Jace, Wielder of Mysteries – it is VERY convenient that they put Lab Maniac on a non-creature spell. However, this card is definitely not as useful as any other card in the deck and is more cute than anything. While cool, it’s not a good fit for Teferi.
Narset, Parter of Veils – this is a FANTASTIC card that I highly recommend picking up a few copies of. It turns off opponent’s Wheel effects while offering 2 Impulses for 3 mana. Very relevant card at a highly attractive CMC cost, I will be definitely finding space for this card in the list.
God-Eternal Kefnet – while this is a totally awesome card cycle, I don’t think this card is good enough to include in the 99. It doesn’t generate immediate card advantage, doesn’t actively tutor for the combo pieces, and exposes the deck to creature removal which is a virtual card advantage strength of the deck as is. I know there’s a cEDH Infinite Turns list with Kefnet that sounds spicy, he’s not quite good enough for Teferi.
Finale of Revelation – the lack of instant speed on this card means that it won’t see cEDH play, but the card is a very thoughtful and powerful one if cast for its Finale cost (x = 10). It could be a good budget replacement for Time Spiral or Timetwister, so that’s something.
Narset’s Reversal – this card is very interesting to me. It can win a Counter war if it needs to or protect a key instant or sorcery from Countermagic. I think it’s definitely worth testing and I recommend picking up a few copies of it if you can.
Spark Double – I’ve nicknamed this card The Sparkler and I think this is one of the few Clone variants that is actually good enough for this list to consider (besides Copy Artifact). Being able to get TWO Teferis in play sounds VERY appealing to me and can reduce the mana constraints during the combo turn somewhat. However, the only relevant target for the card in our deck is Teferi himself, and Teferi’s life span outside of the Combo turn is justifiably short. So, The Sparkler won’t generate a lot of value methinks, sadly.
Lazotep Plating – a cool card that could someday find space in the deck. Being able to protect our Artifacts from removal is very crucial and it also spawns a Chump blocker to protect Teferi if you’ve cast it for some reason. I think this is a great budget card for Teferi, but testing will tell.
Ugin, the Ineffable – another strong card from this set, I think this card is actually worth testing. It generates card advantage while significantly reducing the cost of our Artifacts. It also acts as removal when desperately needed, so it might be good enough to actually earn a slot in the deck. To be clear, Newgin is NOT better than the OG Ugin.
Karn, the Great Creator – oof, this card is a beating against this deck. With the new changes to the Sideboard rules (rule #13 specifically), this card loses a lot of its attraction since it can no longer tutor for Mycosynth Lattice out of the wishboard. It’s still a decent hate-card depending on your meta, but is otherwise not quite good enough in the deck methinks. Mana Dorks are the name of the current cEDH meta-game currently, so Karn isn’t as effective as he could be.
Blast Zone – dost mine eyes deceive me? Wizards printed a Wrath effect on a land?! They did! Rejoice! And pick up a copy of this card before it shoots up to the $15 - $20 range. Which it will.
Whew, there were some awesome cards in this set. The 2 cards I’m most excited about for this deck are Narset, Parter of Veils and Blast Zone because they’re awesome.
@redtwister
Oh, FOR SURE. If the new Dovin had been pure Blue, it would be another card that I'd try and find room for. Taxing your opponents for those card types is a huge advantage and it actually helps to make casting Teferi without the combo in hand a worthwhile investment with his fog ability.
EDIT: I'll be butting an Island for Blast Zone and Power Artifact for Narset, Parter of Veils. Even if she dies to dorks, she still digs deep and the combo potential of Narset + Timetwister is too good to pass up. Power Artifact has been on the chopping block for a long time because it's highly conditional and doesn't immediately impact the primary combo of the deck. But there's never been a suitable card to replace it until now.
I'm seriously thinking about homogenizing the 3 separate mono-Blue cEDH lists I have into a cohesive mono-Blue Core list, with the separate pieces of my Teferi, Memnarch, and Fblthp lists being an interchangeable set of cards that's included in the deck-box. This would allow me to play whatever cEDH mono-Blue list I'm feeling like playing without having to drag out my binder and make the changes every single time.
Karn, the Great Creator – oof, this card is a beating against this deck. With the new changes to the Sideboard rules (rule #13 specifically), this card loses a lot of its attraction since it can no longer tutor for Mycosynth Lattice out of the wishboard. It’s still a decent hate-card depending on your meta, but is otherwise not quite good enough in the deck methinks. Mana Dorks are the name of the current cEDH meta-game currently, so Karn isn’t as effective as he could be.
Well, on the brightside, it's not like he could do that prior to rule 13 either.
Hot damn, the new Urza looks absolutely powerful. I've already preordered a copy because he's one of my favorite characters in the context of the MTG storyline, but he's also a ridiculously powerful Commander in his own right. He's a pseudo combo piece with Paradox Engine and is also an infinite mana outlet in the Command Zone. What's not to love?
I'll be doing a full set review once everything is spoiled, but suffice to say that I'm confident that Urza will make it into this list, particularly since he's an infinite mana outlet that creates a colored mana rock.
I've often thought about analyzing my mono-U cEDH lists and determining what specific cards constitute the core of the deck. The idea behind this is if I can generate a cEDH mono-U template, then I can take all of the cards for the 4 different Commanders I play and put them in one deck box for deckspace efficiency and card collection efficiency as well. So, after some time analyzing the decklists I have, the below list is the Mono-U cEDH "Core", as I see it. Do note that this list is NOT comprehensive, since it was done based on my own limited research, but I feel confident in saying that this core list will give any player a fantastic starting base whenever they decide to build a Mono-U cEDH decklist.
This is the core 95 cards that are represented in 75% of the cEDH Mono-U decks that I’m currently playing and which are represented in a significant number of TappedOut lists that I can find for cEDH Mono-U lists. This leaves 4 slots to customize for each of the respective Commanders that I run, namely Urza, Lord High Artificer; Memnarch; Fblthp, the Lost; and Teferi, Temporal Archmage.
So, this means that I have 4 slots I can dedicate to each respective Commander without technically altering ANY of the other 95 cards. This will allow me to carry one deck box for any of the 4 Mono-Blue decks that I have Primers/decklists for on MTGSal, allowing me deck portability and card collection compactness. But, for completeness’ sake, I’ll list the actual changes I would make to each deck so that each list runs optimally.
Can't say I blame you. If they decide to print a Yawgmoth card, I will FOR SURE be assembling a Yawgmoth deck and having Urza and Yawgmoth fight in an epic duel for supremacy. I love the fact that WOTC is being so brave with their card design!
The new Modern Horizons set is just an incredible set for Teferi. Force of Negation, Urza, Lord High Artificer, and Echo of Eons are just so freaking awesome. They will all be finding a place in the decklist, methinks.
As someone running twister in his version, do you think you'd include Echo of Eons as well? I believe that I would run Time Spiral before echo, since the untap mechanic is so incredibly powerful when we have all that mana freshly untapped, especially with High Tide (which is also in my current list). Flashback is strong, im just not sure I would run it.
Force of Negation is a definite include imo. I am curious to see how this card's price goes. I am hoping it goes the path of Assassin's Trophy, because I can't imagine picking up several copies at its current price.
Urza, Lord High Artificer is an amazing card, and I intend to make him my flagship cedh commander (RIP Teferi) just to pair him with Mishra when I go to game nights, but I am unsure of his value in this build. Firstly, since he isn't creating 'sol' permanents, his mana generation doesn't help our combo, and there are easier ways for us to exile or draw our deck to cast. He seems like he will be underwhelming in this 99, though I could be way off on this assessment.
Agreed on Prismatic Vista. I honestly cannot think of an edh deck i wouldn't slap that in. Even though it can't fetch duals, the fact that it deck thins, fetches, and can mana fix seems undeniably strong.
Absolutely. [CARD}Echo of Eons[/CARD] is another incredible draw spell that is particularly well suited for Teferi. His mana output makes the high CMC for an initial casting cost much more reasonable and it's a Timetwister whenever you flashback it. I'm a fan of the card and it easily slots in as a budget Timetwister. I wouldn't cut any of the draw 7's in the deck. I think that you could easily cut Thirst of Knowledge if you want to squeeze room for it and not miss a beat.
Yeah, Force of Negation is duh as is Prismatic Vista. I'm still unclear on how Urza could/should fit in the decklist. He makes a body to block Tymna, which is ALWAYS relevant, and turns our Stax pieces into Moxen. And while we aren't playing Paradox Engine to really break him, Urza might be good enough to include the Engine into the deck. I think I'm personally going to try it out, since there is now a critical mass of pieces to get an Engine Storm turn in this deck. I really do think that it's now possible to have a unified mono-Blue cEDH core list, so I'm a fan of trying to get Teferi optimized for Paradox Engine.
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However, in light of the closure announcement of MTGSal and its attendant 11th hour resurrection, I have personally decided to commit myself fully to the MTGNexus project that Feyd_Ruin has started. My reasoning, which I hope you'll respect and appreciate, is explained below.
First and foremost, the majority of the MTGSal staff that make this site work and function are leaving for MTGNexus. This wholesale migration of valuable and active members within the MTGSAl community that maintain its integrity and reputation leaves me uneasy as to the future direction of this site. Cryogen, Airithne, Wildfire, and many others that make this site tick are already active on MTGNexus and are, quite frankly, having a better experience with the new platform and have already established the basic infrastructure to make it successful in the same ways that MTGSal has been successful. I'm a strong supporter of these individuals and prefer to trust my online MTG experience to people that have been a part of the online MTG space for decades. I will be leaving this site to follow them in the new adventure that is Nexus, and I'm super happy to do so.
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I wish you the best journey should you remain on MTGSal, but I would encourage you to give MTGNexus a try. It's already got a lot of participation and a large segment of the MTGSal community has already made the jump.
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Whew, there were some awesome cards in this set. The 2 cards I’m most excited about for this deck are Narset, Parter of Veils and Blast Zone because they’re awesome.
@redtwister
Oh, FOR SURE. If the new Dovin had been pure Blue, it would be another card that I'd try and find room for. Taxing your opponents for those card types is a huge advantage and it actually helps to make casting Teferi without the combo in hand a worthwhile investment with his fog ability.
EDIT: I'll be butting an Island for Blast Zone and Power Artifact for Narset, Parter of Veils. Even if she dies to dorks, she still digs deep and the combo potential of Narset + Timetwister is too good to pass up. Power Artifact has been on the chopping block for a long time because it's highly conditional and doesn't immediately impact the primary combo of the deck. But there's never been a suitable card to replace it until now.
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RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
5/15/2019 EDIT:
Power Artifact remains in the list. The official cuts are:
Added
Narset's Reversal
Narset, Parter of Veils
Blast Zone
Cuts
Spell Pierce
Thirst for Knowledge
Island
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UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
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UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Well, on the brightside, it's not like he could do that prior to rule 13 either.
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GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
I'll be doing a full set review once everything is spoiled, but suffice to say that I'm confident that Urza will make it into this list, particularly since he's an infinite mana outlet that creates a colored mana rock.
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GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Mono-Blue cEDH Core:
1x Academy Ruins
1x Ancient Tomb
1x Blast Zone
1x Buried Ruin
1x Inventors' Fair
1x Seat of the Synod
1x Prismatic Vista
1x Scalding Tarn
1x Polluted Delta
1x Misty Rainforest
1x Flooded Strand
18x Island
Mana Sources (15)
0x Mana Crypt
0x Chrome Mox
0x Mox Opal
0x Mox Diamond
1x Sol Ring
1x Mana Vault
1x Voltaic Key
2x Grim Monolith
2x Fellwar Stone
2x Thought Vessel
2x Coldsteel Heart
2x Mind Stone
3x Basalt Monolith
4x Thran Dynamo
5x Gilded Lotus
0x Pact of Negation
1x Swan Song
1x Flusterstorm
1x Mental Misstep
2x Mana Drain
2x Counterspell
2x Narset's Reversal
2x Arcane Denial
2x Muddle the Mixture
3x Force of Negation
5x Force of Will
Card Advantage (14)
1x Brainstorm
1x Sensei's Divining Top
1x Preordain
1x Ponder
1x Mystic Remora
2x Impulse
2x Pull from Tomorrow
3x Rhystic Study
3x Verity Circle
3x Windfall
3x Timetwister
3x Narset, Parter of Veils
4x Fact or Fiction
6x Time Spiral
Combo Pieces (3)
2x Isochron Scepter
2x Dramatic Reversal
5x Paradox Engine
3x Blue Sun's Zenith
4x Aetherflux Reservoir
Tutors (10)
1x Mystical Tutor
2x Reshape
2x Transmute Artifact
2x Merchant Scroll
3x Fabricate
3x Whir of Invention
3x Spellseeker
3x Intuition
3x Trinket Mage
5x Tezzeret the Seeker
Removal/Stax (11)
1x Chain of Vapor
1x Rapid Hybridization
1x Grafdigger's Cage
2x Cyclonic Rift
2x Reality Shift
2x Gilded Drake
2x Blink of an Eye
3x Capsize
3x Vedalken Shackles
3x Back to Basics
8x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
This is the core 95 cards that are represented in 75% of the cEDH Mono-U decks that I’m currently playing and which are represented in a significant number of TappedOut lists that I can find for cEDH Mono-U lists. This leaves 4 slots to customize for each of the respective Commanders that I run, namely Urza, Lord High Artificer; Memnarch; Fblthp, the Lost; and Teferi, Temporal Archmage.
So, this means that I have 4 slots I can dedicate to each respective Commander without technically altering ANY of the other 95 cards. This will allow me to carry one deck box for any of the 4 Mono-Blue decks that I have Primers/decklists for on MTGSal, allowing me deck portability and card collection compactness. But, for completeness’ sake, I’ll list the actual changes I would make to each deck so that each list runs optimally.
Unique Cards for Urza Paradox Scepter Combo:
1x Karn, the Great Creator
1x Mycosynth Lattice
1x Winter Orb
1x Static Orb
1x Trinisphere
1x Power Artifact
1x Sapphire Medallion
1x Skyship Weatherlight
1x Arcum Dagsson
1x Sai, Master Thopterist
1x Spellseeker
1x Merchant Scroll
1x Blink of an Eye
1x Verity Circle
1x Island
1x Ugin, the Spirit Dragon
Unique Cards for Memnarch Paradox Scepter Combo:
1x Cavern of Souls
1x Pili-Pala
1x Grand Architect
1x Urza, Lord High Artificer
1x One with the Machine
1x Future Sight
1x Ponder
1x Verity Circle
Unique Cards for Fblthp Proteus Scepter Combo:
1x Proteus Staff
1x Gush
1x Frantic Search
1x Mission Briefing
1x Mox Amber
1x Cursed Totem
1x Negate
1x Disallow
1x Legacy's Allure
1x Spellseeker
1x Trinket Mage
1x Gilded Drake
1x Blink of an Eye
1x Grafdigger's Cage
Unique Cards for Teferi Chain Veil:
1x The Chain Veil
1x Stasis
1x Cursed Totem
1x Copy Artifact
1x Power Artifact
1x The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1x Rings of Brighthearth
1x Urza, Lord High Artificer
1x Gilded Drake
1x Rapid Hybridization
1x Coldsteel Heart
1x Ponder
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RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
UB Dralnu, Lich Lord
RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Primer - Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
Thor, Ragnar Röks!
Hela, and the Enemies of Asgard
Teferi, Temporal Archmage
UB Dralnu, Lich Lord
RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Primer - Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
Thor, Ragnar Röks!
Hela, and the Enemies of Asgard
Teferi, Temporal Archmage
All will be one.
Yup, my mind is blown.
May The Ineffable bless us and purge our imperfections.
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UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Stroke of Genius will be replaced with Echo of Eons for sure and Negate will be coming out for Force of Negation. I haven't quite decided what/if Urza actually makes it in, but I think he will. Probably in place of Mind Stone. And Prismatic Vista for an Island, of course.
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RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
Force of Negation is a definite include imo. I am curious to see how this card's price goes. I am hoping it goes the path of Assassin's Trophy, because I can't imagine picking up several copies at its current price.
Urza, Lord High Artificer is an amazing card, and I intend to make him my flagship cedh commander (RIP Teferi) just to pair him with Mishra when I go to game nights, but I am unsure of his value in this build. Firstly, since he isn't creating 'sol' permanents, his mana generation doesn't help our combo, and there are easier ways for us to exile or draw our deck to cast. He seems like he will be underwhelming in this 99, though I could be way off on this assessment.
Agreed on Prismatic Vista. I honestly cannot think of an edh deck i wouldn't slap that in. Even though it can't fetch duals, the fact that it deck thins, fetches, and can mana fix seems undeniably strong.
Primer - Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
Thor, Ragnar Röks!
Hela, and the Enemies of Asgard
Teferi, Temporal Archmage
Yeah, Force of Negation is duh as is Prismatic Vista. I'm still unclear on how Urza could/should fit in the decklist. He makes a body to block Tymna, which is ALWAYS relevant, and turns our Stax pieces into Moxen. And while we aren't playing Paradox Engine to really break him, Urza might be good enough to include the Engine into the deck. I think I'm personally going to try it out, since there is now a critical mass of pieces to get an Engine Storm turn in this deck. I really do think that it's now possible to have a unified mono-Blue cEDH core list, so I'm a fan of trying to get Teferi optimized for Paradox Engine.
UB Dralnu, Lich Lord
RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager
It's been a great time being a member of this community. Truly, this site has been a lifeline for me in my lowest life moments and I've grown and developed as a player in direct response to the feedback I've received, the comments I've read, and the decklists I've perused on this site. MTGSal has been my online MTG home since 2009 and I have nothing but fond memories of this site.
However, in light of the closure announcement of MTGSal and its attendant 11th hour resurrection, I have personally decided to commit myself fully to the MTGNexus project that Feyd_Ruin has started. My reasoning, which I hope you'll respect and appreciate, is explained below.
It's been a great adventure on MTGSal, and I'll be stepping down from all responsibilities on MTGSal by the end of 7/11/2019 at the official launch of MTGNexus and will be removing all of my content, with the exception of decklists from MTGSal as a site. I will NOT be updating the MTGSal threads and will not be actively contributing to MTGSal except on the rare occassion that my fancy is struck.
I wish you the best journey should you remain on MTGSal, but I would encourage you to give MTGNexus a try. It's already got a lot of participation and a large segment of the MTGSal community has already made the jump.
Why not you? It's your chance to start over fresh, contribute in a meaningful way to a new platform, and have a chance to positively shape what will become the premier MTG site on the internet.
Adieu, my friends!
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RBW [Primer]-Kaalia of the Vast
BUG [Primer]-Tasigur, the Golden Fang
GWU [Primer]-Arcades, the Strategist
WUB Primer-Aminatou, the Fateshifter
UBR Nicol Bolas, the Ravager