All of the poison decks on here are missing one REALLY good bit of tech. Your deck needs more Surestrike trident. First strike with -1/-1 counters means bad news for any blockers and the other ability is instant poison for a player. Absolutely necessary. The prohibitive equip cost means nothing with such a good return on it.
EDIT: Obviously I didn't read your decklist thoroughly enough. Oops.
Love the deck mate ... marked some cards with questionmarks at first sight, but second run-through made those choices pretty obvious.
Congrats dude
Thanks! I think I'll make this deck IRL once I track down Mr. Blight. Until my playgroup forbids me to play it, or raises the number of poison counters to 20
All of the poison decks on here are missing one REALLY good bit of tech. Your deck needs more Surestrike trident. First strike with -1/-1 counters means bad news for any blockers and the other ability is instant poison for a player. Absolutely necessary. The prohibitive equip cost means nothing with such a good return on it.
EDIT: Obviously I didn't read your decklist thoroughly enough. Oops.
Thanks! I think I'll make this deck IRL once I track down Mr. Blight. Until my playgroup forbids me to play it, or raises the number of poison counters to 20
You'd better build this deck IRL ... You don't want to make me come to Holland (only a 30 minute drive to the border xD)
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Anyway, does anybody have some ideas for this deck? Ideas to make it more powerful, but also ideas to make it more fun (either for myself or my opponents :p).
And it could sound really dumb but making your creatures indestructible with Eldrazi Monument could help
I focussed so hard on the poison that I forgot to include some cards that are just good I'll squeeze the Tendrils in. Not a big fan of the Sign, too small effect. The Monument is tricky...it's REALLY good to help you get to the other side, but I don't have that many creatures...still, good idea! Thanks
Umezawa's Jitte seems nice. Also, what about Mimic Vat or Soul Foundry to produce more of your guys? Or Infiltration Lens to reward yourself when you are blocked?
Umezawa's Jitte seems nice. Also, what about Mimic Vat or Soul Foundry to produce more of your guys? Or Infiltration Lens to reward yourself when you are blocked?
Thanks for the input. Jitte is good in almost any deck, but also quite expensive. Could be good...but it's a bit meh I *do* like the Vat and Foundry!
After stalking you for a few days on Isperia's back, I noticed a few tricks you could add to the deck:
Promise of Power: No questions asked Crypt Rats: Evil little rats if you find a way to combine it with some sort of "Infect/poison/wither" Aura or equipment.
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After stalking you for a few days on Isperia's back, I noticed a few tricks you could add to the deck:
Promise of Power: No questions asked Crypt Rats: Evil little rats if you find a way to combine it with some sort of "Infect/poison/wither" Aura or equipment.
There are really only two ways to give your guys infect - Tainted Strike and Grafted Exoskeleton - and I have a feeling it would too often be a do-nothing card. Promise of Power can be good, but I have a feeling you will rarely be blocking with your creatures (since they tend to be fragile and you really need to do combat damage to a player), so I don't know if losing the 5 for 5 is worth it over 2 for 2 or 3 for 3. If you're digging for answers at low health, you might prefer the card that won't kill you itself (though it is a good suggestion - depends on the playgroup, I think).
I'm also running Hexmage (for PWs) and Dark Depths ('cause why not?), as well as Helm+Leyline for an unanticipated combo.
There are really only two ways to give your guys infect - Tainted Strike and Grafted Exoskeleton - and I have a feeling it would too often be a do-nothing card. Promise of Power can be good, but I have a feeling you will rarely be blocking with your creatures (since they tend to be fragile and you really need to do combat damage to a player), so I don't know if losing the 5 for 5 is worth it over 2 for 2 or 3 for 3. If you're digging for answers at low health, you might prefer the card that won't kill you itself (though it is a good suggestion - depends on the playgroup, I think).
I'm also running Hexmage (for PWs) and Dark Depths ('cause why not?), as well as Helm+Leyline for an unanticipated combo.
Crypt rats can also function as a political card. It mostly does in my playgroup.
I used to play rats in combo with Gravepact in my Nath of the Gilt-Leaf deck. Usually players left me alone once both these hit the table, none of them wants to lose their hands and their creatures in game
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Love your deck! I got myself a copy of the dragon at the prerelease and knew he had to be my next EDH deck. I decided to stick to a relatively phyrexian theme though and aim to wither away my opponent's creatures and what not, so the deck is removal heavy. Here is my list
I hope my list helps out in someway, I know yours helped me
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Avid EDH player GWUPhelddagrif----------------GWRhys, the Redeemed----------UBRLord of Tresserhorn--------XKozilek, Butcher of Truth WUBRGProgenitus---------------BGWKarador, Ghost Chieftain---URGIntet, the Dreamer---------RGWort, the Raidmother BGSavra-----------------------RGMarhault Elsdragon----------UTeferi, Mage of Zhalfir------UWHanna, Ship's Navigator BSkithiryx the Blight Dragon--RWUZedruu the Greathearted----BRelentless Rats------------BRUNicol Bolas
I too have been working on a Skithiryx deck. Mine is a bit different in that it is more of a voltron-style build rather than a poison theme deck. You just bide your time, building up your mana and maybe tossing out an equipment or two, keeping the board clear of threats and blockers, and when the time is right, cast Skithiryx, give him haste and smash some face. It's almost too easy to win with this guy (maybe even easier than Rafiq of the many or Uril the Miststalker!). I foresee some rules regarding Skithiryx and\or poison.
I agree that there will probably be some rules changes regarding poision, probably bumping it up to 20 to reflect the life difference in EDH. Infect is just incredibly easy to win with, I had a first turn unholy strength+plague stinger go all the way.
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Avid EDH player GWUPhelddagrif----------------GWRhys, the Redeemed----------UBRLord of Tresserhorn--------XKozilek, Butcher of Truth WUBRGProgenitus---------------BGWKarador, Ghost Chieftain---URGIntet, the Dreamer---------RGWort, the Raidmother BGSavra-----------------------RGMarhault Elsdragon----------UTeferi, Mage of Zhalfir------UWHanna, Ship's Navigator BSkithiryx the Blight Dragon--RWUZedruu the Greathearted----BRelentless Rats------------BRUNicol Bolas
After stalking you for a few days on Isperia's back, I noticed a few tricks you could add to the deck:
Promise of Power: No questions asked Crypt Rats: Evil little rats if you find a way to combine it with some sort of "Infect/poison/wither" Aura or equipment.
As noted by Necrogeist, there are only two ways to give it infect. I really like the card, but it's just not for this particular deck.
@Shunma and Travy: thanks for sharing the decks! Do post them also in a seperate topic and link them to the EDH database. That way people can see more variants and it will help them!
I agree that there will probably be some rules changes regarding poision, probably bumping it up to 20 to reflect the life difference in EDH. Infect is just incredibly easy to win with, I had a first turn unholy strength+plague stinger go all the way.
We'll see. People will start to play around it, but if too many people lose to infect + Hatred for example, I can imagine it going up to 15/20.
1 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
The Blights Upon Your Soul
1 Blackcleave Goblin
1 Contagious Nim
1 Corpse Cur
1 Crypt Cobra
1 Hand of the Praetors
1 Ichor Rats
1 Ichorclaw Myr
1 Necropede
1 Pit Scorpion
1 Plague Stinger
1 Suq'Ata Assassin
1 Swamp Mosquito
1 Vector Asp
1 Nirkana Revenant
1 Necroskitter
Spread the infection
1 Relic Putrescence
1 Snake Cult Initiation
1 Tainted Strike
1 Serpent Generator
1 Contagion Clasp
1 Contagion Engine
1 Throne of Geth
1 Mimic Vat
1 Soul Foundry
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Unspeakable Symbol
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Lliliana Vess
Power to Poison!
1 Hankyu
1 Heavy Arbalest
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Strata Scythe
1 Sword of Vengeance
1 Surestrike Trident
1 Thornbite Staff
1 Viridian Longbow
1 Howl from Beyond
1 Hatred
1 Bad Moon
1 Nightmare Lash
1 Dark Triumph
Sneaking through defenses
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 Trailblazer Boots
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Eldrazi Monument
1 Filth
1 Extraplanar Lens
1 Gauntlet of Power
1 Black Market
Death upon you!
1 Altar of Shadows
1 Plague Wind
1 Tendrils of Corruption
1 Decree of Pain
1 Mutilate
1 Living Death
1 Hellfire
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Nevinyrral's Disk
1 Oversold Cemetery
Blight Lands
31 Swamp
1 Arena
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Volrath's Stronghold
1 Strip Mine
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Phyrexian Tower
1 Crypt of Agadeem
1 Shizo, Death's Storehouse
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Congrats dude
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EDIT: Obviously I didn't read your decklist thoroughly enough. Oops.
No prob
My meta doesn't have THAT many targeting effects. More mass removal. But I'll keep in it in mind.
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You'd better build this deck IRL ... You don't want to make me come to Holland (only a 30 minute drive to the border xD)
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Sir yes sir! Also, I leave on the other side of the country, so you need another 2 hour drive to get there
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Hmm ... I'll just ask Isperia to drop me of then ^^
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Anyway, does anybody have some ideas for this deck? Ideas to make it more powerful, but also ideas to make it more fun (either for myself or my opponents :p).
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I focussed so hard on the poison that I forgot to include some cards that are just good I'll squeeze the Tendrils in. Not a big fan of the Sign, too small effect. The Monument is tricky...it's REALLY good to help you get to the other side, but I don't have that many creatures...still, good idea! Thanks
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What an extreme cool idea
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Thanks, I put it in instead of the Grafted Exoskeleton, that doesn't do anything in this deck anyway
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Thanks for the input. Jitte is good in almost any deck, but also quite expensive. Could be good...but it's a bit meh I *do* like the Vat and Foundry!
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Promise of Power: No questions asked
Crypt Rats: Evil little rats if you find a way to combine it with some sort of "Infect/poison/wither" Aura or equipment.
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There are really only two ways to give your guys infect - Tainted Strike and Grafted Exoskeleton - and I have a feeling it would too often be a do-nothing card. Promise of Power can be good, but I have a feeling you will rarely be blocking with your creatures (since they tend to be fragile and you really need to do combat damage to a player), so I don't know if losing the 5 for 5 is worth it over 2 for 2 or 3 for 3. If you're digging for answers at low health, you might prefer the card that won't kill you itself (though it is a good suggestion - depends on the playgroup, I think).
I'm also running Hexmage (for PWs) and Dark Depths ('cause why not?), as well as Helm+Leyline for an unanticipated combo.
Crypt rats can also function as a political card. It mostly does in my playgroup.
I used to play rats in combo with Gravepact in my Nath of the Gilt-Leaf deck. Usually players left me alone once both these hit the table, none of them wants to lose their hands and their creatures in game
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1 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
Creatures
1 Vector Asp
1 Necropede
1 Ichorclaw Myr
1 Plague Stinger
1 Ichor Rats
1 Contagious Nim
1 Phyrexian Rager
1 Giant Scorpion
1 Blackcleave Goblin
1 Skinrender
1 Corpse Cur
1 Hand of the Praetors
1 Carnifex Demon
1 Midnight Banshee
1 Phyrexian Gargantua
1 Wurmcoil Engine
Removal
1 Lose Hope
1 Sicken
1 Terror
1 Last Gasp
1 Grasp of Darkness
1 Nameless Inversion
1 Diabolic Edict
1 Smallpox
1 Cruel Edict
1 Rend Flesh
1 Sudden Death
1 Ichor Slick
1 Infest
1 Death Pulse
1 Barter in Blood
1 Damnation
1 Tendrils of Corruption
1 Incremental Blight
1 Pull Under
1 Endless Scream
1 Howl from Beyond
1 Tainted Strike
1 Vampire's Bite
1 Unholy Strength
1 Dragon Shadow
1 Parallax Dementia
1 Midnight Covenant
1 Soul Kiss
Equipment
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Grafted Exoskeleton
1 Nim Deathmantle
Reanimation and control
1 Enslave
1 Rise from the Grave
1 Dread Return
1 Zombify
1 Animate Dead
Tutoring
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Liliana Vess
1 Diabolic Tutor
Acceleration
1 Phyrexian Totem
1 Phyrexian Arena
1 Necropotence
1 Dark Ritual
1 Snake Cult Initiation
1 Nihil Spellbomb
1 Contagin Clasp
Lands
1 Reliquary Tower
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Arena
34 Swamp
I hope my list helps out in someway, I know yours helped me
GWUPhelddagrif----------------GWRhys, the Redeemed----------UBRLord of Tresserhorn--------XKozilek, Butcher of Truth
WUBRGProgenitus---------------BGWKarador, Ghost Chieftain---URGIntet, the Dreamer---------RGWort, the Raidmother
BGSavra-----------------------RGMarhault Elsdragon----------UTeferi, Mage of Zhalfir------UWHanna, Ship's Navigator
BSkithiryx the Blight Dragon--RWUZedruu the Greathearted----BRelentless Rats------------BRUNicol Bolas
Anyway, here's the list:
1 Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon
Creature (12)
1 Doomed Necromancer
1 Visara the Dreadful
1 Avatar of Woe
1 Nezumi Graverobber
1 Magus of the Coffers
1 Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief
1 Maga, Traitor to Mortals
1 Myojin of Night’s Reach
1 Midnight Banshee
1 Nirkana Revenant
1 Fleshbag Marauder
1 Reiver Demon
Sorcery (20)
1 Mind Shatter
1 Plague Wind
1 Profane Command
1 Promise of Power
1 Zombify
1 Reanimate
1 Beacon of Unrest
1 Rise from the Grave
1 Ambition’s Cost
1 Night’s Whisper
1 Corrupt
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Diabolic Tutor
1 Beseech the Queen
1 Damnation
1 Innocent Blood
1 Barter in Blood
1 Mind Sludge
1 All is Dust
1 Decree of Pain
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Dark Ritual
1 Howl from Beyond
1 Tainted Strike
1 Makeshift Mannequin
1 Rend Flesh
Artifact (20)
1 Sword of Light and Shadow
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Umezawa’s Jitte
1 Whispersilk Cloak
1 O-Naginata
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Lightning Greaves
1 Worldslayer
1 Gilded Lotus
1 Darksteel Ingot
1 Sol Ring
1 Expedition Map
1 Armillary Sphere
1 Oblivion Stone
1 Nevinyrral’s Disk
1 Scroll Rack
1 Sensei’s Divining Top
1 Gauntlet of Power
1 Extraplanar Lense
1 Jet Medallion
1 Haunted Crossroads
1 Phyrexian Arena
Planeswalker (2)
1 Liliana Vess
1 Sorin Markov
Land (37)
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
1 Cabal Coffers
1 Shizo, Death’s Storehouse
1 Vesuva
1 Volrath’s Stronghold
32 Snow-Covered Swamp
One of the (coolest? evilest? underhanded?) things you can do is throw Worldslayer on him since he has built-in regeneration. It's pretty epic.
GWUPhelddagrif----------------GWRhys, the Redeemed----------UBRLord of Tresserhorn--------XKozilek, Butcher of Truth
WUBRGProgenitus---------------BGWKarador, Ghost Chieftain---URGIntet, the Dreamer---------RGWort, the Raidmother
BGSavra-----------------------RGMarhault Elsdragon----------UTeferi, Mage of Zhalfir------UWHanna, Ship's Navigator
BSkithiryx the Blight Dragon--RWUZedruu the Greathearted----BRelentless Rats------------BRUNicol Bolas
As noted by Necrogeist, there are only two ways to give it infect. I really like the card, but it's just not for this particular deck.
@Shunma and Travy: thanks for sharing the decks! Do post them also in a seperate topic and link them to the EDH database. That way people can see more variants and it will help them!
We'll see. People will start to play around it, but if too many people lose to infect + Hatred for example, I can imagine it going up to 15/20.
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It never hurts to play an Arena (:p), but I'm not really looking for staples. But thanks for the suggestion!
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