well since the deck is designed for 1v1 its a bit harder to say about land hate (most games with zur end real quick if you ask me) once zur starts swinging its pretty much GG
after about 5 turns, (maybe 6)
1st attack gets shroud (1 general dmg total)
2nd gets +2/+2 unblockable, lifelink (4 gen dmg total)
3rd gets +3/+3 first strike, vigilance, lifelink (10 dmg total)
4th gets necropotence (16 dmg total)
5th gets empyrial armor (good game)
thats what got me interested in it... its different than the usual sharuum lists i saw
Well thank you. Infinite combos are boring, if I wanted to play with myself I'd play a 5 colour Hermit Druid with 22 counter spells. I don't want to win on turn 3/4 every game. It's not Legacy.
I'd rather have people scoop, at least they actually have a chance to kill my permanents. I left out counter spells on purpose.
- I have a rule about them. 6-8 or 25+.
i play mostly casual due to work sched atm (having to work from 1:30-10 pm and 11am-7:30 pm sat) kinda puts a dent on trying to play of course but yea i see where your getting to with the no counters and its great to use blue sometimes and not rely on them if you ask me (my zur has about 18 counters atm )
i play mostly casual due to work sched atm (having to work from 1:30-10 pm and 11am-7:30 pm sat) kinda puts a dent on trying to play of course but yea i see where your getting to with the no counters and its great to use blue sometimes and not rely on them if you ask me (my zur has about 18 counters atm )
Why player counters when you can play threats. Most blue decks lose to getting hit to death by 2/2's
I understand why Zur needs it. People don't like him.
I use to work 7am-7pm, 9am-7pm or 11am-9pm. My school schedule was even worse. 4 hour chemistry classes 6pm-10pm. I always missed tournaments and that's how I got into EDH. There is a competitive side to casual :P.
so far just checking your updated list im missing about 30% of the cards and about 5 of em are hard investments money wise >_< should be able to get them soon enough though (i was offered a great deal for a playset of bobs (dark confidant) ) the problem will be that void
so far just checking your updated im missing about 30% of the cards and about 5 of em are hard investments money wise >_< should be able to get them soon enough though (i was offered a great deal for a playset of bobs (dark confidant) ) the problem will be that void
I was lucky on Bob's. My best and I got him for $15-20 each. We got 8 Dark Confidants' for ~$125 total. 7 at $15 and 1 at $20.
No rush. I'm sure your friends would let you proxy them for a while. Casual games are fun. I miss those.
hmm you got me thinking of adding bazaar into this deck (got only 1) i payed around 200ish for my bazaar (maybe less)
Do it! It belongs in every deck with recursion plus it digs for answers. It will eat through your hand be-careful when you use it.
If you have Crucible of Worlds out, use it every opportunity you have. After you've attacked in Zur, you don't need lands, just open mana for counter spells.
Scroll Rack is tech with Zur. Make space for that over Bazaar.
My list isn't the best skeleton for Zur. The land base will almost identical except you'll need more U-producing lands.
If your going Stax/lock out route then my list is a good skeleton.
You won't need equipment either. Just be sure to have the proper enchants.
Bitterblossom/Contamination is funny. It gets people really angry.
Argh my lands only tap for black, oh wait I'm not playing black...they tap for colourless, rage quit. This exact scenario will happen to you at least once in the future.
yea im going for the stax build for sharuum (zur i have it complete since january)
EDIT: what i meant by using zur was on the rock and land production for mana thats it nothing more from zur is meant for this deck (since i got copies of what ever cards overlap between both zur and sharuum)
yea im going for the stax build for sharuum (zur i have it complete since january)
My bad. I thought you wanted this for Zur. Sharuum Stax won't make you friends, that's my warning for you. Who cares, right? Tell me if you find more whacky ways to lock people out of the game super quick.
Darn you. You have the cards I'm missing. Bazaar/Mana Crypt/Invoke/Tundra are on my wish list.
but i do have like 7 of my own
after about 5 turns, (maybe 6)
1st attack gets shroud (1 general dmg total)
2nd gets +2/+2 unblockable, lifelink (4 gen dmg total)
3rd gets +3/+3 first strike, vigilance, lifelink (10 dmg total)
4th gets necropotence (16 dmg total)
5th gets empyrial armor (good game)
EDIT: what about counters i didnt see you running any (other then the chants of course)
That's act as an Armageddon. I approve.
This list might look weird, but it plays out really well.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
Well thank you. Infinite combos are boring, if I wanted to play with myself I'd play a 5 colour Hermit Druid with 22 counter spells. I don't want to win on turn 3/4 every game. It's not Legacy.
I'd rather have people scoop, at least they actually have a chance to kill my permanents. I left out counter spells on purpose.
- I have a rule about them. 6-8 or 25+.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
i play mostly casual due to work sched atm (having to work from 1:30-10 pm and 11am-7:30 pm sat) kinda puts a dent on trying to play of course but yea i see where your getting to with the no counters and its great to use blue sometimes and not rely on them if you ask me (my zur has about 18 counters atm )
Why player counters when you can play threats. Most blue decks lose to getting hit to death by 2/2's
I understand why Zur needs it. People don't like him.
I use to work 7am-7pm, 9am-7pm or 11am-9pm. My school schedule was even worse. 4 hour chemistry classes 6pm-10pm. I always missed tournaments and that's how I got into EDH. There is a competitive side to casual :P.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
I was lucky on Bob's. My best and I got him for $15-20 each. We got 8 Dark Confidants' for ~$125 total. 7 at $15 and 1 at $20.
No rush. I'm sure your friends would let you proxy them for a while. Casual games are fun. I miss those.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
I'm an idiot myself. I was offered $150 for Bazaar of Baghdad, I didn't take it. Oh well, it's not do or die. I'll get Bazaars' eventually.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
EDIT: what about adding Scroll Rack or lotus petal?
Do it! It belongs in every deck with recursion plus it digs for answers. It will eat through your hand be-careful when you use it.
If you have Crucible of Worlds out, use it every opportunity you have. After you've attacked in Zur, you don't need lands, just open mana for counter spells.
Scroll Rack is tech with Zur. Make space for that over Bazaar.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
1x Sharuum the Hegemon
[Big creatures] [2]
1x Magister Sphinx
1x Serra Ascendant
[Stax/Tokens/Land Destruction] [13]
1x Braids, Cabal Minion
1x In the Eye of Chaos *
1x Lodestone Golem
1x Nether Void
1x Smokestack *
1x Trinisphere *
1x Winter Orb *
1x Bitterblossom
1x Sword of the Meek
1x Thopter Foundry
1x Armageddon *
1x Death Cloud
1x Sundering Titan *
[Ramp] [11]
1x Azorius Signet *
1x Basalt Monolith
1x Coalition Relic *
1x Dimir Signet *
1x Grim Monolith
1x Mana Vault *
1x Mox Diamond *
1x Orzhov Signet *
1x Sol Ring *
1x Talisman of Dominance *
1x Talisman of Progress *
[Draw/Tutors] [20]
1x Courier's Capsule
1x Dark Confidant
1x Demonic Tutor *
1x Enlightened Tutor *
1x Entomb *
1x Fact or Fiction *
1x Intuition
1x Memory Jar *
1x Mystical Tutor *
1x Necropotence *
1x Praetor's Grasp
1x Phyrexian Arena *
1x Sensei's Divining Top *
1x Stoneforge Mystic *
1x Sword of Fire and Ice *
1x Tezzeret the Seeker *
1x Thirst for Knowledge *
1x Trinket Mage *
1x Vampiric Tutor *
1x Windfall
1x Diabolic Edict *
1x Dismember *
1x Mind Twist *
1x Path to Exile *
1x Steel Hellkite *
1x Swords to Plowshares *
1x Vindicate *
1x Crucible of Worlds *
1x Reanimate *
1x Sun Titan
[Utility] [7]
1x Nihil Spellbomb
1x Phantasmal Image
1x Phyrexian Metamorph
1x Sculpting Steel
1x Sword of War and Peace
1x Tormod's Crypt *
1x Umezawa's Jitte *
[Lands] [36]
1x Academy Ruins *
1x Bojuka Bog *
1x Buried Ruin
1x Cabal Pit
1x Cephalid Coliseum
1x Ghost Quarter *
1x Maze of Ith *
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Strip Mine *
1x Wasteland *
1x Bloodstained Mire *
1x Flooded Strand *
1x Marsh Flats *
1x Misty Rainforest *
1x Polluted Delta *
1x Scalding Tarn *
1x Verdant Catacombs *
1x Ancient Tomb *
1x City of Brass *
1x Command Tower *
1x Fetid Heath *
1x Godless Shrine *
1x Hallowed Fountain *
1x Mystic Gate *
1x River of Tears
1x Scrubland *
1x Seat of the Synod
1x Snow-Covered Island
1x Snow-Covered Swamp
1x Sunken Ruins *
1x Temple of the False God
1x Underground Sea *
1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth *
1x Vault of Whispers
1x Watery Grave *
My list isn't the best skeleton for Zur. The land base will almost identical except you'll need more U-producing lands.
If your going Stax/lock out route then my list is a good skeleton.
You won't need equipment either. Just be sure to have the proper enchants.
Bitterblossom/Contamination is funny. It gets people really angry.
Argh my lands only tap for black, oh wait I'm not playing black...they tap for colourless, rage quit. This exact scenario will happen to you at least once in the future.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
EDIT: what i meant by using zur was on the rock and land production for mana thats it nothing more from zur is meant for this deck (since i got copies of what ever cards overlap between both zur and sharuum)
My bad. I thought you wanted this for Zur. Sharuum Stax won't make you friends, that's my warning for you. Who cares, right? Tell me if you find more whacky ways to lock people out of the game super quick.
Darn you. You have the cards I'm missing. Bazaar/Mana Crypt/Invoke/Tundra are on my wish list.
EDH
BWG Doran Suicide Tempo BWG
BUW Sharuum Midrange Control BUW
moat + humility + winter orb topped off with privileged position + sterling grove