What does everyone think of Eldritch Evolution? I'm certainly going to test it, worst case scenario you turn wood elves into karmic guide to get back wood elves, best case you sac karmic guide to get elesh and 2 power<3 guys
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What does everyone think of Eldritch Evolution? I'm certainly going to test it, worst case scenario you turn wood elves into karmic guide to get back wood elves, best case you sac karmic guide to get elesh and 2 power<3 guys
I haven't gotten around to testing Birthing Pod yet; I'm going to try that first.
None of those lands are fetch-able. that's the big problem with <> mana. There just aren't that many good ways to get it and in a pile of ninety-nine, three or four sources just isn't going to cut it.
A handful of mana rocks would help and they're probably easier to search for than lands without a Basic type. A deck that was easier on the mana could run Wastes which could be augmented by things like Evolving Wilds, but Bant can't run many lands that don't make colored mana.
What does everyone think of Eldritch Evolution? I'm certainly going to test it, worst case scenario you turn wood elves into karmic guide to get back wood elves, best case you sac karmic guide to get elesh and 2 power<3 guys
I haven't gotten around to testing Birthing Pod yet; I'm going to try that first.
This post confuses me. Birthing Pod is far and away one of the best cards in the deck, no testing needed ;).
In all seriousness, the only time that card will come out of my deck is if it's banned. I have a hunch Evolution will be in the deck to stay as well, just have to find a cut for it.
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In my mind, there is quite a large gap between Zenn's Jenara and ISB's Jenara. I have not seen a better Jenara than ISB's; ISB's Jenara is the benchmark by which other Jenara lists are measured. You can learn a lot simply by reading through the posts contributing to the development of this list. It's a very good starting point for anyone interested in creature-based value lists
In my mind, there is quite a large gap between Zenn's Jenara and ISB's Jenara. I have not seen a better Jenara than ISB's; ISB's Jenara is the benchmark by which other Jenara lists are measured. You can learn a lot simply by reading through the posts contributing to the development of this list. It's a very good starting point for anyone interested in creature-based value lists
I agree with you that they build a bit differently, but the core is mostly the same. Since this list has been taken apart by ISB and no longer gets updated, that is why I recommend posting about it on Zenn's list. You're ultimately building the same deck even if cards and strategies are weighed differently.
Oh hey look my Jenara retired list has been poked. I will respond even though I dont maintain / update it anymore.
Eldrazi Displacer - the challange from the get go is that I think an "ideal" landbase for three color does not have a lot of colorless mana generation by default. I think its a very strong creature but you probably do need to make adjustments to make it work in a list resembling my own. The other thing to keep in mind is that if you are using lands that tap for colorless with no option of colored mana is that it will hurt your ability to drop Jenara on curve. It depends on what your priorities are but I often tried to be able to turn 3 Jenara when I played this deck because it let me pick up some early game aggression. I think this could be offset potentially by using things like pain lands potentially. I think he is worth considering but only if you are willing to make some adjustments to your landbase. If your landbase looks like what mine in the OP does, I dont think he can be supported. You really need to reliably have like 2+ colorless mana production options to make it work decently otherwise I dont think you are getting enough value from it.
Eldritch Evolution it seems like a good tutor. Most of the creatures in here do not matter if they are in play or not. Its similar to a one shot use of Birthing Pod but its more versatile but its a one shot effect. Even then though, in several cases though you can go from a 3 mana creature to a 5 or less mana creature which is really only one mana lost to wildcard into a lot of options. It seems very strong.
Birthing Pod I strongly encourage you to run it if you are building around ETB creatures. Its a lot of really really cheap value generation. Keep in mind that with ETB creatures, they tend to frontload their value on entering play so taking one creature and turning it into another for a mana or two is very strong toolboxing as well as value.
ZenN's Primer - I agree with the fact that he is maintaining and working towards his deck actively. Its also worth considering the duration of time that this list was active and the amount of discussion it generated. I think both are honestly worth considering and using. I still try to give feedback on newer cards and discussion when I can and or notice stuff. Bant is probably my favorite shard.
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I guess we'll just have to disagree on Zenn's list. Even if lists are 70% similar, the differences are huge when you look at how everything fits together. Anyhow, my thoughts on the cards
Eldrazi Displacer: is more suited for a Derevi ETB value list. The untaps generated in combat on mana rocks like Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Grim, and etc work wonderfully in producing enough mana to activate Displacer multiple times a turn. It may be too slow in Jenara without Seedborn Muse or other untap shenanigans.
Eldritch Evolutions: best card I've seen in a new set. Perfect for creature-based etb value, stax, or toolbox strategies. It is the third best creature tutor printed behind SotF and Birthing Pod. If it was instant speed it might be #1
I did retire my primer so its not really my business to get worked up about what someone else's list looks like. I obviously favor my own given I ran it. I also differ in discussion with Zenn but part of our primer system is to let everyone share their own ideas which is also why multiple primers are allowed here for the same commander. ZenN's ideas and build differ from my own but given that there is no national meta its hard to say that they are wrong. Different meta decisions may call for different strategies. I also had the benefit of a much longer history in which to bounce ideas off of users and adjust my own list. I remember a distant time when I didn't really understand how good Mana Drain was for instance and some of that sort of thing comes from people giving feedback on a list and discussing it.
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In my mind, there is quite a large gap between Zenn's Jenara and ISB's Jenara. I have not seen a better Jenara than ISB's; ISB's Jenara is the benchmark by which other Jenara lists are measured. You can learn a lot simply by reading through the posts contributing to the development of this list. It's a very good starting point for anyone interested in creature-based value lists
This basically sums up my thoughts exactly. We miss you ISBP! ZenN's primer is a nice play to discuss new options, but having played elements of both lists I have to say ISBP's feels more optimal (might be meta dependent).
Always great to have a new area for discussion for the deck though. My playgroup regularly fears Jenara, and she still wins Archenemy games.
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ZenN's primer is a nice play to discuss new options, but having played elements of both lists I have to say ISBP's feels more optimal (might be meta dependent).
I find this funny. I've played ISB's list, card for card, and it never performed nearly as well for me as my own has. I've been tweaking and tuning this deck for years, and many of the cards that ISB had in this list were in mine even before I stumbled on this old primer and tried his. Many of these cards have since been cut. Some purely based on preference or meta, and some simply because they just plain underperformed. There are many decisions that ISB made for this deck that I don't, and could never, agree with, like the exclusion of Prophet of Kruphix (pre-ban, obviously).
I don't mind if some people prefer ISB's list. By no means is it bad. Just because it doesn't work for me doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. There are many considerations, such as personal preference, play style, and meta. One thing that does bother me, however, is that people talk about my own list like it's new and untested. This is not at all the case. As mentioned previously, I've been working on this deck for years. The deck has gained a reputation both in my playgroup and at my LGS, and I've prized with it at just about every multiplayer event I've taken it to. Every decision that I've made for this deck has had a large number of hours of thought and testing behind it. If you don't like my list, fine. That's entirely up to you. I just don't appreciate the assumptions that I'm new at this, or that it's a new deck.
The simple fact of the matter, as I see it, is that this primer is retired, while mine is active. You don't agree with some of my choices? Great! Come tell me about it. Explain to me why you feel that way. Convince me that you're right. If I'm wrong about something I want to know it, and have the opportunity to reexamine. Just bear in mind that I've probably played whatever card you suggest, and will likely give you all the reasons I didn't like it. You very well might be right, but you're going to need to show me that, not just expect me to take your word for it.
This is the one and only time I'm going to post about this. At the end of the day it just doesn't matter that much. Figure out how the list plays best for you and go for it!
You're all more than welcome to carry on these discussions in my thread. Back and forth is good. If not, I wish you all the best of luck with your own versions of the list and hope you have productive developments over here!
A reread of my post makes it clear to me that it came off harsher than I intended - I apologize! ISBP's list is not objectively better, since this depends on the meta. I only meant that my list (which is more similar to his) has been performing well. I never meant to insult your deckbuilding skills; after all, we're all Jenara, Asura of War players and she's vastly underestimated. We all have a common goal--proving she's a threat.
I also didn't mean to imply your list is untested or new. Your primer demonstrates that you have plenty of experiences with the deck and pilot it well. Like you could never agree with some of ISBP's choices, I could never agree with yours (like excluding Gilded Drake?!?!), but these card choices are meta dependent and better discussed in your thread.
I'll move all further discussion about the evolving Jenara list should be in ZenN's thread, since ISBP's primer is inactive.
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A reread of my post makes it clear to me that it came off harsher than I intended - I apologize! ISBP's list is not objectively better, since this depends on the meta. I only meant that my list (which is more similar to his) has been performing well. I never meant to insult your deckbuilding skills; after all, we're all Jenara, Asura of War players and she's vastly underestimated. We all have a common goal--proving she's a threat.
I also didn't mean to imply your list is untested or new. Your primer demonstrates that you have plenty of experiences with the deck and pilot it well. Like you could never agree with some of ISBP's choices, I could never agree with yours (like excluding Gilded Drake?!?!), but these card choices are meta dependent and better discussed in your thread.
I'll move all further discussion about the evolving Jenara list should be in ZenN's thread, since ISBP's primer is inactive.
I appreciate your response, thank you.
To be clear, I wasn't trying to call you out specifically, only to call attention to what I saw as the general perception of my thread/list.
Can't remember what I cut but I do not run the extra turn package and I am lighter on counters.
There are probably still those who base their lists off of mine but I doubt anyone is still running my list. I think I still had the tuck counters in my list which easily are replaced with better counters these days.
Eldritch Evolution & Recruiter of the Guard from your list are cards I would have considered. I very likely would have moved to run Sword of the Animist as well because I think that card is bonkers good. Also of note of recent sets I probably would have Tragic Arrogance in my list if I were still running this deck myself.
Personally I would avoid one shot flicker creatures because really there is no way to get their value back. You only get a single flicker from them and they depend on another creature's ETB to be in play to get any value so they cant be played right after a wrath and they are situational if they do anything. I would rather see something like Momentary Blink where you at least get two uses from it or possibly Eerie Interlude.
I still play this Bant list as my go to when I want to play control and the differences from his list (Last time he updated) and mine are the following:
Funny how after looking at ISBPathfinder's list I didn't notice some of the cards I added were cards I thought he already had in already i.e Polluted Delta, Counterspell and Tragic Arrogance. He had talked about Tragic Arrogance a lot that I assumed it was in his list already. Otherwise most of my choices were based on my meta or trying to make my list faster.
I haven't played my list since before they changed the rule on commander tuck so Tragic Arrogance wasn't a thing yet. I would totally be running it though if I were still playing this list and cutting the tuck counters was on my plan of things to do kind of when I stopped playing this list. Its odd that I didnt have Polluted Delta in my list as I am fairly certain I had one before I put my list down but its possible I forgot to update / add it into my digital list.
I still think there is room for some sort of lifegain pickup as I had noticed with my own list back in the day that on occasion chip damage started to add up as I didn't have a lot of sources of lifegain (which is why I ran the wall). Picking up the Qasali Pridemage seems like a good thing if you encounter Torpor Orb much. My experience with Linvala, Keeper of Silence has varried between back breaking and a really bad vanilla angel but depending on the meta I can totally see it.
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In my meta I've seen more activated creature deck builds like Feldon and Ezuri decks. It's really to slow them down a bit. The 3/4 body helps punch face especially when equipped with the one of two swords in the list.
I did play around with Wall of Reverence and most of the time the 1-2 life gain per turn wasn't very helpful. I had played around with/considered other life gain cards like Umezawa's Jitte, Sword of Light and Shadow, and Filigree Familiar. I also considered the Resolute Arcangelthat the other Jenara Player ZenN had mentioned in his thread but I'm unsure about using it since other than the life-resetting, its not that great of a card. I had liked the idea of Oketra's Last Mercy since I can mitigate the lack of untapping with Sword of Feast and Famine.
Used to play this list A LOT, but haven't in awhile now.
Anway, Azor, the Lawbring seems really good for the list and I think I may use this list as a possible basis to construct an Azor list.
I could possibly see it. I think Azor plays a little differently though too. You would still potentially want to play it as kind of a ramp heavy deck because that Sphinx's Rev every attack sounds like the reason to run Azor primarily. I think there is some room to play with the concept of flickering him too to hinder wrath effects.
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Used to play this list A LOT, but haven't in awhile now.
Anway, Azor, the Lawbring seems really good for the list and I think I may use this list as a possible basis to construct an Azor list.
I could possibly see it. I think Azor plays a little differently though too. You would still potentially want to play it as kind of a ramp heavy deck because that Sphinx's Rev every attack sounds like the reason to run Azor primarily. I think there is some room to play with the concept of flickering him too to hinder wrath effects.
Yeah, you're right. It'd definitely play a bit different, since without green you don't get access to a lot of the better creature interactions/creatures. I think a control/voltron/ramp deck would play well with him, though.
ISB: What land would you cut for the Polluted Delta? A forest?
Looking back at my list now its hard to say. Flagstones of Trokair isn't really something that is needed though unless you see MLD regularly if you do I guess keep it. I tried keeping my basic count fairly decent in my list because of all of the ways in which to tutor for lands.
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I have officially moved to MTGNexus. I just wanted to let people know as my response time to salvation decks being bumped is very hit or miss.
Coming back to this list after awhile because I loved playing it. Recently rebuilt it, with a few tweaks. Right now, I've added the following:
+1 Arcane Denial
+1 Azor, the Lawbringer
+1 Cyclonic Rift
+1 Disallow
+1 Eldrazi Displacer
+1 Knight of Autumn
+1 Recruiter of the Guard
+1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
and dropped the following:
-1 Brainstorm
-1 Hallowed Burial
-1 Harmonic Sliver
-1 Hinder
-1 Karametra, God of Harvests
-1 Spell Crumple
-1 Tezzeret the Seeker
-1 Wall of Reverence
This is all just testing right now, well besides things like swapping Harmonic for Knight of Autumn cause it just seems flat out better. Other cards I'm considering include:
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I haven't gotten around to testing Birthing Pod yet; I'm going to try that first.
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Jenara, Asura of War- WGSigarda, Host of HeronsCasualties of economicsLegacy: Good-night, sweet prince. Mono-R Burn
Land on List Currently
Color & Colorless
Only Colors (Utility)
Tutors for Wastes
Trinket Mage for Sol Ring
Plus already having 5 fetches and 6 dual lands.
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Only EDH:
Sigarda, Host of Herons: Enchantress' Enchantments
Jenara, Asura of War: ETB Value Town
Purphoros, God of the Forge: Global Punishment
Xenagos, God of Revels: Ramp, Sneak, & Heavy Hitters
Ghave, Guru of Spores: Dies_to_Doom_Blade's stax list
Edric, Spymaster of Trest: Donald's list
This post confuses me. Birthing Pod is far and away one of the best cards in the deck, no testing needed ;).
In all seriousness, the only time that card will come out of my deck is if it's banned. I have a hunch Evolution will be in the deck to stay as well, just have to find a cut for it.
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ISB still looks at it occasionally and Zenn does a good job of looking at new cards and keeping the list up to date.
EDH:
G[cEDH] Selvala, Heart of the StormG
URW[cEDH] Narset, the Last AirmericanURW
GWUSt. Jenara, the ArchangelGWU
UBGrimgrin, Chaos MarineUB
GOmnath, Mana BaronG
URWNarset, Justice League AmericaURW
GWUBAtraxa, Countess of CountersGWUB
GWUEstrid, Enbantress PrimeGWU
BRGrenzo, Dungeon Warden EDH
GAzusa, Always in a Rush EDH
GWUDerevi, Empyrial Warlord EDH
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I agree with you that they build a bit differently, but the core is mostly the same. Since this list has been taken apart by ISB and no longer gets updated, that is why I recommend posting about it on Zenn's list. You're ultimately building the same deck even if cards and strategies are weighed differently.
EDH:
G[cEDH] Selvala, Heart of the StormG
URW[cEDH] Narset, the Last AirmericanURW
GWUSt. Jenara, the ArchangelGWU
UBGrimgrin, Chaos MarineUB
GOmnath, Mana BaronG
URWNarset, Justice League AmericaURW
GWUBAtraxa, Countess of CountersGWUB
GWUEstrid, Enbantress PrimeGWU
Eldrazi Displacer - the challange from the get go is that I think an "ideal" landbase for three color does not have a lot of colorless mana generation by default. I think its a very strong creature but you probably do need to make adjustments to make it work in a list resembling my own. The other thing to keep in mind is that if you are using lands that tap for colorless with no option of colored mana is that it will hurt your ability to drop Jenara on curve. It depends on what your priorities are but I often tried to be able to turn 3 Jenara when I played this deck because it let me pick up some early game aggression. I think this could be offset potentially by using things like pain lands potentially. I think he is worth considering but only if you are willing to make some adjustments to your landbase. If your landbase looks like what mine in the OP does, I dont think he can be supported. You really need to reliably have like 2+ colorless mana production options to make it work decently otherwise I dont think you are getting enough value from it.
Eldritch Evolution it seems like a good tutor. Most of the creatures in here do not matter if they are in play or not. Its similar to a one shot use of Birthing Pod but its more versatile but its a one shot effect. Even then though, in several cases though you can go from a 3 mana creature to a 5 or less mana creature which is really only one mana lost to wildcard into a lot of options. It seems very strong.
Birthing Pod I strongly encourage you to run it if you are building around ETB creatures. Its a lot of really really cheap value generation. Keep in mind that with ETB creatures, they tend to frontload their value on entering play so taking one creature and turning it into another for a mana or two is very strong toolboxing as well as value.
ZenN's Primer - I agree with the fact that he is maintaining and working towards his deck actively. Its also worth considering the duration of time that this list was active and the amount of discussion it generated. I think both are honestly worth considering and using. I still try to give feedback on newer cards and discussion when I can and or notice stuff. Bant is probably my favorite shard.
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Eldrazi Displacer: is more suited for a Derevi ETB value list. The untaps generated in combat on mana rocks like Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Grim, and etc work wonderfully in producing enough mana to activate Displacer multiple times a turn. It may be too slow in Jenara without Seedborn Muse or other untap shenanigans.
Eldritch Evolutions: best card I've seen in a new set. Perfect for creature-based etb value, stax, or toolbox strategies. It is the third best creature tutor printed behind SotF and Birthing Pod. If it was instant speed it might be #1
BRGrenzo, Dungeon Warden EDH
GAzusa, Always in a Rush EDH
GWUDerevi, Empyrial Warlord EDH
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This basically sums up my thoughts exactly. We miss you ISBP! ZenN's primer is a nice play to discuss new options, but having played elements of both lists I have to say ISBP's feels more optimal (might be meta dependent).
Always great to have a new area for discussion for the deck though. My playgroup regularly fears Jenara, and she still wins Archenemy games.
Regular 450 unpowered cube (with some custom cards) - 450 Unpowered
I don't mind if some people prefer ISB's list. By no means is it bad. Just because it doesn't work for me doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. There are many considerations, such as personal preference, play style, and meta. One thing that does bother me, however, is that people talk about my own list like it's new and untested. This is not at all the case. As mentioned previously, I've been working on this deck for years. The deck has gained a reputation both in my playgroup and at my LGS, and I've prized with it at just about every multiplayer event I've taken it to. Every decision that I've made for this deck has had a large number of hours of thought and testing behind it. If you don't like my list, fine. That's entirely up to you. I just don't appreciate the assumptions that I'm new at this, or that it's a new deck.
The simple fact of the matter, as I see it, is that this primer is retired, while mine is active. You don't agree with some of my choices? Great! Come tell me about it. Explain to me why you feel that way. Convince me that you're right. If I'm wrong about something I want to know it, and have the opportunity to reexamine. Just bear in mind that I've probably played whatever card you suggest, and will likely give you all the reasons I didn't like it. You very well might be right, but you're going to need to show me that, not just expect me to take your word for it.
This is the one and only time I'm going to post about this. At the end of the day it just doesn't matter that much. Figure out how the list plays best for you and go for it!
You're all more than welcome to carry on these discussions in my thread. Back and forth is good. If not, I wish you all the best of luck with your own versions of the list and hope you have productive developments over here!
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I also didn't mean to imply your list is untested or new. Your primer demonstrates that you have plenty of experiences with the deck and pilot it well. Like you could never agree with some of ISBP's choices, I could never agree with yours (like excluding Gilded Drake?!?!), but these card choices are meta dependent and better discussed in your thread.
I'll move all further discussion about the evolving Jenara list should be in ZenN's thread, since ISBP's primer is inactive.
Regular 450 unpowered cube (with some custom cards) - 450 Unpowered
To be clear, I wasn't trying to call you out specifically, only to call attention to what I saw as the general perception of my thread/list.
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Retired Commanders: [Primer] Jenara, Asura of War | [Primer] Ghave, Guru of Spores | Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury | Saskia the Unyielding | Sydri, Galvanic Genius
I have added the following:
Reclamation Sage
Eldritch Evolution
Felidar Guardian
Cloudblazer
Wispweaver Angel
Recruiter of the Guard
Can't remember what I cut but I do not run the extra turn package and I am lighter on counters.
There are probably still those who base their lists off of mine but I doubt anyone is still running my list. I think I still had the tuck counters in my list which easily are replaced with better counters these days.
Eldritch Evolution & Recruiter of the Guard from your list are cards I would have considered. I very likely would have moved to run Sword of the Animist as well because I think that card is bonkers good. Also of note of recent sets I probably would have Tragic Arrogance in my list if I were still running this deck myself.
Personally I would avoid one shot flicker creatures because really there is no way to get their value back. You only get a single flicker from them and they depend on another creature's ETB to be in play to get any value so they cant be played right after a wrath and they are situational if they do anything. I would rather see something like Momentary Blink where you at least get two uses from it or possibly Eerie Interlude.
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What I took out:
1x Wall of Reverence
1x Karametra, God of Harvests
1x Bant Charm
1x Hinder
1x Spell Crumple
1x Bribery
1x Hallowed Burial
1x Flagstones of Trokair
1x Kor Haven
1x Forest
1x Wooded Bastion
What I put in:
1x Qasali Pridemage
1x Recruiter of the Guard
1x Tragic Arrogance
1x Counterspell
1x Cyclonic Rift
1x Force of Will
1x Swan Song
1x Ancient Tomb
1x Island
1x Polluted Delta
1x Reliquary Tower
Funny how after looking at ISBPathfinder's list I didn't notice some of the cards I added were cards I thought he already had in already i.e Polluted Delta, Counterspell and Tragic Arrogance. He had talked about Tragic Arrogance a lot that I assumed it was in his list already. Otherwise most of my choices were based on my meta or trying to make my list faster.
I still think there is room for some sort of lifegain pickup as I had noticed with my own list back in the day that on occasion chip damage started to add up as I didn't have a lot of sources of lifegain (which is why I ran the wall). Picking up the Qasali Pridemage seems like a good thing if you encounter Torpor Orb much. My experience with Linvala, Keeper of Silence has varried between back breaking and a really bad vanilla angel but depending on the meta I can totally see it.
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I did play around with Wall of Reverence and most of the time the 1-2 life gain per turn wasn't very helpful. I had played around with/considered other life gain cards like Umezawa's Jitte, Sword of Light and Shadow, and Filigree Familiar. I also considered the Resolute Arcangelthat the other Jenara Player ZenN had mentioned in his thread but I'm unsure about using it since other than the life-resetting, its not that great of a card. I had liked the idea of Oketra's Last Mercy since I can mitigate the lack of untapping with Sword of Feast and Famine.
Anway, Azor, the Lawbring seems really good for the list and I think I may use this list as a possible basis to construct an Azor list.
I could possibly see it. I think Azor plays a little differently though too. You would still potentially want to play it as kind of a ramp heavy deck because that Sphinx's Rev every attack sounds like the reason to run Azor primarily. I think there is some room to play with the concept of flickering him too to hinder wrath effects.
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Looking back at my list now its hard to say. Flagstones of Trokair isn't really something that is needed though unless you see MLD regularly if you do I guess keep it. I tried keeping my basic count fairly decent in my list because of all of the ways in which to tutor for lands.
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+1 Arcane Denial
+1 Azor, the Lawbringer
+1 Cyclonic Rift
+1 Disallow
+1 Eldrazi Displacer
+1 Knight of Autumn
+1 Recruiter of the Guard
+1 Teferi, Hero of Dominaria
and dropped the following:
-1 Brainstorm
-1 Hallowed Burial
-1 Harmonic Sliver
-1 Hinder
-1 Karametra, God of Harvests
-1 Spell Crumple
-1 Tezzeret the Seeker
-1 Wall of Reverence
This is all just testing right now, well besides things like swapping Harmonic for Knight of Autumn cause it just seems flat out better. Other cards I'm considering include:
Eldritch Evolution and Faerie Artisans