Commander is aimed at the majority of players that don't engage with LGSs or organized play. That's who the banlist is set up for.
We are misaligned on what target audience means here. Yes the RC has a strong focus on kitchen-table style games, but they know those people can regulate themselves if there is an issue. The ban list is the best starting point for those groups, and the best place for people who don't belong to such a group to focus on.
People playing at a shop or GP with random folks have a place to build from. Of course a rule 0 discussion could be had, but the ban list preempts that unless purposely engaged. I meant 'target audience' as those who get the most from it. You mean who the RC builds rules for.
So what would change in the ban list, for your ideal state, if the target audience was LGS players?
If people are sick of reading about stuff just stop taking part. You have 100% control over what you read. Simic Ascendancy isn't going to get banned just because you didn't tell someone to shut up on the internet.
Commander is aimed at the majority of players that don't engage with LGSs or organized play. That's who the banlist is set up for.
We are misaligned on what target audience means here. Yes the RC has a strong focus on kitchen-table style games, but they know those people can regulate themselves if there is an issue. The ban list is the best starting point for those groups, and the best place for people who don't belong to such a group to focus on.
People playing at a shop or GP with random folks have a place to build from. Of course a rule 0 discussion could be had, but the ban list preempts that unless purposely engaged. I meant 'target audience' as those who get the most from it. You mean who the RC builds rules for.
So what would change in the ban list, for your ideal state, if the target audience was LGS players?
What I mean by "target audience" is what target audience means.
If you're not part of the group who is in mind when something is built, you're not the target audience, even if you wind up using it. Adults may watch a kid's show, but that doesn't mean the adults are the target audience. Kids are who the show is made for; if an adult also happens to enjoy it, fine. But the show does not cater to the adult.
"Experience ruining" cards like Iona, Limited Resources, and Sundering Titan make sense for an LGS ban. As do "interacts poorly" cards like Worldfire and Coalition Victory. But "power level" cards like Recurring Nightmare and Gifts Ungiven do not.
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We are misaligned on what target audience means here. Yes the RC has a strong focus on kitchen-table style games, but they know those people can regulate themselves if there is an issue. The ban list is the best starting point for those groups, and the best place for people who don't belong to such a group to focus on.
People playing at a shop or GP with random folks have a place to build from. Of course a rule 0 discussion could be had, but the ban list preempts that unless purposely engaged. I meant 'target audience' as those who get the most from it. You mean who the RC builds rules for.
So what would change in the ban list, for your ideal state, if the target audience was LGS players?
What I mean by "target audience" is what target audience means.
If you're not part of the group who is in mind when something is built, you're not the target audience, even if you wind up using it. Adults may watch a kid's show, but that doesn't mean the adults are the target audience. Kids are who the show is made for; if an adult also happens to enjoy it, fine. But the show does not cater to the adult.
"Experience ruining" cards like Iona, Limited Resources, and Sundering Titan make sense for an LGS ban. As do "interacts poorly" cards like Worldfire and Coalition Victory. But "power level" cards like Recurring Nightmare and Gifts Ungiven do not.