The only m14 card I would consider is Ajani's Chosen. As a creature, I think its a bit too vulnerable. I am however testing the similar card Sigil of the Empty Throne as another win condition
Yeah, Ajani's Chosen is way too vulnerable... However, I will be giving Ring of Three Wishes a "go" in my build.
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I like that card but I don't think I like it in this deck. I don't feel like it has the spare mana for such an expensive tutor. I just can't see myself casting it without la flash enabler out.
Don't know if you have the on color fetches but they would go far with this deck. Jace, The Mindsculptor with them and the SDT aren't horrible digging.
If you were going for more of a "pillow fort then I win", I think the win needs to be more explosive. In your colors you have access to the best mana producing combos in the game. I would personally try to work in Grim Monolith, Basalt Monolith, Mana Crypt, Rings of Brighthearth, Power Artifact, and Fabricate. Muddle helps transmute to a counter if needed or Power \ Grim. The others are to accelerate into an infinite mana top situation. Rings and Basalt, produce infinite mana, spin top + rings it, draw your deck. Drawing into what, I have no idea.
If you are going to pure pillow type of build, look at cards like Moat, Sigil of the Empty Throne, Words of Wind, or Ancestral Knowledge. Ancestral Knowledge seems bonkers with Hanna. Solitary Confinement? Late game just let it die and bring it back.
On the fetches - I'm personally opposed to the off-color fetches and don't own a flooded strand. Rings is pretty dead in this deck outside of if I add the monoliths for the combo.
Moat is out of my current budget.
I'm currently testing Sigil of the Empty Throne.
Words of Wind seems slow. Especially since they get to pick what they put back. Granted if including the monoliths and ring this would be a good finisher. Not a huge fan of ancestral knowledge though I do understand why its good. Snapcaster would be decent and I do have a few... Hmmm what to cut
Didn't notice azn_cbc_1992's question. Usually those cards are worse for my opponents than me. They don't really see play in my meta. I would likely counter them. Assuming they resolved. I could probably remove them easily enough. And I have copy enchantment in the list.
@lep I'm not disagreeing with their strength, it just feels like cheating to me. And for ancestral, I just don't like the thought of losing cards even if it really is card advantage
Oh yeah. That is a thing. Still without the fetches (again not going in due to budget and flavor). It doesn't seem as strong. I would probably recommend it to someone without those two hang ups though
The thing with Sensei's is I can do it whenever and if there's a counterspell up top I can grab it, I can mystical or enlightened and get it immediately, or I can terminus on someone else's turn
It actually substitutes for the fetches as it shuffles your library when it hits grave. Sam also suggested Attonement which is pretty good but I am not fully behind it.
Have you done any testing with sigil of the empty throne? I've found it's just the kind of finisher my Hanna was craving, albeit your list is clearly more competitive. I never make a HUGE amount of tokens but by the late game 3-4 is usually enough to wrap it up.
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I've been playing the Bident of Thassa" target="blank">Bident of Thassa in my list since i got one from the prerelease. It's great when you have many propaganda effects. You force youre opponents to kill each other!
Also, Burnished hart" target="blank">Burnished hart has been working wonders for me. It's allready a staple in all my nongreen decks. Combined with Hanna you could filter all your basics in no time.
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Nothing new was brought in as of yet. I have been considering adding swan song though. and as for burnished hart. I like that its a reusable ramp source but I don't think I like it very much. It feels slow, and I don't need too much ramp
Okay. I think sigil is a great wincon. It also takes a great deal of time.
I was browsing my Theros cards again for commander gems and The ordeal of thassa seems like a nice source of CA. You can enchant your opponents criters or Hanna or something. Or use it as a reaaaaally slow wincon..
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I've been playing the Bident of Thassa" target="blank">Bident of Thassa in my list since i got one from the prerelease. It's great when you have many propaganda effects. You force youre opponents to kill each other!
Also, Burnished hart" target="blank">Burnished hart has been working wonders for me. It's allready a staple in all my nongreen decks. Combined with Hanna you could filter all your basics in no time.
In my Hanna deck, I like to lay low and not draw too much attention. Seems that Bident of Thassa would draw hate Hanna's way. However, I am trying the Bident in my Wrexial build, it seems like it can be a great card for EDH.
Good call on the Burnished Hart, may try this one in my Hanna build.
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Havn't read all posts through, but can i suggest Forbid? For me its one of the best counters there is. And being able to recur cards easily with Hanna (and other stuff) it shouldn't be a problem to pay the buyback.
Havn't read all posts through, but can i suggest Forbid? For me its one of the best counters there is. And being able to recur cards easily with Hanna (and other stuff) it shouldn't be a problem to pay the buyback.
Good call and welcome to the conversation. You are exactly right on Forbid, in fact, I have recently included it in my Hanna deck.
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Good call and welcome to the conversation. You are exactly right on Forbid, in fact, I have recently included it in my Hanna deck.
Thank you! I'm messing around with a Hanna deck myself. Right now she sits in my bant-enchantment deck, but I really want to make benefit of her ability to bring back both arties aswell. And U and W are my favorite colors
One thing though, my playgroup kinda hates my enchantment pillowfortress, could there be a way to build Hanna more aggro-based? Voltronstyle on tokengenerating enchantments? With swords and stuff...
Thank you! I'm messing around with a Hanna deck myself. Right now she sits in my bant-enchantment deck, but I really want to make benefit of her ability to bring back both arties aswell. And U and W are my favorite colors
One thing though, my playgroup kinda hates my enchantment pillowfortress, could there be a way to build Hanna more aggro-based? Voltronstyle on tokengenerating enchantments? With swords and stuff...
My Hanna build is centered around Iron Maiden with a pillow fort subtheme... no where near voltron or tokens... but I am certain you could probably do something like this, here are some recommendations...
Yeah, Ajani's Chosen is way too vulnerable... However, I will be giving Ring of Three Wishes a "go" in my build.
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EDH DECKLISTS
RGWUril, the Miststalker WBRKaalia of the Vast Sunforger WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUGDerevi, Empyrial TacticianWUBRGSliver Queen EDH
UB Wrexial, the Risen DeepWU Hanna, Ship's NavigatorWGSigarda, Host of Herons EnchantressWULavinia, of the Tenth
RRPurphoros, God of the ForgeBBChainer, Dementia MasterWWEight-and-a-Half TailsUUMuzzio, Visionary ArchitectGGJolrael, Empress of Beasts
BGVhati il-DalRWTajic, Blade of the LegionUBRZurgo HelmsmasherUBDaxos the ReturnedWBKarlov of the Ghost CouncilWUBruna, Light of Alabaster
RWAurelia Angel Tribal URJhoira Chaos Deck UGVorel +1 Counters BRGProssh Tokens
UBRGwendlyn Discard EDH URG Surrak Dragonclaw UBLazav Mill EDH WUBrago Flicker EDH Deck
I write EDH articles on EDHREC and MTGCasualPlay. I hope you like them!
EDH DECKLISTS
RGWUril, the Miststalker WBRKaalia of the Vast Sunforger WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUGDerevi, Empyrial TacticianWUBRGSliver Queen EDH
UB Wrexial, the Risen DeepWU Hanna, Ship's NavigatorWGSigarda, Host of Herons EnchantressWULavinia, of the Tenth
RRPurphoros, God of the ForgeBBChainer, Dementia MasterWWEight-and-a-Half TailsUUMuzzio, Visionary ArchitectGGJolrael, Empress of Beasts
BGVhati il-DalRWTajic, Blade of the LegionUBRZurgo HelmsmasherUBDaxos the ReturnedWBKarlov of the Ghost CouncilWUBruna, Light of Alabaster
RWAurelia Angel Tribal URJhoira Chaos Deck UGVorel +1 Counters BRGProssh Tokens
UBRGwendlyn Discard EDH URG Surrak Dragonclaw UBLazav Mill EDH WUBrago Flicker EDH Deck
Don't know if you have the on color fetches but they would go far with this deck. Jace, The Mindsculptor with them and the SDT aren't horrible digging.
If you were going for more of a "pillow fort then I win", I think the win needs to be more explosive. In your colors you have access to the best mana producing combos in the game. I would personally try to work in Grim Monolith, Basalt Monolith, Mana Crypt, Rings of Brighthearth, Power Artifact, and Fabricate. Muddle helps transmute to a counter if needed or Power \ Grim. The others are to accelerate into an infinite mana top situation. Rings and Basalt, produce infinite mana, spin top + rings it, draw your deck. Drawing into what, I have no idea.
If you are going to pure pillow type of build, look at cards like Moat, Sigil of the Empty Throne, Words of Wind, or Ancestral Knowledge. Ancestral Knowledge seems bonkers with Hanna. Solitary Confinement? Late game just let it die and bring it back.
High Market for Rector.
Snapcaster Mage!
Moat is out of my current budget.
I'm currently testing Sigil of the Empty Throne.
Words of Wind seems slow. Especially since they get to pick what they put back. Granted if including the monoliths and ring this would be a good finisher. Not a huge fan of ancestral knowledge though I do understand why its good. Snapcaster would be decent and I do have a few... Hmmm what to cut
Words of Wind is just a pet card I used in enchantress.. Works great with the rocks, thats about it unless you can get some sort of massive draw.
Why not Ancestral Knowledge? Digging 10 deep with the ability to dump junk and recurrable. It lets you dig to better cards then let it die and repeat.
@lep I'm not disagreeing with their strength, it just feels like cheating to me. And for ancestral, I just don't like the thought of losing cards even if it really is card advantage
-Sam
The thing with Sensei's is I can do it whenever and if there's a counterspell up top I can grab it, I can mystical or enlightened and get it immediately, or I can terminus on someone else's turn
I write EDH articles on EDHREC and MTGCasualPlay. I hope you like them!
EDH DECKLISTS
RGWUril, the Miststalker WBRKaalia of the Vast Sunforger WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUGDerevi, Empyrial TacticianWUBRGSliver Queen EDH
UB Wrexial, the Risen DeepWU Hanna, Ship's NavigatorWGSigarda, Host of Herons EnchantressWULavinia, of the Tenth
RRPurphoros, God of the ForgeBBChainer, Dementia MasterWWEight-and-a-Half TailsUUMuzzio, Visionary ArchitectGGJolrael, Empress of Beasts
BGVhati il-DalRWTajic, Blade of the LegionUBRZurgo HelmsmasherUBDaxos the ReturnedWBKarlov of the Ghost CouncilWUBruna, Light of Alabaster
RWAurelia Angel Tribal URJhoira Chaos Deck UGVorel +1 Counters BRGProssh Tokens
UBRGwendlyn Discard EDH URG Surrak Dragonclaw UBLazav Mill EDH WUBrago Flicker EDH Deck
WGSaffi EriksdotterGW
UBGThe MimeoplasmGBU
I've been playing the Bident of Thassa" target="blank">Bident of Thassa in my list since i got one from the prerelease. It's great when you have many propaganda effects. You force youre opponents to kill each other!
Also, Burnished hart" target="blank">Burnished hart has been working wonders for me. It's allready a staple in all my nongreen decks. Combined with Hanna you could filter all your basics in no time.
“I once had an entire race killed just to listen to the rattling of their dried bones as I waded through them.”
—Volrath
Cards that I have that I currently want to test are:
Scroll Rack
Mana Crypt
Sigil of the Empty Throne
I was browsing my Theros cards again for commander gems and The ordeal of thassa seems like a nice source of CA. You can enchant your opponents criters or Hanna or something. Or use it as a reaaaaally slow wincon..
“I once had an entire race killed just to listen to the rattling of their dried bones as I waded through them.”
—Volrath
In my Hanna deck, I like to lay low and not draw too much attention. Seems that Bident of Thassa would draw hate Hanna's way. However, I am trying the Bident in my Wrexial build, it seems like it can be a great card for EDH.
Good call on the Burnished Hart, may try this one in my Hanna build.
I write EDH articles on EDHREC and MTGCasualPlay. I hope you like them!
EDH DECKLISTS
RGWUril, the Miststalker WBRKaalia of the Vast Sunforger WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUGDerevi, Empyrial TacticianWUBRGSliver Queen EDH
UB Wrexial, the Risen DeepWU Hanna, Ship's NavigatorWGSigarda, Host of Herons EnchantressWULavinia, of the Tenth
RRPurphoros, God of the ForgeBBChainer, Dementia MasterWWEight-and-a-Half TailsUUMuzzio, Visionary ArchitectGGJolrael, Empress of Beasts
BGVhati il-DalRWTajic, Blade of the LegionUBRZurgo HelmsmasherUBDaxos the ReturnedWBKarlov of the Ghost CouncilWUBruna, Light of Alabaster
RWAurelia Angel Tribal URJhoira Chaos Deck UGVorel +1 Counters BRGProssh Tokens
UBRGwendlyn Discard EDH URG Surrak Dragonclaw UBLazav Mill EDH WUBrago Flicker EDH Deck
Good call and welcome to the conversation. You are exactly right on Forbid, in fact, I have recently included it in my Hanna deck.
I write EDH articles on EDHREC and MTGCasualPlay. I hope you like them!
EDH DECKLISTS
RGWUril, the Miststalker WBRKaalia of the Vast Sunforger WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUGDerevi, Empyrial TacticianWUBRGSliver Queen EDH
UB Wrexial, the Risen DeepWU Hanna, Ship's NavigatorWGSigarda, Host of Herons EnchantressWULavinia, of the Tenth
RRPurphoros, God of the ForgeBBChainer, Dementia MasterWWEight-and-a-Half TailsUUMuzzio, Visionary ArchitectGGJolrael, Empress of Beasts
BGVhati il-DalRWTajic, Blade of the LegionUBRZurgo HelmsmasherUBDaxos the ReturnedWBKarlov of the Ghost CouncilWUBruna, Light of Alabaster
RWAurelia Angel Tribal URJhoira Chaos Deck UGVorel +1 Counters BRGProssh Tokens
UBRGwendlyn Discard EDH URG Surrak Dragonclaw UBLazav Mill EDH WUBrago Flicker EDH Deck
Thank you! I'm messing around with a Hanna deck myself. Right now she sits in my bant-enchantment deck, but I really want to make benefit of her ability to bring back both arties aswell. And U and W are my favorite colors
One thing though, my playgroup kinda hates my enchantment pillowfortress, could there be a way to build Hanna more aggro-based? Voltronstyle on tokengenerating enchantments? With swords and stuff...
My Hanna build is centered around Iron Maiden with a pillow fort subtheme... no where near voltron or tokens... but I am certain you could probably do something like this, here are some recommendations...
I write EDH articles on EDHREC and MTGCasualPlay. I hope you like them!
EDH DECKLISTS
RGWUril, the Miststalker WBRKaalia of the Vast Sunforger WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUGDerevi, Empyrial TacticianWUBRGSliver Queen EDH
UB Wrexial, the Risen DeepWU Hanna, Ship's NavigatorWGSigarda, Host of Herons EnchantressWULavinia, of the Tenth
RRPurphoros, God of the ForgeBBChainer, Dementia MasterWWEight-and-a-Half TailsUUMuzzio, Visionary ArchitectGGJolrael, Empress of Beasts
BGVhati il-DalRWTajic, Blade of the LegionUBRZurgo HelmsmasherUBDaxos the ReturnedWBKarlov of the Ghost CouncilWUBruna, Light of Alabaster
RWAurelia Angel Tribal URJhoira Chaos Deck UGVorel +1 Counters BRGProssh Tokens
UBRGwendlyn Discard EDH URG Surrak Dragonclaw UBLazav Mill EDH WUBrago Flicker EDH Deck