Greetings! Due to an illness I've been away from this forum so long, many of you might not even remember me... And now I return to find all these news about moving somewhere else and stuff. It's all very confusing, let me tell you: I've been out of the loop for so long, I barely have any idea of what's going on
Speaking of not having any idea of what's going on: I've also been out of the loop when it comes to MTG and especially EDH, since the illness w preventing me from working, which in turn was preventing me from making enough money to buy new cards. Now I return to a big end for the Gatewatch story arc, with Modern Horizons already out and Core 2020 on its way, and there are just so many new cards to check out. One thing I have noticed, however, is that plenty of new cool cards have been created/reprinted that support the self-mill/dredge theme, and just as many that support the sacrifice themes: I used to have a Golgari deck with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord at the helm, that made good use of both themes... But with so many exciting cards to choose from now, I figured I'd remove the sacrifice theme from it, and focus it exclusively on the self-mill/dredge. Then I went ahead and made a brand new deck with the sacrifice-themed cards.
So yeah, I'm here seeking feedback, opinions, criticism and suggestions/ideas for both decks: as a preliminary disclaimer, please note that both decks still lack a mana base, but I mean, they're both bicolor decks that are mainly black, so after I've thrown in the mass mana lands that black is famous for (Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Cabal Coffers, Thespian's Stage, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx etc) I can pretty much fill the rest with whatever I have lying around, these are not decks with especially complex mana needs. With that out of the way:
1) This is the reworked Jarad deck, which as mentioned focuses solely on self-milling and dredging. It wins with the Mike+Trike combo, by dropping Izoni, Thousand-Eyed followed by Craterhoof Behemoth, or just by casting Emrakul, The Promised End, which effectively costs 8 mana in this deck (and I mean, it's BG, amassing 8 mana should be trivial enough).
2) All of my sacrifice-themed cards happened to be black, I had no green ones... So yeah, since I had a few cool cards for Rakdos-colored combos lying around, I figured I'd go with that color combination rather than Golgari, so as to try something different. By putting Lyzolda, The Blood Witch at the helm, I eventually came up with this: it aims to in by making infinite mana with the Animate Worldgorger combo, so that Lyzolda can then burn everyone to death (she can sac herself to her own effect). Ashnod's Altar and Nym Deathmantle can also produce infinite mana with the likes of Mogg War Marshall, Grave Titan and other such token-producing creatures (a kind of creature a deck like this would want to play regardless): Lyzolda cannot win with such mana because it's colorless, but it is still possible to capitalize on it with Profane Command (instantly kill a guy while giving your army evasion in preparation for an alpha strike), Walking Ballista (which can instantly kill everyone with the aid of Goblin Bombardment) or Yawgmoth, Thran Physician (draw your deck so as to find another wincon). Other cards that are usually used with such a strategy, like Torment of Hailfire or Walking Ballista, are not included here because they're only useful once you have infinite mana, which makes me a little wary of them (they're dead draws if you get them before the combo is online): the cards I listed can do stuff for me even if I don't have the combo ready, which makes them more versatile and thus less risky to use.
As a side note, I mentioned having openings to launch alpha strikes, and this deck draws and discards a lot, so Anger would probably be a great inclusion, but I really don't know what to remove to make room for it. I mean yeah, this second deck is on card short (both are going to have 35 land, the amount I'm most comfortable with), but I'm waiting for Cavalier of Night, an announced card from Core 2020 which looks like it would do a of of work in this deck.
So yeah, this is what I got. Any feedback and constructive criticism will be greatly appreciated
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Speaking of not having any idea of what's going on: I've also been out of the loop when it comes to MTG and especially EDH, since the illness w preventing me from working, which in turn was preventing me from making enough money to buy new cards. Now I return to a big end for the Gatewatch story arc, with Modern Horizons already out and Core 2020 on its way, and there are just so many new cards to check out. One thing I have noticed, however, is that plenty of new cool cards have been created/reprinted that support the self-mill/dredge theme, and just as many that support the sacrifice themes: I used to have a Golgari deck with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord at the helm, that made good use of both themes... But with so many exciting cards to choose from now, I figured I'd remove the sacrifice theme from it, and focus it exclusively on the self-mill/dredge. Then I went ahead and made a brand new deck with the sacrifice-themed cards.
So yeah, I'm here seeking feedback, opinions, criticism and suggestions/ideas for both decks: as a preliminary disclaimer, please note that both decks still lack a mana base, but I mean, they're both bicolor decks that are mainly black, so after I've thrown in the mass mana lands that black is famous for (Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Cabal Coffers, Thespian's Stage, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx etc) I can pretty much fill the rest with whatever I have lying around, these are not decks with especially complex mana needs. With that out of the way:
1) This is the reworked Jarad deck, which as mentioned focuses solely on self-milling and dredging. It wins with the Mike+Trike combo, by dropping Izoni, Thousand-Eyed followed by Craterhoof Behemoth, or just by casting Emrakul, The Promised End, which effectively costs 8 mana in this deck (and I mean, it's BG, amassing 8 mana should be trivial enough).
2) All of my sacrifice-themed cards happened to be black, I had no green ones... So yeah, since I had a few cool cards for Rakdos-colored combos lying around, I figured I'd go with that color combination rather than Golgari, so as to try something different. By putting Lyzolda, The Blood Witch at the helm, I eventually came up with this: it aims to in by making infinite mana with the Animate Worldgorger combo, so that Lyzolda can then burn everyone to death (she can sac herself to her own effect). Ashnod's Altar and Nym Deathmantle can also produce infinite mana with the likes of Mogg War Marshall, Grave Titan and other such token-producing creatures (a kind of creature a deck like this would want to play regardless): Lyzolda cannot win with such mana because it's colorless, but it is still possible to capitalize on it with Profane Command (instantly kill a guy while giving your army evasion in preparation for an alpha strike), Walking Ballista (which can instantly kill everyone with the aid of Goblin Bombardment) or Yawgmoth, Thran Physician (draw your deck so as to find another wincon). Other cards that are usually used with such a strategy, like Torment of Hailfire or Walking Ballista, are not included here because they're only useful once you have infinite mana, which makes me a little wary of them (they're dead draws if you get them before the combo is online): the cards I listed can do stuff for me even if I don't have the combo ready, which makes them more versatile and thus less risky to use.
As a side note, I mentioned having openings to launch alpha strikes, and this deck draws and discards a lot, so Anger would probably be a great inclusion, but I really don't know what to remove to make room for it. I mean yeah, this second deck is on card short (both are going to have 35 land, the amount I'm most comfortable with), but I'm waiting for Cavalier of Night, an announced card from Core 2020 which looks like it would do a of of work in this deck.
So yeah, this is what I got. Any feedback and constructive criticism will be greatly appreciated