Quote from Vash9177Love your list seems really fun to play.
How has Voice of Resurgence been for you? Also have you looked into Ivy Lane Denizen? He seems like he could be useful for pumping Marath.
Quote from VolangoI agree that Launch the Fleet is not that amazing since you already need a decent board position for it to do anything.
Iroas could be really good since it makes it impossible to block profitably against you and if you combine him with Heliod or Ajani Goldmane you can attack with all you got every turn because it doesn't make any difference (you neither lose creatures nor will you be unable to block) squeezing through every possible point of damage.
Quote from zlliM »Great list! Seems very fun to play with. The synergies of the deck are amazing.
I would run Grand Abolisher instead of Vexing Shusher, it can shut down any kind of prevention and nasty things incoming in your turn such as removals/wraths etc...
Quote from zlliM »Understood. In my group there's a lot of damage prevention and removals being used on my turns, so it fits better here.
Quote from XeroxedFool »I run kiki in my naya build and he is pretty excellent. He can make card advantage with the right ETB guys out and he is always a big threat. I personally find 'fair' kiking to be pretty fun as well. He is one of the main reasons I want red in my GWx deck.
Quote from Airithne »Would you consider Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to be worth a spot, assuming that you have no intention of abusing any of his potential combos?
Quote from herbalT »I've been wondering this myself. I'm currently in the process of building Marath, and it will likely end up looking pretty similar to your list. Sans infinite combos, there's not a ton of stuff here that is incredible in combination with Kiki, but the stuff that does work well is pretty damn good (Avenger, Witness, Craterhoof, and Sun Titan are all great targets, and I will likely run Acidic Slime; and an extra Wood Elves, Harmonic Sliver, or Pridemage can be useful..unfortunately I don't have a Voice of Resurgence, as that seems like it could be a decent target, as well). I don't have my deck finished yet, so most of my theory-crafting is based on my Riku deck, which has a lot more etb guys. IIRC, I only run one infinite combo with him in that deck; and I very rarely even go for it. And yet, I still always love drawing him (but again, that deck runs way more etb creatures). Tooth and Nail for Kiki + Craterhoof (or Avenger if you already have him) is always a good time, but I'm already having trouble fitting in everything I would like (which is almost always the case with every edh deck I build), so I'm having to think real hard about whether he is worth it/necessary. Almost seems a shame not to run him in a deck that has access to him, but you pose a good question.
Quote from herbalT »Also, have you tried Grafted Exoskeleton? I'm tempted to give it a try, especially since I'll have a few more ways to build up lots of counters on Marath (Forgotten Ancient, Opal Palace, Ajani Goldmane since I have no Mentor of Heroes) in order to take off 10 counters and nuke people out with poison damage (or supplement a previous or upcoming Inkmoth strike). Also makes me want to run Triskelion and/or Triskelavus, but idk if that's getting too "cute."
Well, imma go sort through this fat stack of cards again. I've got like 5 slots left in my deck and about 50 cards I'd like to play, lol.