Are you sure that's the card you thought it was? I'm not sure how a white creature that pumps all your guys to a variable size is good in this deck. Did you mean Mirror Gallery?
Adding one copy of Butcher of Malakir for further symmetry breaking. I'll put in the final vote to axe Mycosynth Wellspring.
Are you sure that's the card you thought it was? I'm not sure how a white creature that pumps all your guys to a variable size is good in this deck. Did you mean Mirror Gallery?
Adding one copy of Butcher of Malakir for further symmetry breaking. I'll put in the final vote to axe Mycosynth Wellspring.
Are you sure that's the card you thought it was? I'm not sure how a white creature that pumps all your guys to a variable size is good in this deck. Did you mean Mirror Gallery?
looking over this deck, i'm wondering what the heck are we doing?
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looking over this deck, i'm wondering what the heck are we doing?
Cheat lots of card draw out to fill hand, to cheat more stuff out. Braids kills their stuff that comes out, and Cemetery refills our stuff from the grave, so we can kill their stuff more.
Then we get an It that Betrays and steal everything.
i feel like gmad builds usually fail to consider turns 1 - 3. or mana curve. in this case we have turn
t1 (24): land
t2 (14): strix, ichor, skeleton, cemetery, shriekmaw (prob not), malakir (prob not)
t3 (7): mimic vat, malakir, mulldrifter, but really it might have to be Diabolic intent to get braids
t4 (4): Ubraids most likely
t5 ():fatties/bbraids
not bad
seems to me like some 1 drops would fill these turns perfectly, duress or some other blue fixer (brainstorm, ponder, preordain)
since we want to get the right card and we have a limited tutor package, draw fixing feels more appropriate so we don't draw dead cards. drawing another braids that's in play put us behind a turn. preordain it is
Cheat lots of card draw out to fill hand, to cheat more stuff out. Braids kills their stuff that comes out, and Cemetery refills our stuff from the grave, so we can kill their stuff more.
Then we get an It that Betrays and steal everything.
Somewhere in there, we win.
Whats so hard to understand? =P
Since we did a free-casting deck not to long ago, i'm not seeing much of a synergy anywhere in the deck. nothing that worth freecasting constantly; nothing that plays off a sacrifice creatively [ :/ @ Sheoldred & Mr Walking Gravepact].
That said, Voting out Sakashima the Impostor and Mirror Gallery... i do not see a reason to have multiples of ANY legend? Do we need several Conjurer-Braids? No, all players will be topdecking after a few turns.
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Since we did a free-casting deck not to long ago, i'm not seeing much of a synergy anywhere in the deck. nothing that worth freecasting constantly; nothing that plays off a sacrifice creatively [ :/ @ Sheoldred & Mr Walking Gravepact].
Sheoldred would be a good add. Good finisher, and doubles off of both braids. That said, simply because we're freecasting doesn't mean we need to do big fat stuff. In this case, the freecast is a way to play more stuff, rather than how we play our stuff. Putting out extra mulldrifters allows our hand to stay full, and it loops with black braids to keep our position strong.
That said, Voting out Sakashima the Impostor and Mirror Gallery... i do not see a reason to have multiples of ANY legend? Do we need several Conjurer-Braids? No, all players will be topdecking after a few turns.
The idea is to loop our stuff to draw lots of cards (mulldrifter), kill their stuff (shriekmaw), tutor (demon), get lands (simulacrum), or use one of the wellsprings, or whatever else we want. Gallery is more cute than anything, but I like it for fun. Sakashima can always copy anything we want. He can even be more draw by copying a mulldrifter, or another tutor off of a demon.
Skinrender or Duplicant or that control-magic faerie could be better creature removal though.
Remember also that GMAD can be used as an idea board and starting off spot. I actually really like this deck, myself. It tickles me something funny.
only with sheoldred out does anything "loop". bbraids only makes us sac things, it doesn't bring things back from the grave. in case that's what you were thinking.
I'm not going to put it on the list myself, as I feel it's a bit of a controversial addition, but have we thought about Reya Dawnbringer? I know she is off-color, but she'd be free with Braids, so... <<
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If we go for a Bringer, I like the Blue one as it refills the hand.
Possessed Portal could be a nice one of with the Tutor demon as a way to really lock down the game. Tutor demon on a stick? Lets us get passed the "no draw" rule as does the Cemetery.
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it's a rule i don't particularly agree with, but it is a rule, also, i don't agree that you can't vote cards up after you've hit the trimming stage. sometimes you realize you want more or less of a card, but you're stuck with just removing things and unhappy with the numbers by the time you see the true final deck materialize.
it's a rule i don't particularly agree with, but it is a rule, also, i don't agree that you can't vote cards up after you've hit the trimming stage. sometimes you realize you want more or less of a card, but you're stuck with just removing things and unhappy with the numbers by the time you see the true final deck materialize.
As the OP, I have no problem with it. I say fine. (Unless Blut wants to moderate that. :D)
Vote to remove one Oversold Cemetery. We don't need three since we have tutors.
The reasoning behind Sakashima the Impostor was mostly the versatility aspect. I'd expect it to be either a second BBraids that's only around long enough to count for the opponent's upkeep, possibly a second Sheoldred/Butcher/Bringer, or a copy of whatever the opponent played. But I can see that it's not the strongest card in here, so I'm cool with it being axed if the group wants to.
I'm going to downvote Mirror Gallery and put in a second for reducing Oversold Cemetery by one. I'm not sure the Diabolic Intents really need to go since between Reassembling Skeleton and Baleful Strix we have a good number of ways to sac something early without taking card disadvantage, but we could go down by one copy at least.
Vote against Mirror Gallery. Not needed. Gone.
Reduce the Cemetery by 1. Don't need a lot of this effect, especially with tutor demon and blue bringer.
Vote to remove Shakshima. 3rd vote. Gone. It has some nice tricks since it can return itself to copy their blue braids threat, but it really isn't needed.
Adding one copy of Butcher of Malakir for further symmetry breaking. I'll put in the final vote to axe Mycosynth Wellspring.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Entity
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 Diabolic intent
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
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Since he put it under artifacts instead of creatures, that is probably a safe assumption.
Oops.
Good catch. Me fix.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Gallery
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 Diabolic intent
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
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Do we need some more hand disruption / discard to limit our opponent's UBriads action?
Also: I can't add anything just yet, but Creeping Tar Pit?
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+2 Creeping Tar Pit. Three is too much, one is no point. I think two is a nice middle.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Gallery
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 Diabolic intent
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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GMAD. It's hit or miss.
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Cheat lots of card draw out to fill hand, to cheat more stuff out. Braids kills their stuff that comes out, and Cemetery refills our stuff from the grave, so we can kill their stuff more.
Then we get an It that Betrays and steal everything.
Somewhere in there, we win.
Whats so hard to understand? =P
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t1 (24): land
t2 (14): strix, ichor, skeleton, cemetery, shriekmaw (prob not), malakir (prob not)
t3 (7): mimic vat, malakir, mulldrifter, but really it might have to be Diabolic intent to get braids
t4 (4): Ubraids most likely
t5 ():fatties/bbraids
not bad
seems to me like some 1 drops would fill these turns perfectly, duress or some other blue fixer (brainstorm, ponder, preordain)
since we want to get the right card and we have a limited tutor package, draw fixing feels more appropriate so we don't draw dead cards. drawing another braids that's in play put us behind a turn. preordain it is
adding 3 preordain
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Gallery
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 preordain
3 Diabolic intent
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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Since we did a free-casting deck not to long ago, i'm not seeing much of a synergy anywhere in the deck. nothing that worth freecasting constantly; nothing that plays off a sacrifice creatively [ :/ @ Sheoldred & Mr Walking Gravepact].
That said, Voting out Sakashima the Impostor and Mirror Gallery... i do not see a reason to have multiples of ANY legend? Do we need several Conjurer-Braids? No, all players will be topdecking after a few turns.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor (-1)
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Gallery (-1)
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 preordain
3 Diabolic intent
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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King of Misfortune & Master of Rocket Launchers
"Do ya feel lucky? Because you'd better start runnin' while you still can."
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Edgar Rice Burroughs, forgotten legend of the word.
Sheoldred would be a good add. Good finisher, and doubles off of both braids. That said, simply because we're freecasting doesn't mean we need to do big fat stuff. In this case, the freecast is a way to play more stuff, rather than how we play our stuff. Putting out extra mulldrifters allows our hand to stay full, and it loops with black braids to keep our position strong.
Butcher of Malakir is already on the list.
The idea is to loop our stuff to draw lots of cards (mulldrifter), kill their stuff (shriekmaw), tutor (demon), get lands (simulacrum), or use one of the wellsprings, or whatever else we want. Gallery is more cute than anything, but I like it for fun. Sakashima can always copy anything we want. He can even be more draw by copying a mulldrifter, or another tutor off of a demon.
Skinrender or Duplicant or that control-magic faerie could be better creature removal though.
Remember also that GMAD can be used as an idea board and starting off spot. I actually really like this deck, myself. It tickles me something funny.
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either getting two cards, or paying 2 life to tutor if you want to. both are pretty good at 5/5 trample
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Possessed Portal could be a nice one of with the Tutor demon as a way to really lock down the game. Tutor demon on a stick? Lets us get passed the "no draw" rule as does the Cemetery.
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+2 Bringer of the Blue Dawn
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
2 Bringer of the Blue Dawn
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor (-1)
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Gallery (-1)
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 preordain
3 Diabolic intent
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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1.1.0 The process of adding non-basic cards ends when 15 cards more than the size-limit are on the list.
It appears that he can't do that. I guess his vote doesn't count? Not sure.
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What do you guys think?
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As the OP, I have no problem with it. I say fine. (Unless Blut wants to moderate that. :D)
Vote to remove one Oversold Cemetery. We don't need three since we have tutors.
Vote to remove Sakashima the Impostor. Why do we need it?
Vote to remove Diabolic Intent. Although it's a tutor, I fear that BBraids will give us less to sac to it.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
2 Bringer of the Blue Dawn
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor (-2)
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Gallery (-1)
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery (1 @ -1)
Sorcery: 3
3 preordain
3 Diabolic intent (-1)
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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I'm going to downvote Mirror Gallery and put in a second for reducing Oversold Cemetery by one. I'm not sure the Diabolic Intents really need to go since between Reassembling Skeleton and Baleful Strix we have a good number of ways to sac something early without taking card disadvantage, but we could go down by one copy at least.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
2 Bringer of the Blue Dawn
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
2 Sakashima the Impostor (-2)
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
1 Mirror Gallery (-2)
Enchantments: 3
3 Oversold Cemetery (2 @ -1)
Sorcery: 3
3 preordain
3 Diabolic intent (-1, 1 @ -1)
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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Reduce the Cemetery by 1. Don't need a lot of this effect, especially with tutor demon and blue bringer.
Vote to remove Shakshima. 3rd vote. Gone. It has some nice tricks since it can return itself to copy their blue braids threat, but it really isn't needed.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
2 Bringer of the Blue Dawn
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat
Enchantments: 2
2 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 preordain
3 Diabolic intent (-1, 1 @ -1)
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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Didn't know I had to hit it exactly on the head, sorry 'bout that.
Vote down 1 Copy of Bringer of the Blue Dawn 'cause whoops.
Vote down 1 Copy of Sheoldred, 'cause we don't need that many Legendaries despite being awesome.
Diabolic Intent is nice in theory, I don't see it so well in execution. Vote to remove all.
I think Mimic Vat is a little out of theme. Sure, BBraids can abuse and all that, but I see it more of a Win-More rather than win. Vote down.
That's all I'm willing to axe at this point.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
2 Bringer of the Blue Dawn (1 @ -1)
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One (1 @ -1)
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat (-1)
Enchantments: 2
2 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 3
3 preordain
3 Diabolic intent (-2, 1 @ -1)
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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I agree with Tev on Sheoldred; like her, but we gots to make cuts. Voting to remove 1.
I really don't know what else to do yet. However, as OP, I hereby urge you NOT to remove Spine of Ish Sah. That card is gold if both Braids are out.
2 Braids, Cabal Minion
4 Braids, Conjurer Adept
1 It That Betrays
2 Bringer of the Blue Dawn (1 @ -1)
3 Reassembling Skeleton
3 Solemn Simulacrum
1 Grave Titan (2 @ +1)
3 Mulldrifter
2 Shriekmaw
3 Rune-Scarred Demon
4 Baleful Strix
2 Sheoldred, Whispering One (2 @ -1)
1 Butcher of Malakir
4 Ichor Wellspring
2 Spine of Ish Sah
3 Mimic Vat (-1)
Enchantments: 2
2 Oversold Cemetery
Sorcery: 2
3 preordain
2 Diabolic intent (-2)
Land: 24
3 Drowned Catacombs
4 River of Tears
2 Creeping Tar Pit
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