards. Voting against.
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
3 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Flametongue Kavu (-2)
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell (-1)
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 7
3 Blightning
2 Decree of Pain
2 Damnation (-2)
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 10
3 Rakdos Signet (1 @ -1)
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
Thanks to GR @ Yavin IV Studios for the signature!
Voting to remove all Flametongue Kavu; it doesn't really fit in this deck. Gone.
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
3 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell (-1)
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 7
3 Blightning
2 Decree of Pain
2 Damnation (-2)
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 10
3 Rakdos Signet (1 @ -1)
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
3 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell (-1)
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 7
3 Blightning
2 Decree of Pain (-1)
2 Damnation (-2)
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 9
2 Rakdos Signet
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
Vote to drop Rakdos Signet to 2. Pass.
I don't really want to vote on anything else, either I suggested it, my suggest cuts have been countermanded or I think its good and I want it to stay.
Mid-Tier: Marchesa Aggro Rose Asmadi Get Dire Tymna Ikra Woke Women Tiana Aura Angel Ruric Thar SMASH Smasher Kraum Mana Positivity Zur Slides
Filthy Casual: WUBRG Jodah WUBRG WUBRG Fatties WUBRG Gahiji Vigilant Vengeance Ezuri Mysterious Morphs
Vote to cut 1 Ryusei, 1 Kokusho, - Legendary, don't want to draw when when one is out. We ahve tutors to get them if we need them, and other dumb beaters if we want to draw that.
Vote to cut Blightning. We don't have enough discard. This is more likely to just remove whatever chaff is left in their hands, letting them increase their odds of getting what they want. We don't have nearly enough discard to clear their hands, or keep them clear.
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star (1 @ -1)
3 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star (1 @ -1)
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell (-1)
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 5
3 Blightning (-1)
2 Decree of Pain (-1)
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 9
2 Rakdos Signet
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
Retired EDH - Tibor and Lumia | [PR]Nemata |Ramirez dePietro | [C]Edric | Riku | Jenara | Lazav | Heliod | Daxos | Roon | Kozilek
Voting to cut Shriekmaw down to 2, likewise with Terminate and Blightning. mostly for thinning purposes. Bligtning is our only reliable discard/burn...
voting to axe Debtors' Knell- there's not enough discard to make this guy useful, nor are there any reliable creature-destruction to do likewise.
Voting to keep Decree of Pain. it's our best sweeper... cycle it for a Massacre or freecast it for some serious pain.
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star (1 @ -1)
3 Shriekmaw (1 @-1)
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star (1 @ -1)
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
1 Debtors' Knell (-2)
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 5
3 Blightning (-1, 1 @-1)
2 Decree of Pain
Instants: 3
3 Terminate (1 @-1)
Artifacts: 9
2 Rakdos Signet
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull
1 Foriysian Totem
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
375 Misfortune {+3 signed AP's} & 104 Rocket Launcher (41 AQ/ 63 Rev)
Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
Voting to cut debtors
Voting to cut signet, its bad late game and we already have enough two drops.
Voting to cut the totem.
Voting to cut one Batterskull, we have four tutors.
Voting to up arena to three, we actually want to see it.
I also think we should max out blighting, we currently have no protection for WE other than Blight and possibly Vess.
1 Phage the Untouchable (1 @ -1)
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star (1 @ -1)
3 Shriekmaw (1 @-1)
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star (1 @ -1)
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
2 Phyrexian Arena (1 @ +1)
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 5
3 Blightning (-1, 1 @-1)
2 Decree of Pain
Instants: 3
3 Terminate (1 @-1)
Artifacts: 9
2 Rakdos Signet (1 @ -all)
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull (1 @ -1)
1 Foriysian Totem (1 @ all)
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
I'm invoking a +1 to keep her in for the time being.
I also think that the deck still needs ways to make the Evocation non-symetrical, so we can gain more benefit than our foe. I wouldn't play this deck because I know people with massive penchants for running Eldrazi and BSC. We need ways to stop that from happening.
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star (1 @ -1)
3 Shriekmaw (1 @-1)
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star (1 @ -1)
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
2 Phyrexian Arena (1 @ +1)
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 5
3 Blightning (-1, 1 @-1)
2 Decree of Pain
Instants: 3
3 Terminate (1 @-1)
Artifacts: 9
2 Rakdos Signet (1 @ -all)
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull (1 @ -1)
1 Foriysian Totem (1 @ all)
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyI know what you mean...a lot of discard was voted out.
However, I have a bit of a different outlook on GMAD. It's easy to look at the final decklist and make my own tweaks where necessary. I certainly will have to replace a few of the more expensive cards if I wish to build this deck. That's why I play test on Cockatrice or with proxies before I commit to purchasing cards.
Thanks to GR @ Yavin IV Studios for the signature!
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star (1 @ -1)
3 Shriekmaw (1 @-1)
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star (1 @ -1)
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 5
3 Blightning (-1, 1 @-1)
2 Decree of Pain
Instants: 3
3 Terminate (1 @-1)
Artifacts: 9
2 Rakdos Signet (1 @ -all)
4 Mind Stone
2 Batterskull (1 @ -1)
1 Foriysian Totem (1 @ all)
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
Voting to remove Foriysian Totem. We'll never use it.
Voting to remove 1 Shriekmaw. We have other removal.
Technically, I could evoke my "three votes" rule and finish the deck there, but I don't like doing that.EDIT: I'm using rule 1.1.3 because I'd like to finish this and give someone else a turn. The deck is finished. I like it--I can work with it.
Well done, folks.
1 Phage the Untouchable
2 Kokusho, the Evening Star
2 Shriekmaw
2 Rune-Scarred Demon
2 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Kaervek the Merciless
1 Griselbrand
2 Urborg Syphon-Mage
2 Phyrexian Arena
4 Wild Evocation
Sorceries: 5
3 Blightning
2 Decree of Pain
Instants: 3
3 Terminate
Artifacts: 7
2 Rakdos Signet
4 Mind Stone
1 Batterskull
2 Liliana Vess
Lands: 24
4 Badlands
2 Crystal Vein
3 Lavaclaw Reaches
2 Graven Cairns
7 Mountain
6 Swamp
Thanks to GR @ Yavin IV Studios for the signature!
2) Dark_Kloud
3) bobthefunny
4) bobthefunny [getting two extra slots 'cuz I forgot him twice in earlier GMADs. and yes, I know it's not equal chances]
5) bobthefunny
6) Quendalon
7) Agent of Bolas
8) theBlueMuzzy
9) Macius
10) RabidVacin
11) Mazil
12) Sun_shine_dan
13) pokerbob1
14) BlackVise
15) Selvaxri
16) Vamilvas
17) Blal
18) OrderOfTheEmpire
19) Tev
20) Blue_Meanie
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